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Handicapper vs screen watcher
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jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#1Handicapper vs screen watcherTags: None -
JayLASBR Hall of Famer
- 09-11-12
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#2what's a screen watcher? the guy looking at lines and thinking he sees patterns?Comment -
JayLASBR Hall of Famer
- 09-11-12
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#4I also do that. When I have time I open up sportbook lines all over the world and try to figure out why sportbooks hang certain lines, given all the public statistics, injury info, and public perception, and try to guess why the money is going a certain wayComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388189
#5screen watcher= Betting Steam, Betting best Number, Jumping InjuriesComment -
JayLASBR Hall of Famer
- 09-11-12
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#6There's nothing for certain. You can handicap the shit out of a matchup, or "screen watch" until your eyes bleed and you're shitting out numbers and you can still lose your ass.
i dunno how you guys do it and stay saneComment -
iwantcougarsSBR MVP
- 09-29-09
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#7the only thing that matters is winningComment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
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#8You don't need certainty. You need ~ 55% certainty at -110 odds, or the equivalent.Comment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy
- 08-11-05
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#10Highly successful screen watching involves much more than most think, and a reason some have widely different degrees of success doing it.Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#11
It’s not enough to watch the screens, you must have some sort of rating some sort of handicap some sort of number that you think is a good no vig line.
Yes, I explain in a video how to determine the no vig line based on the market movement, the leading and lagging trades, but if you’re already armed with your own no vig line to compare to then you are eons ahead.
Even the most basic of “screen watchers“ following my video need to do some sort of handicapping or rating, without it they can get manipulated out of many good trades.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#12Reading stats, trends and injury reports more important then watching the actual games. Capping is reading.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
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#14
"Trends" are generally garbage.
"Injury reports" tell you who might be probable, questionable, etc., but then it's the later injury alerts/updates that really matter.
"Stats"? What stats are you reading that you think aren't already built into the number?Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#15
There was a thread about the Celtics and that we were trying to catch them when they were "over valued" with the point being you have to look at the line offered, not just go with or against a trend. We got lucky in there with the winning bet being the game winner on an overvalued line against Golden State. Even then, there was debate about the value of the line among us (Lakeshow and me).
Some people try to pick the winner of the game, some try to pick the winning bet. The two are not always the same.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
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#16Exactly. Unless you're actually accounting for it's impact on the line it just becomes extra, subjectively used info. Trends may go one way, but then push the line that way as well, until there is value on the other side.
There was a thread about the Celtics and that we were trying to catch them when they were "over valued" with the point being you have to look at the line offered, not just go with or against a trend. We got lucky in there with the winning bet being the game winner on an overvalued line against Golden State. Even then, there was debate about the value of the line among us (Lakeshow and me).
Some people try to pick the winner of the game, some try to pick the winning bet. The two are not always the same.Comment -
SlickFazzerSBR Posting Legend
- 05-22-08
- 20209
#17Bet one game a day and not every day. Money management and discipline. -- Steve StevensComment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#18
I use links like -
Teamrankings to find out ATS
Free NFL football team ats trends and splits in simple, easy to read tables. This page tracks all games results.
Rotowire for game write up and injury reports
Yahoo sports for last five games on each team (past game match up recaps) when you scroll down.
That is what I do when capping games that I want to bet on. It usually works out if I put the work in.Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-20-23, 01:21 PM.Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#19
I would argue that "betting one game a day and not every day" sounds like a rule that is direct opposite of money management and discipline.
This may be hard for some to swallow, it might not even make "sense" to some, but at our level of betting it's true.
If we think limiting ouselves to an arbitrary "one game a day and not every day" is equal to some kind of discipline then perhaps sports betting isn't the best activity for us.
Further, in no way, shape or form does that, by itself, equate to a form of money management.
Those pathways of thought, and that arbitray quote, are not conducive to long term betting success.Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#21Agreed. If that's one's form of money management and excercising discipline, then there is something wrong.
Again, many might not understand me here, but by itself it's not really responsible betting, even if it sounds like it.Comment -
SlickFazzerSBR Posting Legend
- 05-22-08
- 20209
#22Its more of a simple approach to keep one out of the soup kitchen later than sooner.Comment -
texhooperSBR Posting Legend
- 01-05-09
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#23That Steve Stevens guy is a total scammer albeit rather entertaining.
On his CNBC show Money Talks he would say that shit, would even specifically say bet same amount every game, then have a whale in town for three days, go 0-2, then have the guy pony up like $50k and brag at the end of the show about how he had his guy up while only going 1-2. So what part of “money management and discipline” is that?
Also they give out more than one game a day as documented on the show especially after a loser haha…just so stupid.Comment -
SlickFazzerSBR Posting Legend
- 05-22-08
- 20209
#24lol, that show was great entertainment.
JJ once actually called the office and spoke with Perellia, Steven's top salesman. ha.
Wonder where that video is.Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#25
Sometmes it seems that these advertisers are actually targeting problem gamblers (I know it was Stevens quote, but I'm going a bit further here in this post).
Not all gamblers, but problem gamblers. They act like having tools to control your gambling issues are some kind of heroic help.
I get some of that, especially in relation to research on problem gambling and some proposed solutions to it, but the gambling companies should not be targeting problem gamblers.
I would expect the US regulators to address this issue.
I saw a commercial where Tony Hawk says you can use DK tools to prevent yourself from going everboard.
He says..."Now you don't HAVE TO bet more than you can afford!"...That's a direct target to people who feel they have to bet more than they can afford. Not sure DK is doing them any favors by appealing to them to gamble.
Yes, slighlty off topic but it relates in that we can distinguish the gambler who is playing for entertainment, but are we distingiuishing the problem gamblers from that group?
I think the industry in the US got ahead of itself there.Comment -
texhooperSBR Posting Legend
- 01-05-09
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#26
One a day though is too limiting.Comment -
texhooperSBR Posting Legend
- 01-05-09
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#27I remember that, he had Pirelli on the phone for like 15 minutes and as an avid watcher of the show I can tell you it was really himComment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#28I personally try to keep it to one at a time, roughly, and while a super seasoned pro will say that’s arbitrary, a regular human like myself can fall into a trap where you take too much shit and get overwhelmed. If I go one at a time, or close to that, then it keeps my mental in a better spot, and my mental is what fukks me up more than anything.
One a day though is too limiting.
My point is to work on getting a hold of the mental, so you don't have to limit yourself or even end up forcing a play to get a game in.
It's something everyone has to constantly work on, no doubt about it. It applies to all of us, with an emphasis on the US part of it.
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Brock LandersSBR Aristocracy
- 06-30-08
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#29Still focus on pinnacle above basically any other books #'sComment -
texhooperSBR Posting Legend
- 01-05-09
- 10001
#31I get that, but you clearly also recognize that if you can get a hold of and control of the mental, you might find you are passing up good bets.
My point is to work on getting a hold of the mental, so you don't have to limit yourself or even end up forcing a play to get a game in.
It's something everyone has to constantly work on, no doubt about it. It applies to all of us, with an emphasis on the US part of it.
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KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#32“Weed out the gambling”
penetrating love it tex, I penetrating love it.
Please don’t sue me if I choose to use that phrase in a video I promise to give you credit.
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texhooperSBR Posting Legend
- 01-05-09
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#33I’m coming for your ad revenue KVB!!
Nah man I welcome the fame from being quoted by youComment
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