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    Does Juice Matter If Betting Small?? $10 Or Under A Game?


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    JJ, do we have a lot of $1 and $2 bettors here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingillini View Post
    JJ, do we have a lot of $1 and $2 bettors here?
    The two dollar bettors tend to be more honest on the internet than the guy who claims to be a whale betting a dime a game.

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    when it comes to smaller bets i do not think juice matters. in the long run it adds up of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    The two dollar bettors tend to be more honest on the internet than the guy who claims to be a whale betting a dime a game.
    I never once understood the point of claiming to bet money you aren't really betting. I don't get that whole concept.
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    It's all relative. But I suppose if you're just doing it for a little fun and the amount that you win or lose is basically irrelevant, then yeah, not worth the time to worry about the juice.

    If you're actually trying to win and maximize profit, then yeah it matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingillini View Post
    I never once understood the point of claiming to bet money you aren't really betting. I don't get that whole concept.
    bigshot mentality that a lot of people have

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    Of course

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    Math is math.
    Of course it does.
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    Yes. If it didnít matter I would just bet $5 thousands of times.
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    Sounds like somebody is skipping lunch and spending his lunch money at offshore books. No fiesta burrito for you.
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    YES JUICE LIFE MATTERS
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    ^
    Pass that bone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingillini View Post
    JJ, do we have a lot of $1 and $2 bettors here?

    may including me

    nashy call me

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post

    nashy call me

    On it Coach.

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    Juice always matters!! $10 becomes $100 after 10 bets so 10% juice is still $10

    JJ I usually look to you for life's biggest question to get an answer! Your not getting old timers are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackpot269 View Post
    Juice always matters!! $10 becomes $100 after 10 bets so 10% juice is still $10

    JJ I usually look to you for life's biggest question to get an answer! Your not getting old timers are you?
    Just when you think you have the answer JJ changes the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingillini View Post
    I never once understood the point of claiming to bet money you aren't really betting. I don't get that whole concept.
    I've over extended many times during my gambling career! Usually $100 a pop, I bet with local until just a few years back and he really didn't like taking less on a bet!
    Ill bet almost anything but my passion is NCAAF and I had a fairly good mind set on early games, by 3:30 games was a little reckless, and when the night games were about to start I was loaded ,and bet ever game!!
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    Of course. On standard -110 vig it takes $1100 to win $1000 and $1.10 to win $1.00
    Doesn't matter if you have $1100 bankroll or a $11 bankroll. Not to be harsh, but the bookies lick their chops when they see someone like you open an account.

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    Much respect to those that bet 2k to win $100. I could never do that. That's too much of a risk.

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    Are lots a guys here pounding games for only 10 bucks a pop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickFazzer View Post
    Are lots a guys here pounding games for only 10 bucks a pop?
    There's a few.

    I'm not big time, I'm 40/80/120 dude.

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    If you bet $10 or under a game, you are worthless. Go fly a fukking kite for entertainment

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    Ain't no juice when you win guy.
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    Juice always matters in any gambling.

    Sports Betting is my hobby. $50 to $200 a game. Sports betting your mind wanders. Grab a drink and food. Go Pizz. Whatever.

    Baccarat is my passion. $200 to $1000 a hand. Lowest juice in any gambling. When a Baccarat table is rock'n it is Heaven on Earth. I am locked and loaded, laser focused, all troubles gone from my mind. Only ever had that feeling twice in my life. Coaching baseball stepping onto the field, all troubles gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose View Post
    Juice always matters in any gambling.

    Sports Betting is my hobby. $50 to $200 a game. Sports betting your mind wanders. Grab a drink and food. Go Pizz. Whatever.

    Baccarat is my passion. $200 to $1000 a hand. Lowest juice in any gambling. When a Baccarat table is rock'n it is Heaven on Earth. I am locked and loaded, laser focused, all troubles gone from my mind. Only ever had that feeling twice in my life. Coaching baseball stepping onto the field, all troubles gone.
    I've heard that about Baccarat, I've always known about the low juice, never played, but I've heard it can be a rush.
    Besides poker, I'll play blackjack, I can basic card count, you know 2-7 are negative, 8-9 neutral, 10-face cards-ace positive, that I can do, nothing like the MIT whiz kids, same applies to a BJ table, when you get a positive players count with an anchorman that knows what he's doing, there's no greater rush too.

    If you're a smart table game player (double odd pass line craps, basic card count blackjack player) and keep that juice low, you have a fighting chance to have a nice session.

    It's the field and hard eight crap throwers that get eaten up by 18 percent plus juice, keep it simple, play smart, keep that juice low, you can have a nice night out and turn a profit.
    Not long term, but a couple of nice winning sessions.

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    Little by little the casinos are destroying the game of BJ. 8 deck shoes, paying 6/5 on a players BJ instead of paying 3/2, dealers must hit on soft 17. Every one of these is a house advantage.

    Craps is a game I know very little about playing. The only reason I know anything is because one of my bros favorite games. Seems to be many fights at Crap tables. Saw a shooter on a good roll,dice were out,and some dunce had his hand over the table. Dice fly off the table and the shooter went berserk. Note to self: Keep hands off table.

    Lastly, baccarat is a very easy game to learn. There are a few nuances about the game that you can easily pick up with some YouTube assistance. A game that is extremely popular with Asians. I will buy In for $2500 and get some curious looks. If everyone is betting banker I will play along with a $300 or $400 wager. The largest wager has control of opening the hand. One thing you never want to do is wreck a streak. If a certain player has been lucky opening up the hands you just say,”same driver”, which means even though you have the largest wager you are giving the table respect by allowing the same lucky player to open the hand. Asians are extremely superstitious and very serious about such nuances.

    GLTA

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    Dude at the bar was yelling and screaming at the game for like an hour straight. Annoying as fukk. I was like bro how much you have on this game? About $300? $400? He goes no... I have $10 on this game. I looked at him like.... please go fukk yourself. All the yelling and screaming over $10 on a game. unfukkingreal
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose View Post
    Little by little the casinos are destroying the game of BJ. 8 deck shoes, paying 6/5 on a players BJ instead of paying 3/2, dealers must hit on soft 17. Every one of these is a house advantage.
    Slowly but surely some of the casinos are backing off that BJ 6/5 bullshit.
    Too much negative publicity.
    Some casinos don't give a shit, and they'll never get a dime of my action.
    Some joints will give you the 3:2 BJ and stand on all 17's, but you must give them green chip or higher action.
    You want the lower limit games, it's 6:5 (I know a few joints that does that)

    Than there's my go-to's, the casinos that never f ucked with the game in the first place.
    I love Orleans in Las Vegas. They give me a 10 dollar, minimum, two deck shoe, proper odds game.
    You can't ask for a better game (well you can, single deck)
    Plus Orleans spreads all the mixed poker games too, love their poker room.

    Oh, their creole shrimp gumbo is to die for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    may including me

    nashy call me
    Me too JJ, I love $2 wagers!

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    Even betting 10 dollars on a game will likely force you to watch it closer to pick up on team trends/signals
    you may find helpful when you pound them later in the year for a bigger bet.

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    @ nash

    If you truly enjoy BJ I have a simple system that works on a 3/2 BJ table. Forget about the + & - count system because it's very highly overrated. All you need to do is count the Aces. Aces not only help you in scoring BJ but are also very helpful in doubling down your 9's against a dealers 4 or 5 or 6 but also doubling your 10's as well. You don't need to count ten value cards because it could take you 2 or 3 shoes to get a + count advantage. 10 value cards are going to generally stay within a + or - 3 count. Not enough to worry about.

    So here's what you do. Count only Aces and keep an eye on the discard pile on the dealers right. Play two hands so you're getting a 2-1 advantage over the house at scoring a BJ. You know how thick a 52 card deck is so if you see 1 discard deck with only one Ace gone you immediately have an Ace count advantage in your favor. Increase your two hands wagers by a slight amount. Not enough to draw attention. Let's say another deck goes by and you've only counted 3 Aces in the two deck discard pile. There's supposed to be 8 Aces out so you are now at a +5 Ace count. This is substantially in your favor. Press the bets on your two hands even more.

    This is my proven system, and it WORKS!!! An easy way of keeping your Ace count is to pile red chips up by your chip stacks. Players fidget with their chips all the time and the house has zero idea what you are doing. DO NOT get greedy. Hit'em and run after a couple shoes for a quick $500 profit and you will never get caught.

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    ^
    Interesting post.

    I try to keep track of the fives.
    Why?
    Think about it, if the dealer must draw 12 to 16, what's the only card in the deck that makes the dealers hand a pat hand?

    Mr. Five of course.
    Think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edawg View Post
    Ain't no juice when you win guy.
    I know you're being facetious, but somebody might believe you.
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