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  • Mr. Teaser
    SBR MVP
    • 08-16-09
    • 1668

    #1
    Online sports betting and taxes question
    Online sportsbooks are opening up here and I had a question. At what point do you pay taxes on your wager? Single wager and for the year. Thanks.
  • dollarbill
    SBR MVP
    • 03-22-09
    • 1274

    #2
    Any winner over 300-1 they’ll give you a 1099/W-2G important not the date you cash but the date you won.
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    • Mr. Teaser
      SBR MVP
      • 08-16-09
      • 1668

      #3
      "Any winner over 300-1 they’ll give you a 1099/W-2G important not the date you cash but the date you won"

      Thanks for the response. I don't bet longshots. So as long as win less than $600 a day online I won't owe on taxes? No matter what I win on the year?
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      • dollarbill
        SBR MVP
        • 03-22-09
        • 1274

        #4
        Talk to a tax man on winnings for year if you claim loses get complicated. As long as you don’t cash a ticket that pays over 300-1, I don’t think you’ll get a W-2…
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        • TommieGunshot
          SBR MVP
          • 03-27-12
          • 1586

          #5
          Originally posted by Mr. Teaser
          "Any winner over 300-1 they’ll give you a 1099/W-2G important not the date you cash but the date you won"

          Thanks for the response. I don't bet longshots. So as long as win less than $600 a day online I won't owe on taxes? No matter what I win on the year?
          Completely wrong. For US federal: all wins are taxable income. Losses can be deducted, only up to the amount won.

          It might be possible to not pay the taxes that you owe, but if you had any inclination to go the criminal or fraud route, why are you asking about it online, even anonymously?
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          • unde0087
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 03-27-08
            • 28874

            #6
            never, fuk them
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            • pologq
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-07-12
              • 19899

              #7
              each domestic book is keeping track of wins and losses and will be sending tax documents
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              • d2bets
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 08-10-05
                • 39990

                #8
                Originally posted by pologq
                each domestic book is keeping track of wins and losses and will be sending tax documents
                When? They certainly didn't the last 2 years.

                As to OP, you have to pay taxes on winnings, whether or not its reported.

                But as for reporting, dollarbill is correct. No W-2 unless you hit a 300-1 longshot.
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                • BradytheK9
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 09-07-23
                  • 189

                  #9
                  MGM rewards has section under user account where you can see win / loss & tax history from MGM properties
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                  • hehfest
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-28-08
                    • 7934

                    #10
                    What are you thankful for?

                    I am thankful that this guvahmint steals over 1/4 of my income and almost 1/3 of my income.
                    I am thankful that this guvahmint attempts to steal any form of income they can.
                    I am thankful that this guvahmint steals from me every time I make a purchase with sales taxes.
                    I am thankful that this guvahmint steals from me when I pay property taxes.
                    I am thankful that this guvahmint steals from me every year to buy senseless car registration when that car should only need to be registered one time. Among other senseless crooked fees for them to steal from me for any other type of vehicle.
                    I am thankful I am writing this and that I am not a coward.

                    Happy Crooksgiving!
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                    • veriableodds
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-22-17
                      • 5093

                      #11
                      No doubt tax entities like federal, state, ect ect are no good. This happened to me in 2001. My mother had passed away a year earlier(mom dad divorced when I was 11, after 22 years of marriage) We had a family lawyer friend on the estate but as far as assets go if there is designation to that asset no court or lawyer needed. Long story short I inherited a cash account from a well-known brokerage firm. At the time I was already a resident of a state that has no income tax on the state level. Apparently when I filed taxes to report and pay my federal portion, they reported to the state where my driver's license was from. That state tried to tell me I owed them taxes. I had to disprove them in court and remind them the supposed money I owed taxes on was already free from tax before she contributed it. I was not a resident of the alleged state. The federal portion withheld is just a preliminary hold that brokerage firms withhold to cover their asses, which was fully refunded a few days after tax was filed.
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                      • homie1975
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-24-13
                        • 15448

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BradytheK9
                        MGM rewards has section under user account where you can see win / loss & tax history from MGM properties
                        this was a random bump out of left field.
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                        • JIBBBY
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-10-09
                          • 83691

                          #13
                          Two words - offshore books!
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                          • Optional
                            Administrator
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 60751

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hehfest
                            What are you thankful for?

                            I am thankful that this guvahmint steals over 1/4 of my income and almost 1/3 of my income.
                            I am thankful that this guvahmint attempts to steal any form of income they can.
                            I am thankful that this guvahmint steals from me every time I make a purchase with sales taxes.
                            I am thankful that this guvahmint steals from me when I pay property taxes.
                            I am thankful that this guvahmint steals from me every year to buy senseless car registration when that car should only need to be registered one time. Among other senseless crooked fees for them to steal from me for any other type of vehicle.
                            I am thankful I am writing this and that I am not a coward.

                            Happy Crooksgiving!
                            I am thankful that the govt force people like you to contribute for all the services we use.

                            Imagine if we had to rely on people just doing the right thing.
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                            • bjb7223
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-03-12
                              • 10347

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                              Two words - offshore books!
                              the government will be coming after them soon
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                              • BradytheK9
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 09-07-23
                                • 189

                                #16
                                Originally posted by homie1975
                                this was a random bump out of left field.
                                Im actually out in right field since the big guy took over in left! Lol
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                                • hehfest
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-28-08
                                  • 7934

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                  I am thankful that the govt force people like you to contribute for all the services we use.

                                  Imagine if we had to rely on people just doing the right thing.

                                  Wow you sure sound like a rebel. Don't count on it though. They don't force me to do squat, and that is the true spirit of freedom. Go check out your library books.
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                                  • Optional
                                    Administrator
                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 60751

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by hehfest


                                    Wow you sure sound like a rebel. Don't count on it though. They don't force me to do squat, and that is the true spirit of freedom. Go check out your library books.
                                    We do have different ideas of what freedom should mean in a society.

                                    Me thinking community rights should be above personal rights is probably an insurmountable difference in our point of view.
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                                    • BradytheK9
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 09-07-23
                                      • 189

                                      #19
                                      Depends on state
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                                      • Slurry Pumper
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-18-18
                                        • 2811

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                        Two words - offshore books!
                                        Yep.
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                                        • BradytheK9
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 09-07-23
                                          • 189

                                          #21
                                          Its fun when you win, but at tax time 10-99's aint no fun!
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                                          • ARCHIVADO98
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 09-27-20
                                            • 890

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
                                            Yep.
                                            Trump will make them Costa-Rica sportsbooks pay. After he builds a wall and Mexiacns pay for it.
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                                            • stackz125
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-03-16
                                              • 6190

                                              #23


                                              Hope that helps
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                                              • homie1975
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-24-13
                                                • 15448

                                                #24
                                                300 to 1 odds winning, i believe you are required to report
                                                $600 or more in winnings, i believe you are required to report

                                                keep records of everything so you can report your losses against it.

                                                in the course of regular consistent gambling, betting, or similar activities daily, weekly to the tune of 100's or more in a sample size, only 1 or 2% will win over the course of the year so keep records of all the losses.
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                                                • BradytheK9
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 09-07-23
                                                  • 189

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by homie1975
                                                  300 to 1 odds winning, i believe you are required to report
                                                  $600 or more in winnings, i believe you are required to report

                                                  keep records of everything so you can report your losses against it.

                                                  in the course of regular consistent gambling, betting, or similar activities daily, weekly to the tune of 100's or more in a sample size, only 1 or 2% will win over the course of the year so keep records of all the losses.
                                                  Most sites have win/loss report so you can see how much you lost
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