U guys gotta downgrade this piece of shit book.
I said for months, they have the worse cus. Service in the industry and this proves it 110%.
They should be C- to D+
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U guys gotta downgrade this piece of shit book.
I said for months, they have the worse cus. Service in the industry and this proves it 110%.
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Not a damn chance. Aslong as 5dimes check doesnt bounce when JJ goes to the bank they will remain A+ all the way.Comment -
Paco i hope you're kidding. 5dimes is one of the best books out there. Your money is safe and their lines are as good as they get for american customers.Comment -
I have heard so many bad things about the customer service. I have had nothing but good experiences with them. As far as every other category in rating a book they are setting the bar. Payouts, betting options, good lines, easy depositing etc. I would like to hear one of the upper echelon sbr posters to address the matter. SBR management we are waiting.Comment -
I would be lost without this book, customer service is the least of my concerns.Comment -
Read the link I provided guys.
Tony is a cheat scumbag who isn't willing to pay out the odds he posted.
Don't blame the player for shit odds he put out.
If it lost, he woulda took the $$ with no problem.
If he can't put the right lines out and won't pay the lines he put out, he should be downgraded.
Simple as that. Read the chat in the link provided.Comment -
5dimes is one busy ass book...sure, tony can be a huge asshat and the cust. service could be better, but ill stand by them..especially when the majority of problems we read about are when players take shots at bad lines, past bet and dont know the rules on roll-overs and payouts...
and paco, i whole heartedly agree that they need to get their shit together when it comes to too many bad lines getting posted...its not good and i totally agree... dont know why it happens, but i know that they offer so much more action than most and with more stuff to bet, comes more human error with numbers... i hate that it happens with them, but it is what it is... but cmon guys, notify them when you see a bad line instead of trying to steal from them and the book should get betterComment -
Ray, it happens way too much with them.
And who follows golf so much to know "it's a bad line"
I don't even know a golf player besides Tiger but if i see a player +3000, sure I'd put a few bucks on him. Am I suppose to know thas a bad line?Comment -
paco , do you think people should be allowed to bet into obvious bad lines without any repercussions at all? are you saying that its okay to try and steal from the book because someone made an honest mistake while putting numbers into the system? surely you dont feel this wayComment -
SLOW DOWN everybody!
1st 50/1
top 5 8/1
top10 4/1
What would be the fair odds for top 20?
I don't particulary like Tony as he represents himself on the board but the player clearly identified himself as a shot taker when he refused to answer Tony's question....a 1st grader would know the answer but the original poster "had no idea" yet he is checking the tennis player's twitter account for injury updates
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Stealing is not a good word to use in this situation. The dude placed a legit wager, there system accepted it. How bad was the line? I don't know. I don't keep up with golf but I'm sure they had plenty time to notify him during s long tourney instead of fvcking him on the final day. Woukd it have been considered " a bad line" if it lost?Comment -
you dont follow golf much and dont gamble on it much and thats why i understand why you see this as one sided... however, the guy in question does bet a lot of golf and admitted it and even went into detail about doing research. the guy in question took one humongous shot and another very big shot at the book with his bets... he knows it, the book knows, i know it and everyone who bets on golf like he does, knows it... unfortunately, there are some guys who dont bet it much or any and really dont realize why we know the guy took a shot.Comment -
Ok guys, I've done my drunken ramblings for the night
like i said, I don't know about golf but figured with so many upsets, a +2000 wasn't out of reach but u guys say this guy is a golf Pro bettor, I guess that changes things.
Goodnight boys,
Hold up, last question. Is the Lions to win the Superbowl at +15000 a bad line?
Just wanna make sure before I drop a dime on em
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it doesnt really matter when the bet is checked paco...because they waited until after 3 days of golf, makes 0 difference whatsoever...the guy still bet a bad line.... i explained earlier that books will look at their golf props after 3 days and get an idea of what is going on and what they should get ready to payout...
like i also said, he is lucky the bet was checked after rd.3 and was offered the price the bet should have been...he knew he took a shot at the bad line and really should have kept his mouth shut and thanked tony for not voiding the bet altogether and offering him the price the bet should have been, which is 2/1... he is lucky because if they realized the line was bad after the tournament was over, tony would have simply called him a shot taker and voided the whole thing and he wouldnt have the opportunity to take the 2/1 offer...Comment -
Yep. If you're assuming that this guy is a hardcore golf gambler then you'd think he would've checked out all the odds available. In his posts though he claims that he was only betting golf for fun until football started so who knows. Regardless, for a little rec bettor like me who would only be betting tennis props at 5Dimes anyway, I don't feel comfortable having the onus put on me to know which lines are bad or not when there are so many available on the site. If I established myself over time as a pro tennis prop bettor, sure. But to have my bet taken away from me on the last day of a tournament when my big dog was actually winning the thing only to have Tony treat me like a piece of dirt on top of it just doesn't seem like a risk that's worth it.Comment -
hey pac... than what book do u recommend ???....Comment -
Dozer just responded in the thread. I like his response!!
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It's a good response... But good enough? Not really... You want to solve the problem.. Don't offer the line... reallly simple...
You want to run a steakhouse... Then don't run out of steak and say its the customers fault that he didn't order the Fish...
Crying "shot taking" is Bullsheit... Like Shari Said, Like Paco said... I'm no Prop Pro... But f u you give me the Lions at +15000 and they make the playoffs... Oh wait.. They make the SUPERBOWL... (Tottalllyy Imaginaryyyyy world!!!)
THEN you tell me.. Oops... sorry, we fd up... We'll give u 15-1 at market value before the playoffs started...
You want to offer Props... maybe you should have a monkey behind the computer to watch them roll in... There are lots of Bananas in CR no?Comment -
Tony treats everyone like dirt way before most of you guys have been around
Bottom line is 98% of people love 5 Dimes therefore no downgrade
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It's not so much the "bad line" thing, but the coverup shit.
Erasing records and all that Watergate shit does nothing to build my confidence.
Also, if you are in the right, there is no need for long, drawn-out discussions. Just point to the rule you are invoking, explain your application of it, and be done.
And dock the pay of your data entry person!!!Comment -
well if the aussie books would take usa customers or betfair did that pos scam house five pennies would be way out of biz
but they are milking the illegal american angle to the limit
and jj is there sucking on the tit , nice stand jj you fuking tool, you really are the player advocate NOTComment -
I'm siding with the player, it's shady practice in my opinion to post numerous bad lines (regardless if the player knew it was bad or not) just to change them once things aren't going there way. Again, if the bets lost would the odds have been changed?Comment -
you guys are clowns.... say you bet a shit line and it loses and nobody contacts you because it went unnoticed... what are you going to do??? are you going to call them and say "um, hi guys... i took a shot at a bad line at your book and it lost, can you please void the bet because it was a bad line...thanks"
take a shot at a bad line and regardless of when it gets noticed, if it loses, you deserve to lose...punishment for attempting to steal. books dont post bad lines on purpose and they dont change or void bets unless theres a clear reason to do so... theres way too much competition to pull shit like that.
you have to side with the book here. its pretty obvious that the player is experienced enough to know that he was taking shots... im not a fan of the way Tony talks to people, but i am a fan of the way he handled business in this particular case. the player isnt a pro golf gambler, but he does bet a good amount of golf and unless he is in the 1st grade, his math is good enough to know he was taking advantage of bad lines. gl with it from here on out..ive spoken my mind on the subject...have a good day guys.Comment -
It could if been a bad line but Tony took a free shot at him. If he voided wager earlier everything was going to be ok. Once he knew he was beat he pulled the bad line trick
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This is why people like Tony are and will remain in business until somebody puts an end to this bullshit. Fuk you JJ you lost my respect.
