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    Ufc + wwe = wtf

    How will we know which matches are real???

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    Surprised at this as well. To huge egos.... McMahon... and White joining forces. Odd yet impressive at the same time. Makes me wonder if a UFC match here and there would be fake.... or at least the outcome scripted in someway.

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    Whiskey Tango

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    It's a horrible idea as UFC should be looking at helping their own actual fighters with health care and promoting their sport to make it even more respected. Nothing wrong with WWE, but it's sports entertainment and UFC shouldn't be associated with it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjsuax13 View Post
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    WWF reimaging part 2: Get the Foxtrot out of here!


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    Could have more celebrity fights and maybe Logan Paul will make his UFC debut at some point, which would be big draws.

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    Ari Emanuel, Rahm's brother, own both now.
    See how it works? you figure it out.

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    this merger is pure business and hopefully won't impact the product, hope Vince and his mustache piss away for good

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    How about Vince McMahon's new look?

    He looks like Salvador Dali or a villain from an old black and white movie....

    It is so sad that most people can't age gracefully...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Surprised at this as well. To huge egos.... McMahon... and White joining forces. Odd yet impressive at the same time. Makes me wonder if a UFC match here and there would be fake.... or at least the outcome scripted in someway.
    Here and there would be best case scenario.

    Obviously Nevada Gaming Comm does not care about fixing in fight sports. But they did not get away with their shenanigans for very long once Ontario started licensing books. https://www.marca.com/en/ufc/2022/12...80b8b4577.html

    They outright banned all UFC betting for a period because it is so badly bent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    How about Vince McMahon's new look?

    He looks like Salvador Dali or a villain from an old black and white movie....

    It is so sad that most people can't age gracefully...

    HHH probably told him... You Look Great Vince... give it a shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    HHH probably told him... You Look Great Vince... give it a shot
    Maybe he wants to join a mariachi band

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    Quote Originally Posted by od120731 View Post
    this merger is pure business and hopefully won't impact the product, hope Vince and his mustache piss away for good
    Seems like he's back in full control now. Lot of disappointed WWE fans right now.

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    Vince McMahon looks like an old Mexican Uncle looking for hookers and blow

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    How about Vince McMahon's new look?

    He looks like Salvador Dali or a villain from an old black and white movie....

    It is so sad that most people can't age gracefully...

    Got the Buford T Justice stache going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtymer56 View Post
    Seems like he's back in full control now. Lot of disappointed WWE fans right now.
    There is a lot of hype in wrestling to begin with. I believe Vince was always in full control... even through they were "acting" like he was stepping down because of lawsuits etc. I never bought into the stories. Not knocking Vince in any way... the guy is a force. Large ego... would never take a backseat to anyone. No way he would ever give up control... even to his kids. You'd have to bury the guy first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    There is a lot of hype in wrestling to begin with. I believe Vince was always in full control... even through they were "acting" like he was stepping down because of lawsuits etc. I never bought into the stories. Not knocking Vince in any way... the guy is a force. Large ego... would never take a backseat to anyone. No way he would ever give up control... even to his kids. You'd have to bury the guy first.
    No, I believe for a short period of time he wasn't involved. There were a tons of wrestlers who Vince thought didn't fit into his mold of what a wrestler should look like and Triple H brought them back. AEW started losing a lot of ground with WWE w/ Vince gone and they will be happy that he's back.

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    Might as well add the Slap contest. So you get slapped first then you box a little with both hands and legs and finally you pretend that you wrestle and you have a winning sport!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headsterx View Post
    No, I believe for a short period of time he wasn't involved. There were a tons of wrestlers who Vince thought didn't fit into his mold of what a wrestler should look like and Triple H brought them back. AEW started losing a lot of ground with WWE w/ Vince gone and they will be happy that he's back.
    From a business standpoint... do you really think anyone can just take the place of the original creator and make the operation run 100%? It doesn't work that way. Believe whatever you'd like. When the Hunter Hearst Helmsley character was created... it was all Vince... Vince knows talent. He gave Levesque the green light to get all roided/HGH'd up. He wanted someone to lead and be better than Hogan. The Bret Hart leadership was getting stale. It was time for a change.

    I'm not saying HHH doesn't know talent. But that "WWE Talent Coordinator" title is just to be put on payroll... to get paid by the corp to make it look clean. I'm sure he gives his opinion.... but Vince has the final say in everything.

    You want another example? Look at the Ilitch family after Mike Ilitch died. Red Wings suck... Tigers suck. Chris Ilitch is just a pure pathological liar. Sure... apparently the money is there... but they aren't winning anything. If Vince dies... could the WWE fall apart? Sure... it's possible. Nobody runs it like the original creator.

    Why exactly would there be a story about Vince not being around? Because of a lawsuit? That's just to throw people off. You could still sue the WWE or Vince personally. Just because a story indicates he's not around... how do we know if it's the truth? He's not untouchable. He was always around.

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    UFC + WWE = smart move by Endeavor to create a 20 billion dollar company.
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    Reminds me of other classic mergers like AOL/TIME WARNER

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    Reminds me of other classic mergers like AOL/TIME WARNER
    Reminded me of Worldcom and MCI...


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    They could spin off a huge company here and issue more stock.

    Now both WWE and UFC will have access to even more resources if needed.

    Somebody is making out like a bandit here. WWE shareholders are already getting rewarded.

    Feels like endeavor's stock has been sort of pumped and dumped a few times but could get back to 30, it trades at 22.84 now.

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    All I know is my WWE stock has almost doubled since I got it!

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    op question still not answered
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    Quote Originally Posted by Git Lo View Post
    op question still not answered
    Nothing will change when it comes to the operations of the two companies.

    You've been around awhile, I think you can figure it out.

    The word "real" as the OP put it, isn't exactly a well defined word in this context.


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    UFC 287 main event video.

    Agree or not?



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    was a 2 fight set up = +money

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    I hate Poetik Flakko, he is a fraud himself, the whole North Dakota thing is absurd, he is scared to death of Almighty Suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Masters View Post
    Agree or not?


    JFC... get this crap outta here. Has this YouTuber ever been in a fight. Pereira moved back to avoid the first punch which slightly made him off balance and second punch hit him clearly enough to cause him to go down. Then Izzy jumps on top of him but just because he doesn't hammer him right in the face the act of hammering is significant where Pereira isn't responding and end of fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headsterx View Post
    JFC... get this crap outta here. Has this YouTuber ever been in a fight. Pereira moved back to avoid the first punch which slightly made him off balance and second punch hit him clearly enough to cause him to go down. Then Izzy jumps on top of him but just because he doesn't hammer him right in the face the act of hammering is significant where Pereira isn't responding and end of fight.
    these guys are master on how to bounce their heads off the canvas three times and act like they are out. The way they roll their eyes to the back of their head is always genius too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    UFC + WWE = smart move by Endeavor to create a 20 billion dollar company.
    all there is to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Masters View Post
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    one of the most poorly edited videos i've ever seen. the first punch was super clean and the second finished him. when folks are wrong about their predictions, they don't even believe their own eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    Vince McMahon looks like an old Mexican Uncle looking for hookers and blow
    so he looks like Vince McMahon

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