The lies about Bet Royal never stop

**BAUS** · 02-12-06, 11:43 PM

I didn't get paid from PTS. I didn't ask for help because you just would have arranged for a bailout deal thru Royal. Big deal. I could get a bailout thru Royal myself.

Anyone who has been around these forum more than 2 weeks can see right thru your act Raiders. Get a real job.

BAUS

**raiders72001** · 02-13-06, 12:29 AM

Baus- $1000 says you can't get a bailout through Royal on your own. You are the biggest problem poster on this board with books and I mean that. You play at every shit book out there and then cry to the forums when you need help. You also try to get 3 and 4 bailouts every time a book goes under so you clean up big time. There's lots of scammers on the forums but you are one of the biggest.

**raiders72001** · 02-13-06, 12:44 AM

Baus

I didn't get paid from PTS. I didn't ask for help because you just would have arranged for a bailout deal thru Royal. Big deal. I could get a bailout thru Royal myself.

I just want to show how Baus is full of shit.

Baus says he can get a bailout from Royal on his own but doesn't want it. This makes a lot of sense. He's owed 6 dimes but doesn't care about it so he won't take a bailout.

Just when you think that you've seen the dumbest post on this forum Baus trumps it. It'll be tough for him to top this one but I'm sure he'll try.

**BAUS** · 02-13-06, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by raiders72001

You also try to get 3 and 4 bailouts every time a book goes under so you clean up big time. There's lots of scammers on the forums but you are one of the biggest.

LMFAO!!

I'm still waiting for my 1st ever bailout. Period.

Quit trying to deflect attention from yourself and the fact that you have promoted failed books, and currently tout other shit books.

BAUS

**BAUS** · 02-13-06, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Baus

I just want to show how Baus is full of shit.

Baus says he can get a bailout from Royal on his own but doesn't want it. This makes a lot of sense. He's owed 6 dimes but doesn't care about it so he won't take a bailout.

Just when you think that you've seen the dumbest post on this forum Baus trumps it. It'll be tough for him to top this one but I'm sure he'll try.

LMFAO!!! The amount was not 6 dimes. You don't even have your facts straight.

Accepting a bailout offer from Royal in June/July 2005 would have been a poor business decision on my part. They were slow-paying people 5-7 days at the time. This was also around the time when they were offering people 50% and 100% bonuses to cancel withdrawal requests.

Get a real job and stop touting shit books. It's ironic that your site is called toutfreezone when you are, in fact, one of the biggest touts on these forums.

Why don't you get back in bed with AK tonight? Your side of the bed is getting cold.

BAUS

**raiders72001** · 02-13-06, 01:10 AM

Baus- Tell me the reason why you are playing at BetonStars? Also tell me why you would turn down a bailout and eat 6 dimes?

**raiders72001** · 02-13-06, 01:17 AM

I'm going to repeat this again. For almost every poster here at SBR, if you want to win money you must play at many books I promote. This is why I recommend 9 books besides the top 5. If guys here just want to have some fun and be 100% secure with no slow pays then just play at Pinny and CRIS.

There are a couple of pro's here that only need the top 15 - 20 books but these guys are limit bettors that aren't scalpers.

**BAUS** · 02-13-06, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Baus- Tell me the reason why you are playing at BetonStars? Also tell me why you would turn down a bailout and eat 6 dimes?

I play at Betonstars because I heard they were solid.

If CRIS offered me a bailout, I would have taken it. Royal, no. You were only getting players bailed out into Royal, who at the time was cold calling and offering 30% bonuses during baseball season. Hmm, not a good sign...

If you are such an offshore superhero, get me a bailout at a A, B, or even C rated book.

And again, it wasn't 6 dimes.

BAUS

**raiders72001** · 02-13-06, 01:48 AM

You posted 6 Dimes. I don't care how much it is but are you lying again? It makes no sense to get stiffed rather than take a bailout.

I don't care what you say and I will never even try to get a bailout for someone like you. SBR and TOW are much better at it so go to them.

I'll help anyone with a book I promote if they ask for it. Also if a book is having trouble I will post what's going on and see if a guy needs help.

**BAUS** · 02-13-06, 02:03 AM

I never posted 6 dimes. I've never mentioned on the boards how much it was.

What makes no sense is to potentially get stiffed twice. Why should I send X number of dimes to a struggling book like Royal, with a huge rollover, and have my funds tied up there for 2-4 months?

When you knew PTS was going down, you continued to shill for them because you had some funds of your own there and you wanted to get paid first. So don't come here and pretend you are Mr Honesty.

Good night Raiders. Give AK a good night kiss before you nestle up beside him in your dirty tout bed.

BAUS

**tacomax** · 02-13-06, 02:26 AM

Originally posted by BAUS

Get a real job and stop touting shit books. It's ironic that your site is called toutfreezone when you are, in fact, one of the biggest touts on these forums.

Let's be fair. Raiders doesn't gain financially from shilling for BetRoyal - he gets certain "benefits" from his favourite BetRoyal boy on a regular basis.

**raiders72001** · 02-13-06, 03:02 AM

Baus

What makes no sense is to potentially get stiffed twice. Why should I send X number of dimes to a struggling book like Royal, with a huge rollover, and have my funds tied up there for 2-4 months?

There was no deposit required for the people I bailed out. Their account was just taken over. You missed out on that one.

**raiders72001** · 02-13-06, 03:20 AM

Baus- I'm not sure why you keep bringing AK up. I've never had any financial dealings with AK.

Do you want to make a bet that you posted what PTS owed you? Posts from guys like you are worth zero. You will never back up a statement that you make with money.

**Louie Diamond** · 02-13-06, 04:53 AM

Raiders,
Why don't you think Tej will close up shop and open up again under another name?

**SBR_John** · 02-13-06, 05:37 AM

I'm trying to give you some good advice Raiders. When you shill for bottom feeder books you end up with no credibility. Players know you are a dangerous shill willing to send them to serial scammer Tej for your own finacial gain.

You could just as easily taken the high road and aligned yourself with Pinnacle, Olympic and CRIS although they are not in the paid shill business. Instead you align yourself with Royal and RichCoast and PlaytheScore. Don't you see the difference or is your short term greed uncontrolable?

**raiders72001** · 02-13-06, 08:42 AM

John- You've touted a new book in BetPanAm. You went to their Super Bowl party and collected some huge fees from them. When they went under you said too bad to the players and didn't help any because it wasn't worth any money to you.

If I advertise a book and it goes under I do something about it whether I profit or not. I will continue to do this in the future and here's some advice to you. Don't be afraid to help when a book goes under.

It's easy to help on an individual basis as you do and it's great pub. When you help a class action it's not profitable because it's time consuming. Don't let the mighty dollar make your decisions.

**raiders72001** · 02-13-06, 09:23 AM

I'm honest about BetRoyal. I've said that there can be slow pays but they will pay. Is there anything wrong with this statement?

There's a huge forum in Europe that's bigger than the RX ,although the RX says otherwise, that has BetRoyal as an advertiser.

I said that I would not play at PanAM. Sometimes you're right and sometimes you are wrong. If you are wrong do something about it.

**SBR_John** · 02-13-06, 12:34 PM

OK. I went to Panama to make sure all SBR players were paid and thats why you never heard of any SBR referred players that were stiffed by PanAm or any other book. BTW, SBR was the first site to inform the world that PanAm was in trouble(search the Rx archives for proof). They were on our Black List while your Tej brothern were still promoting them. So when we found out there was a problem we let everyone know. Let me ask you a question since for some unknown reason you like to mix past history with present discussions; Were you the first person to say RichCoast was in trouble??? Or did you deny they were in trouble? Actually, you denied it to the bitter end correct?

The bottomline is you are not promoting stable books. You are shilling for ANY book that will pay you. You will gladly lead players to slaughter for a mere $200 a month. Raiders, you are either too greedy or you have no business sense. Because recommending Royal tells players all they need to know about you.

But why do you bring up something that happened 3 years ago?

**BAUS** · 02-13-06, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Baus There was no deposit required for the people I bailed out. Their account was just taken over. You missed out on that one.

If that's the case, then there was no chance Royal would have bailed me out for the amount I lost at PTS. No chance.

There would have been no point in them "taking over my account". I already had an account at Royal, so they wouldn't be acquiring a new customer.

BAUS

**pier0** · 02-13-06, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

I'm honest about BetRoyal. I've said that there can be slow pays but they will pay. Is there anything wrong with this statement?

There's a huge forum in Europe that's bigger than the RX ,although the RX says otherwise, that has BetRoyal as an advertiser.

I said that I would not play at PanAM. Sometimes you're right and sometimes you are wrong. If you are wrong do something about it.

You forgot to say that in the huge European forum, larger than TheRX (no it's not), players have had problems, and the forum owner didn't help much.

You will soon find out that European forum players don't care if the books will pay at some point. They want their money when they ask for it, not after two months.

**Louie Diamond** · 02-13-06, 01:18 PM

Raiders,
Why don't you think Tej will close up shop and open up again under another name?

**raiders72001** · 02-13-06, 01:42 PM

Pier- You are correct in that the RX is now bigger. They are both huge along with one from Asia.

You know more about European players than I do but why do Europeans put up with crap CS in Europe? CS is much better in CR and Curacao.

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John- I told players to get their money out of RCS. It's on my site. The problem I had with you is blowing the whistle without the facts.

You keep posting without checking both sides of the story and doing research when you have something against a TOW book.

**raiders72001** · 02-13-06, 01:45 PM

Lou- It doesn't make sense for Tej to run. Casinos are a different story.

**raiders72001** · 02-13-06, 01:50 PM

John- This is what I wrote

It looks as though RCS is being bought out. Do not deposit any money at this time. Any players needing help should contact me. This is just a warning as payouts went out this morning but let's be cautious.

**raiders72001** · 02-13-06, 01:53 PM

You are shilling for ANY book that will pay you.

You forgot to say that I called Jay and turned him down because I didn't like what they are doing. You still see BetonStars on a lot of smaller sites.

**pier0** · 02-13-06, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

You know more about European players than I do but why do Europeans put up with crap CS in Europe? CS is much better in CR and Curacao.

Maybe if you compare single companies you'll find Caribbean companies that are better than their European counterparts, but overall I don't think there is an area that is paricularly better than the rest of the world for CS...

**Louie Diamond** · 02-13-06, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Lou- It doesn't make sense for Tej to run. Casinos are a different story.

Why doesn't it make sense. And why did it make sense for Luckys and Pyramid sportsbooks?

**Truthteller** · 02-13-06, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Lou- It doesn't make sense for Tej to run. Casinos are a different story.

Score and Pyramid were sportsbooks and he shut them down and ran off with all the players' money.