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  • moses millsap
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-25-05
    • 8289

    #1
    Superbowl Poll : Seattle or Pittsburgh? (ATS)
    Post your pick with some reasoning and the line you got (I know Razz got Pitt -3). I like Seattle, but not sure to what degree until we get closer to gametime. Will be betting them ATS and on the ML, but may only invest 2 units total on this one.

    Seattle's team speed on both sides of the ball is being totally ignored. It will only be amplified on the turf. They led the league in sacks and their front 4 is vastly underrated, I expect them to get to Roethlisberger and force him to make quick reads (Seattle will not sit back on 3rd and longs like the Broncos and let Big Ben dissect them)

    They have the best offensive line in football (the most overlooked aspect by observes, who always focus on the skill positions). I expect them to control the line of scrimmage and do enough running the ball to open up the pass for Hasselbeck, who has been one of the hottest QBs coming in, if not the hottest.

    Everybody's talking about both teams run to the SB. Is it the Seahawks fault they were the #1 seed and got to play two games at home? Sure, the Steelers went on the road and beat these three teams: (a) Cincy with Kitna running the show for practically the entire game, (b) the "best" team in Indy when their schedule throughout the year was incredibly soft and they hadn't played a game w/ any meaning for over a month (Not to mention two perennial playoff chokers in Dungy and Manning), (c) then they roll into Denver and destroy the Broncos (who according to everybody I spoke with were given two monster gifts in the NE game: the pass int call on 4th down and the Bailey fumble that hit the pylon and should've been a touchback, both plays resulting in Denver possession at the NE 1 yard line). Denver hit its peak in the middle-late part of the season and everybody knew Jake was going to make some mistakes, but 4 turnovers, the old Jake the Snake returned and Pitt rolled them VERY impressively. A very impressive run indeed, but not without some caveats.

    Now, let's look at Seattle. Hadn't won a playoff game in a gazillion years, came out very tight and played sloppy and had way too many turnovers against Washington, but let's give the Skins some credit here. Sure, there offense stunk especially with Clinton's nagging shoulder injury, but this defense was on fire and they have one of the top D-coordinators on their sidelines, yet Hasselbeck and company were able to do enough to win WITHOUT their MVP and the MVP of the league in that game. Not to mention that Washington coming in was one of the hottest teams in the league. Then they totally and utterly destroy Carolina. Would having Foster and Goings for Carolina made a difference for Carolina? Sure, but how much? I'm sure they would've been able to do more offensively, but defensively, they got raped by the offensive assault Hasselbeck and Alexander put on them. And this was one of the top 3-5 defenses in the league and they couldn't do anything, unable to pressure Hasselbeck (b/c of the superior play of their O-line) and when they came, Hasselbeck made quick and smart reads. The kid has really developed into a fine QB that is getting no attention.

    Seattle + the points is the play for me. Don't read too much into the line, the favorite in the SB is always going to be favored by 3 points or more minimum. There is no way the books will open it at anything lower, because they know the public will pound the favorite like there is no tomorrow, so there is no reason to. The lowest lined SB was Baltimore -3 over the NYG. In a game of very evenly matched teams, I'll side with the coach who has had success in the big game (both as a HC and OC) with the points. I can see a final along the lines of 24-20, 27-23 either way and will gladly take the Seahawks + whatever the number reaches by gametime.
    20
    Seattle
    0%
    12
    Pittsburgh
    0%
    8

    The poll is expired.

  • tyetye64
    SBR Rookie
    • 01-09-06
    • 19

    #2
    Originally posted by OWNED
    Post your pick with some reasoning and the line you got (I know Razz got Pitt -3). I like Seattle, but not sure to what degree until we get closer to gametime. Will be betting them ATS and on the ML, but may only invest 2 units total on this one.

    Seattle's team speed on both sides of the ball is being totally ignored. It will only be amplified on the turf. They led the league in sacks and their front 4 is vastly underrated, I expect them to get to Roethlisberger and force him to make quick reads (Seattle will not sit back on 3rd and longs like the Broncos and let Big Ben dissect them)

    They have the best offensive line in football (the most overlooked aspect by observes, who always focus on the skill positions). I expect them to control the line of scrimmage and do enough running the ball to open up the pass for Hasselbeck, who has been one of the hottest QBs coming in, if not the hottest.

    Everybody's talking about both teams run to the SB. Is it the Seahawks fault they were the #1 seed and got to play two games at home? Sure, the Steelers went on the road and beat these three teams: (a) Cincy with Kitna running the show for practically the entire game, (b) the "best" team in Indy when their schedule throughout the year was incredibly soft and they hadn't played a game w/ any meaning for over a month (Not to mention two perennial playoff chokers in Dungy and Manning), (c) then they roll into Denver and destroy the Broncos (who according to everybody I spoke with were given two monster gifts in the NE game: the pass int call on 4th down and the Bailey fumble that hit the pylon and should've been a touchback, both plays resulting in Denver possession at the NE 1 yard line). Denver hit its peak in the middle-late part of the season and everybody knew Jake was going to make some mistakes, but 4 turnovers, the old Jake the Snake returned and Pitt rolled them VERY impressively. A very impressive run indeed, but not without some caveats.

    Now, let's look at Seattle. Hadn't won a playoff game in a gazillion years, came out very tight and played sloppy and had way too many turnovers against Washington, but let's give the Skins some credit here. Sure, there offense stunk especially with Clinton's nagging shoulder injury, but this defense was on fire and they have one of the top D-coordinators on their sidelines, yet Hasselbeck and company were able to do enough to win WITHOUT their MVP and the MVP of the league in that game. Not to mention that Washington coming in was one of the hottest teams in the league. Then they totally and utterly destroy Carolina. Would having Foster and Goings for Carolina made a difference for Carolina? Sure, but how much? I'm sure they would've been able to do more offensively, but defensively, they got raped by the offensive assault Hasselbeck and Alexander put on them. And this was one of the top 3-5 defenses in the league and they couldn't do anything, unable to pressure Hasselbeck (b/c of the superior play of their O-line) and when they came, Hasselbeck made quick and smart reads. The kid has really developed into a fine QB that is getting no attention.

    Seattle + the points is the play for me. Don't read too much into the line, the favorite in the SB is always going to be favored by 3 points or more minimum. There is no way the books will open it at anything lower, because they know the public will pound the favorite like there is no tomorrow, so there is no reason to. The lowest lined SB was Baltimore -3 over the NYG. In a game of very evenly matched teams, I'll side with the coach who has had success in the big game (both as a HC and OC) with the points. I can see a final along the lines of 24-20, 27-23 either way and will gladly take the Seahawks + whatever the number reaches by gametime.
    You really explained it all very well....I will and have Seattle with any points...one thing also...Seattle has the quickest 2 linebackers in the NFL....just watch for Tatupo to have another great game.

    Seattle will run against this team and seattle has some quick movers at recievers and experience...watch for Stevens,Jerovicious and Engram to have BIG games.....Hasselback is hotter then HOT.
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    • spanky
      SBR High Roller
      • 09-28-05
      • 134

      #3
      I think steelers win this game by minimum of 10 -14 pts.the nfl does not want a blowout so when steelers get ahead by 14 or more all penalties and replays will go seattles way to keep them in game.they tried to keep carolina in game with flag pickup of blatant block in back on punt return. in denver game called a crack back block on steeler legal chop block negating 1st and goal but steelers scored on same series to pull ahead by 21.
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      • bigboydan
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-10-05
        • 55420

        #4
        i still need to cap this game a little bit more indepth. i'm going to do like i have been doing for many years now. i will wait til all the smoke has cleared surrounding this game. then i will get a better idea what to expect.
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        • spanky
          SBR High Roller
          • 09-28-05
          • 134

          #5
          Iwent back over last 7 steeler games.bears had just beat carolina,tampa bay and greenbay in pretty dominant defensive games.bears went to pitt and were hammered in that game.following week pitt goes to minn who was rolling on 6 game win streak and again totally dominated 18 -3.3rd week go to cleveland who had just came within 3 pts at cinn,manhandled brows in cleve 41-0.4th game and last of reg season spot lions 14-0 lead and come back to win by 14.sfter 3 playoff games i feel they will be almost impossible to beat.
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          • Dark Horse
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-14-05
            • 13764

            #6
            I use three main angles.

            First angle: strong lean towards Steelers (63% and 83% situations)
            Second angle: minor lean towards Steelers, close to even. (playoff record 9-1)
            Third angle: medium lean towards Steelers. (playoff record 8-2)

            The only thing that could make me change sides? Tommy Maddox for Roethlisberger...
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            • spanky
              SBR High Roller
              • 09-28-05
              • 134

              #7
              almost every day i look at these 2 teams i seem to find an edge or favorable stat leaning their way.today looking at road records i found pitt winning 3 away games at teams with 8-8 or better s.d,cinn 1st game against palmer and minn.i could not find a road win for seattle against 8-8 or better.
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              • Dark Horse
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-14-05
                • 13764

                #8
                This is an away game for both teams.
                Steelers on the road: 9-2 ATS
                Seahawks: 3-4-1 ATS.

                The only two over .500 teams the Seahawks met on their journeys were Jacksonville and Washington. For two SU and ATS losses...

                Nobody is battle-tested like the Steelers. The public is confused by Seattle's two strong recent home games. This team is not the same on the road!

                This one's easy.
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                • bama06
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 01-25-06
                  • 280

                  #9
                  1 Vs 6

                  PITT. little run is over on super sunday. a 6th seed favorite over the # 1 seed in nfc by 4 no way!!!!!!!! also take over on a field goal @43.5.
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                  • Illusion
                    Restricted User
                    • 08-09-05
                    • 25166

                    #10
                    This is a great thread, so I'm moving it to the main section.
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                    • Illusion
                      Restricted User
                      • 08-09-05
                      • 25166

                      #11
                      It looks like 2/3 of us like Seattle. Is anybody taking the moneyline?
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                      • datek23
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 01-08-06
                        • 667

                        #12
                        I believe Steelers will win and cover. A lot of attention is being made already by Yahoos Wetzel that nobody has seen a Seattle fan so far in Detroit, It's Pittsburg fans all over the place, and 99% of Detroit fans are all flavoring Pittsburg, it is going to be a tough call on Seattle, Pittsburg has way to much advantages already, especially Bettis being from Detroit, the Fans of Detroit and Pittsburg are going to give Seattle an unwelcome surprise of anger toward them.
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                        • Scorpion
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-04-05
                          • 7797

                          #13
                          Originally posted by OWNED
                          Post your pick with some reasoning and the line you got (I know Razz got Pitt -3). I like Seattle, but not sure to what degree until we get closer to gametime. Will be betting them ATS and on the ML, but may only invest 2 units total on this one.

                          Seattle's team speed on both sides of the ball is being totally ignored. It will only be amplified on the turf. They led the league in sacks and their front 4 is vastly underrated, I expect them to get to Roethlisberger and force him to make quick reads (Seattle will not sit back on 3rd and longs like the Broncos and let Big Ben dissect them)

                          They have the best offensive line in football (the most overlooked aspect by observes, who always focus on the skill positions). I expect them to control the line of scrimmage and do enough running the ball to open up the pass for Hasselbeck, who has been one of the hottest QBs coming in, if not the hottest.

                          Everybody's talking about both teams run to the SB. Is it the Seahawks fault they were the #1 seed and got to play two games at home? Sure, the Steelers went on the road and beat these three teams: (a) Cincy with Kitna running the show for practically the entire game, (b) the "best" team in Indy when their schedule throughout the year was incredibly soft and they hadn't played a game w/ any meaning for over a month (Not to mention two perennial playoff chokers in Dungy and Manning), (c) then they roll into Denver and destroy the Broncos (who according to everybody I spoke with were given two monster gifts in the NE game: the pass int call on 4th down and the Bailey fumble that hit the pylon and should've been a touchback, both plays resulting in Denver possession at the NE 1 yard line). Denver hit its peak in the middle-late part of the season and everybody knew Jake was going to make some mistakes, but 4 turnovers, the old Jake the Snake returned and Pitt rolled them VERY impressively. A very impressive run indeed, but not without some caveats.

                          Now, let's look at Seattle. Hadn't won a playoff game in a gazillion years, came out very tight and played sloppy and had way too many turnovers against Washington, but let's give the Skins some credit here. Sure, there offense stunk especially with Clinton's nagging shoulder injury, but this defense was on fire and they have one of the top D-coordinators on their sidelines, yet Hasselbeck and company were able to do enough to win WITHOUT their MVP and the MVP of the league in that game. Not to mention that Washington coming in was one of the hottest teams in the league. Then they totally and utterly destroy Carolina. Would having Foster and Goings for Carolina made a difference for Carolina? Sure, but how much? I'm sure they would've been able to do more offensively, but defensively, they got raped by the offensive assault Hasselbeck and Alexander put on them. And this was one of the top 3-5 defenses in the league and they couldn't do anything, unable to pressure Hasselbeck (b/c of the superior play of their O-line) and when they came, Hasselbeck made quick and smart reads. The kid has really developed into a fine QB that is getting no attention.

                          Seattle + the points is the play for me. Don't read too much into the line, the favorite in the SB is always going to be favored by 3 points or more minimum. There is no way the books will open it at anything lower, because they know the public will pound the favorite like there is no tomorrow, so there is no reason to. The lowest lined SB was Baltimore -3 over the NYG. In a game of very evenly matched teams, I'll side with the coach who has had success in the big game (both as a HC and OC) with the points. I can see a final along the lines of 24-20, 27-23 either way and will gladly take the Seahawks + whatever the number reaches by gametime.
                          THATS THE MISTAKE SQUARES LIKE YOU MAKE. THEY LOOK AT STATS.

                          YOU CAN THROW SEATTLE's GREAT STATS IN THE TOILET BOWL BECAUSE THEY PLAYED AGAINST SHIT TEAMS ALL YEAR
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