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  • wtf
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-22-08
    • 12983

    #1
    boxer makes huge wager on self - WINS
    you got to love this, he also chose what round he was going to get the KO

    in the previous round the ref told them to stop dancing and start fighting!


    David Haye's confession that he placed a bet on himself to knock out Audley Harrison in the third round is to be probed by the British Boxing Board of Control.
  • JuicedUp
    SBR MVP
    • 01-20-10
    • 3396

    #2
    He is a poster here at sbr. Can't say his name but he is a huge degen.
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    • SoCalFisher
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-22-09
      • 769

      #3
      Originally posted by JuicedUp
      He is a poster here at sbr. Can't say his name but he is a huge degen.
      Cant? or wont?

      scared? or joking?

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      • Giuvara
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 03-15-10
        • 873

        #4
        That's the guy that challenged the Klitschkos. Wanna see him wager on his win in that one also.
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        • Flexin
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-09-10
          • 969

          #5
          I don't feel it should be a problem unless you bet against yourself.

          James
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          • pico
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 04-05-07
            • 27321

            #6
            i think if you bet on yourself to win, it is okay
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            • wtf
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-22-08
              • 12983

              #7
              very fishy the circumstances, knowing what round to get the knock out?

              and the previous round the ref complains about their lack of boxing !!
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              • rem sleep
                SBR MVP
                • 10-04-10
                • 1238

                #8
                It should be illegal for a boxer to bet on the round the fight will end in. I'm really suprised that it isn't.
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #9
                  That whole fight was a con from start to finish!
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                  • Ian
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-09-09
                    • 6071

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JuicedUp
                    He is a poster here at sbr. Can't say his name but he is a huge degen.
                    Yeah, I hear David Haye is always begging for points in the Player's Talk forum.
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                    • MadTiger
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-19-09
                      • 2724

                      #11
                      Betting on a straight win = not a problem. Hell, if you don't believe in yourself, who will?

                      Any bets predicting the nature of the win = problem.

                      Betting on yourself to lose = serious problem.
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                      • sundin4prez
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-09-10
                        • 1970

                        #12
                        hahahahah love it.....

                        betting on himself is one thing but the round?.... seems a bit fishy
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                        • SBR_John
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-12-05
                          • 16471

                          #13
                          Sounds like he was fighting a complete stiff to name round 3 and the article goes on to say his opponet only landed one punvh the entire fight. Heck JJ Gold could do better than that.
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                          • Vaughany
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #14
                            Everybody knew it was a huge mismatch. Fraudley just stood there like a sitting duck with no head movement or footwork. That's not to say that he did it on purpose or anything, it's jus that his boxing is no way near David Haye's level! Not surprised that Haye was confident he would knock him out whenever he wanted. I guess he thought he should give the crowd at least two rounds to watch even tho nothing happened!
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                            • jackpot269
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-24-07
                              • 12842

                              #15
                              Originally posted by wtf
                              you got to love this, he also chose what round he was going to get the KO

                              in the previous round the ref told them to stop dancing and start fighting!


                              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ing-claim.html
                              The ref had the fight ending in an earlier round !!!!!!!!
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                              • MadTiger
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-19-09
                                • 2724

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Vaughany
                                Everybody knew it was a huge mismatch. Fraudley just stood there like a sitting duck with no head movement or footwork.
                                "Fraudley"

                                Hahahaha!
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                                • statnerds
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-23-09
                                  • 4047

                                  #17
                                  ummmm....

                                  Why didn't he just have someone lay the bets for him? Then there is no article, then there is no one like me thinking if you can big the round, and the payoff is high enough, and you get your opponent on board...
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                                  • Vrakas
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 02-27-10
                                    • 627

                                    #18
                                    nice to know when to end a fight so you can make more money but its not realy fair to be able to bet on yourself.
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                                    • whatsgood5
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 10-13-09
                                      • 15359

                                      #19
                                      Well that's incredibly sketchy
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                                      • dbnmln
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 10-30-07
                                        • 804

                                        #20
                                        I'm gonna bet $100 bucks I take a $hit in under 5 mins at -160.
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                                        • Chairib
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 03-08-10
                                          • 917

                                          #21
                                          Tito Ortiz pretty much did the same thing before his first fight with Ken Shamrock. I couldn't believe some books had him listed as the underdog in that fight.
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                                          • wtf
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 08-22-08
                                            • 12983

                                            #22
                                            wonder what the odds were on him winning by KO in the 3rd, might have been nice payday for him and his entourage
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                                            • Vaughany
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 03-07-10
                                              • 45563

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by wtf
                                              wonder what the odds were on him winning by KO in the 3rd, might have been nice payday for him and his entourage
                                              The odds ranged from 4/1 to 6/1. I actually contemplated puttin a small play on it earlier in the day as Paul Semtex Daley had put as his status that he'd put a bet on Harrison to win at 4/1. About 3 people responded with comments sayin theyd put big money on Haye by TKO/KO Rnd 3 at 6/1! Wish I'd followed them now!
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                                              • ehp6737
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-11-08
                                                • 4185

                                                #24
                                                He predicted in an interview days before that he would win in the 3rd round. so it's not like there was something fishy going on. As long as he didnt bet against himself, who cares
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                                                • adlai
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 03-11-10
                                                  • 778

                                                  #25
                                                  it was one of the worst fights i've ever watched...
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                                                  • Vaughany
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                    • 45563

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Chairib
                                                    Tito Ortiz pretty much did the same thing before his first fight with Ken Shamrock. I couldn't believe some books had him listed as the underdog in that fight.
                                                    haha He bet against himself to submit from strikes in Rnd 4?!!
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                                                    • milwaukee mike
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 08-22-07
                                                      • 26914

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ehp6737
                                                      He predicted in an interview days before that he would win in the 3rd round. so it's not like there was something fishy going on. As long as he didnt bet against himself, who cares
                                                      i think if you bet on him to win by ko in the 2nd round you might care that he sandbagged it until the 3rd
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                                                      • dodger33
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-14-09
                                                        • 3962

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by MadTiger
                                                        Betting on a straight win = not a problem. Hell, if you don't believe in yourself, who will? Any bets predicting the nature of the win = problem. Betting on yourself to lose = serious problem.
                                                        I agree. Hell I think all fighters should have their purses wagered on themselves and if they lose they get nothing.
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                                                        • Flexin
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 10-09-10
                                                          • 969

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MadTiger
                                                          Betting on a straight win = not a problem. Hell, if you don't believe in yourself, who will? Any bets predicting the nature of the win = problem. Betting on yourself to lose = serious problem.
                                                          Picking the round is only bad if the other fighter is in on it. I know thats hard to prove at times but other then that its making it hard on yourself. The fight can be stopped with and head butt. If your trying to carry the fighter to your round you could get caught. You could get excited and not go to the natural corner causing the ref to start the count late giving the fighter a chance to get back up. Its hard to do.

                                                          Now a ref had the ability to stop the fight at anytime. A ref picking a round can be bad. If a fighter is dropped and gets up to beat the count but is still shaky a ref will sometimes stop the fight to save that fighter. But if the ref does this and has that fighter to lose that round then it looks bad.

                                                          When Roy Jones Jr was dq'd fighting Montell Griffin there was a problem after the fight. I can't remember if it was after the fight or before the rematch but what I heard was that Montell insulted Roys mother. Roy was pissed and told someone on his team to put everything they had on the fight ending in the first round or maybe it was in less then two. He was pissed. Roy knocked Montell out in the first round. They went 9 rounds in the first fight.

                                                          I don't see an issue as long as someone doesn't bet against them self. Some fighters are not getting much of a payday so this gives them a way to get paid.

                                                          James
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                                                          • notsosharp
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 10-25-10
                                                            • 799

                                                            #30
                                                            Why would you do this if you are already making 6 million? what an idiot.
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                                                            • sharpcat
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 12-19-09
                                                              • 4516

                                                              #31
                                                              Would have been bitter sweet if his opponent bet on himself getting knocked out in the 2nd round and took a dive before the 3rd round.
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                                                              • jin2daj
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 11-01-09
                                                                • 816

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by sharpcat
                                                                Would have been bitter sweet if his opponent bet on himself getting knocked out in the 2nd round and took a dive before the 3rd round.
                                                                hahaha this would be funny
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                                                                • wtf
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 08-22-08
                                                                  • 12983

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I find this whole thing totally unethical

                                                                  this is a very slippery slope this will lead too and absolute collusion between fighters is inevitable , or probably happening now
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                                                                  • Flexin
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 10-09-10
                                                                    • 969

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by wtf
                                                                    I find this whole thing totally unethical

                                                                    this is a very slippery slope this will lead too and absolute collusion between fighters is inevitable , or probably happening now
                                                                    It can lead to problems but I think if rules are set then it could go ok. They should have to register the bet with the boxing commission and only be able to bet on them self or the round they will win in. (the last one might be questionable. I almost put the over under but that would allow a fighter who though he was going to win in under X number of rounds that is now losing to stay down if they get dropped near that number. That could be bad.

                                                                    A straight be saying I will win against my opponent should not be an issue.

                                                                    James
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