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  • Nate rasta
    SBR MVP
    • 05-30-22
    • 2953

    #1
    MGM Borgata AC Sued
    https://apnews.com/article/technology-lawsuits-business-atlantic-city-racketeering-c565b6996b8f937905d0320297cbcdf0
  • Nate rasta
    SBR MVP
    • 05-30-22
    • 2953

    #2
    ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) — A New York City man is suing an Atlantic City casino, its parent company and its online betting partner, alleging he was repeatedly disconnected while gambling online, and was given payments to prevent him from reporting the malfunctions to New Jersey gambling regulators d
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    • Nate rasta
      SBR MVP
      • 05-30-22
      • 2953

      #3
      This used to happen all the time with online poker even live betting
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      • Nate rasta
        SBR MVP
        • 05-30-22
        • 2953

        #4
        I know there's a delay between t.v. and live action.but how do the books always know the outcome of the play before it happens on live t.v.? Do they have a different feed where there's no delay or do they have a person in the stadium of every game
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        • pologq
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-07-12
          • 19899

          #5
          JJ is this you?




          more info here

          Last edited by pologq; 09-30-22, 10:36 AM.
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            Polker no

            Nothing comes of these suits
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            • pologq
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-07-12
              • 19899

              #7
              There is a strong resemblance JJ. He gambles 24 hours straight just like you.
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              • big joe 1212
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 06-01-08
                • 19380

                #8
                How will he prove that it was the casinos glitches? Won’t they just blame his internet?

                They probably just kept giving him money to keep him happy since they knew he was just gonna blow it plus a lot more.
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                • pologq
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-07-12
                  • 19899

                  #9
                  he swindled people with fraud. sounds like he is repeating his trend.
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                  • Nate rasta
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-30-22
                    • 2953

                    #10
                    He lost 29 million can't really feel bad for him
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                    • Nate rasta
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-30-22
                      • 2953

                      #11
                      Again can anyone answer this question. When you do live betting the line always changes before the play happens How do they know before us
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                      • Otters27
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 07-14-07
                        • 30750

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nate rasta
                        Again can anyone answer this question. When you do live betting the line always changes before the play happens How do they know before us
                        Guys are at the games
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                        • Nate rasta
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-30-22
                          • 2953

                          #13
                          How do I get that job
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                          • lonegambler23
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-22-16
                            • 9760

                            #14
                            another gambler who cannot accept that its impossible to win just about.
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                            • Optional
                              Administrator
                              • 06-10-10
                              • 61209

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nate rasta
                              How do I get that job
                              People have posted links to job ads on here in years past.

                              Doesn't pay much. Game ticket plus $50 sort of deal I think.









                              This dude sounds like a likely type!


                              Antar is a convicted fraudster who faces the prospect of additional prison time in November for a scheme in which he cheated friends and relatives of money he used to feed his compulsive gambling habit. In the most recent case, he has pleaded guilty to theft by deception.He also is the nephew of Eddie Antar, who founded the Crazy Eddie electronics stores in the 1970s and 1980s, who defrauded investors out of more than $74 million. Eddie Antar died in 2016.
                              In 2013, Sam Antar was sentenced to 21 months in federal prison for taking $225,000 in a fraudulent investment scheme.
                              “I’ve been in prison once, and I’m probably facing prison again, and it all had to do with me not being able to admit to myself I was a compulsive gambler,” Antar said in an interview with The Associated Press Thursday. “When I look at what I did, I’m sick about it. A lot of people have this problem and they need help.”
                              In his lawsuit, Antar claims he alerted numerous employees and officials with the gambling companies to the fact that there was a serious, recurring problem with disconnections, but that they knowingly kept malfunctioning games available to the public because they were too profitable to take down.
                              He says his complaints were made to local supervisors and VIP hosts, an online complaint portal, and even to the president of the casino and the CEO of its parent company.
                              He also claims the companies paid him near-daily bonuses totaling $30,000 a month to keep him playing and to entice him not to report problems with the games to the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement.


                              I hope if he wins the fine goes to a safe gambling fund and not to the player.

                              Not good for bettors or the industry if degens can turn this into a game where they lose everything and try to claim it back later. Has made for a mess in the UK system but not tolerated in many other jurisdictions thankfully.
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                              • Louisvillekid1
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-17-07
                                • 52143

                                #16
                                Bro idc if mgm is a sponsor here

                                THEY ARE AWFUL

                                they just have girls at borgata offering free plays

                                then you win and they won’t pay

                                draft kings @ fan duel only in jersey

                                they are brutal w/ customer service

                                listen I know half the borgata poker room

                                it’s ridic
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                                • Louisvillekid1
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-17-07
                                  • 52143

                                  #17
                                  I.e.

                                  me and my boy get a free play sitting in Sportsbook

                                  first off , we spending hundreds way over the min $150 they charge on sundays

                                  kicked out cuz of reservation , we both had $6800 of tickets plus playing horses across the hall

                                  We turn the $1k into $23k on the side of our wagers

                                  I go up to room , party w/ some working girls

                                  come back down , and they have dude at promo table on a laptop

                                  he’s like ahh can’t realease funds so so so …

                                  well he keeps saying “ check back in an hour”

                                  4 days later , still nothing

                                  so I’m like fukk it “testing them”

                                  just bet the 23k on “so & so game”

                                  he’s like your in.

                                  SO I FREAK OUT , how can you place a wager with my funds but I can’t get them.

                                  and this was not a rollover situation

                                  anyway it loses

                                  5th day we check out , I flip the promo table on the way out along with his lap top

                                  right outside the poker room / Sportsbook entrance

                                  if you know the borgata you know

                                  fukk mgm

                                  and I have more stories not involving me
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #18
                                    nobody wins vs a casino they have too much money

                                    Lawyer fees too much to fight mega giants
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                                    • Optional
                                      Administrator
                                      • 06-10-10
                                      • 61209

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                      I.e.

                                      me and my boy get a free play sitting in Sportsbook

                                      first off , we spending hundreds way over the min $150 they charge on sundays

                                      kicked out cuz of reservation , we both had $6800 of tickets plus playing horses across the hall

                                      We turn the $1k into $23k on the side of our wagers

                                      I go up to room , party w/ some working girls

                                      come back down , and they have dude at promo table on a laptop

                                      he’s like ahh can’t realease funds so so so …

                                      well he keeps saying “ check back in an hour”

                                      4 days later , still nothing

                                      so I’m like fukk it “testing them”

                                      just bet the 23k on “so & so game”

                                      he’s like your in.

                                      SO I FREAK OUT , how can you place a wager with my funds but I can’t get them.

                                      and this was not a rollover situation

                                      anyway it loses

                                      5th day we check out , I flip the promo table on the way out along with his lap top

                                      right outside the poker room / Sportsbook entrance

                                      if you know the borgata you know

                                      fukk mgm

                                      and I have more stories not involving me
                                      Sounds like the promo guy is going over board trying to keep you playing. Like some books do.

                                      Shame you let him take a bet with it. He'd have to pay you in the end if the terms said that no matter how much bluff he put on.
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                                      • Optional
                                        Administrator
                                        • 06-10-10
                                        • 61209

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        nobody wins vs a casino they have too much money

                                        Lawyer fees too much to fight mega giants
                                        That's why we need them all to agree to third party dispute resolution. Like SBR will be able to provide, for example.
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                                        • Louisvillekid1
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-17-07
                                          • 52143

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Optional
                                          Sounds like the promo guy is going over board trying to keep you playing. Like some books do.

                                          Shame you let him take a bet with it. He'd have to pay you in the end if the terms said that no matter how much bluff he put on.
                                          That dude was typing and calling bosses for over 72 hours

                                          im telling you opty

                                          first off , love you bro … hope all is well

                                          but secondly , they have done some messed up shit

                                          I mean thrn you walk up to the window and they say “ we have nothing to do w/ mgm promos”

                                          !!!!!! wtf

                                          man draft kings and fan duel will let you collect asap right at their casino windows in ac and are excelllent customer service
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                                          • big joe 1212
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 06-01-08
                                            • 19380

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                            That dude was typing and calling bosses for over 72 hours

                                            im telling you opty

                                            first off , love you bro … hope all is well

                                            but secondly , they have done some messed up shit

                                            I mean thrn you walk up to the window and they say “ we have nothing to do w/ mgm promos”

                                            !!!!!! wtf

                                            man draft kings and fan duel will let you collect asap right at their casino windows in ac and are excelllent customer service
                                            MGM let’s you collect at Borgata sportsbook too. I’ve done it multiple times.

                                            Those girls outside the horse book gave me a 1k free bet with a 1k deposit. I bet the 1k on a hockey game which won and the other 1k on a basketball game. Both won. They let me cash out the balance and it was available at the window when they opened the next day.
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                                            • Louisvillekid1
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-17-07
                                              • 52143

                                              #23
                                              Not me , granted this was at the beginning

                                              maybe 2-3 years ago

                                              fukk bet mgm

                                              borgata is great too me tho

                                              comps galore
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                                              • Nate rasta
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-30-22
                                                • 2953

                                                #24
                                                You think he would learned after losing the first million.haha fockin idiot.cant fix stupid,he deserved to loose
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                                                • stevex
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 05-02-10
                                                  • 5122

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                  Not me , granted this was at the beginning

                                                  maybe 2-3 years ago

                                                  fukk bet mgm

                                                  borgata is great too me tho

                                                  comps galore
                                                  Comps from casino action. NJ sportsbooks don’t give you comps for sports action. Trust me.
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                                                  • Louisvillekid1
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-17-07
                                                    • 52143

                                                    #26
                                                    Um ok , I trust you

                                                    comps come from … w/e

                                                    gl sir
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                                                    • DJK
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 2423

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                      Not me , granted this was at the beginning

                                                      maybe 2-3 years ago

                                                      fukk bet mgm

                                                      borgata is great too me tho

                                                      comps galore
                                                      Why would you think that Borgata gives you good comps? Ever since they took over fully from Boyd running the casino operation, their food comping rate went down to less than 1/2 of what it used to be; more like 1/3 if anything. Now, it's even worse.

                                                      In Vegas, MGM gives you absolutely NOTHING and MGM owns Borgata.

                                                      Perhaps if you didn't carry any comp balance, then you can ask for something and they will give you something but for someone like me who carries a few hundreds in comp balance asking them for anything is just a waste of time as I will get nothing.

                                                      I played 8 hours just two days ago with the average bet of $100+ with the max bet of $2,000 a hand and I got only $33 comp dollars which translates to like 4% of the average bet size. When Boyd ran things, it was an automatic 15% of the average bet amount and I would have gotten $120 in comp dollars.
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                                                      • big joe 1212
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 06-01-08
                                                        • 19380

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DJK
                                                        Why would you think that Borgata gives you good comps? Ever since they took over fully from Boyd running the casino operation, their food comping rate went down to less than 1/2 of what it used to be; more like 1/3 if anything. Now, it's even worse.

                                                        In Vegas, MGM gives you absolutely NOTHING and MGM owns Borgata.

                                                        Perhaps if you didn't carry any comp balance, then you can ask for something and they will give you something but for someone like me who carries a few hundreds in comp balance asking them for anything is just a waste of time as I will get nothing.

                                                        I played 8 hours just two days ago with the average bet of $100+ with the max bet of $2,000 a hand and I got only $33 comp dollars which translates to like 4% of the average bet size. When Boyd ran things, it was an automatic 15% of the average bet amount and I would have gotten $120 in comp dollars.
                                                        Agree. MGM sucks with comp dollars. Other than free rooms and tickets to shows, they don’t give much.
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                                                        • Louisvillekid1
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-17-07
                                                          • 52143

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by DJK
                                                          Why would you think that Borgata gives you good comps? Ever since they took over fully from Boyd running the casino operation, their food comping rate went down to less than 1/2 of what it used to be; more like 1/3 if anything. Now, it's even worse.

                                                          In Vegas, MGM gives you absolutely NOTHING and MGM owns Borgata.

                                                          Perhaps if you didn't carry any comp balance, then you can ask for something and they will give you something but for someone like me who carries a few hundreds in comp balance asking them for anything is just a waste of time as I will get nothing.

                                                          I played 8 hours just two days ago with the average bet of $100+ with the max bet of $2,000 a hand and I got only $33 comp dollars which translates to like 4% of the average bet size. When Boyd ran things, it was an automatic 15% of the average bet amount and I would have gotten $120 in comp dollars.
                                                          Bro I get a letter thing every week + emails for 3 free rooms a night...

                                                          I can send pics

                                                          wtf
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                                                          • Louisvillekid1
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-17-07
                                                            • 52143

                                                            #30
                                                            Im not fukking talking about comp $$$

                                                            Im talking about food/drinks/rooms

                                                            wtf
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                                                            • Cicadasinthe
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 07-28-21
                                                              • 117

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                                              Has made for a mess in the UK system but not tolerated in many other jurisdictions thankfully.
                                                              Gambling companies sponsor 10 of 20 Premier League teams, ads are chronic before and after games, during with signage and there’s a bookies on every high street. They made their own mess. And they lean on it when they want to limit accounts. They’re scum.
                                                              Last edited by Cicadasinthe; 10-05-22, 06:34 AM.
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                                                              • DJK
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 2423

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                                Im not fukking talking about comp $$$

                                                                Im talking about food/drinks/rooms

                                                                wtf
                                                                You must be a high roller to get 3 nights a week.

                                                                What do you play at Borgata and what's your average bet size? It has to be in hundreds to get 3 comped nights a week.

                                                                Also, I can only guess that you lose a lot, too. But then, you bet big enough you can win a lot, too.

                                                                Don't you have to use your comp dollars for food and drinks?

                                                                Or, does your host comp all your expenses? It's probably this.
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                                                                • big joe 1212
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 06-01-08
                                                                  • 19380

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by DJK
                                                                  You must be a high roller to get 3 nights a week.

                                                                  What do you play at Borgata and what's your average bet size? It has to be in hundreds to get 3 comped nights a week.

                                                                  Also, I can only guess that you lose a lot, too. But then, you bet big enough you can win a lot, too.

                                                                  Don't you have to use your comp dollars for food and drinks?

                                                                  Or, does your host comp all your expenses? It's probably this.
                                                                  They give me 3 nights per week.

                                                                  They don’t give me much of anything else though besides free show tix, $50 free play, $50 comp dollars 2x a month
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                                                                  • BOWLSZN
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 12-22-17
                                                                    • 196

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Nate rasta
                                                                    I know there's a delay between t.v. and live action.but how do the books always know the outcome of the play before it happens on live t.v.? Do they have a different feed where there's no delay or do they have a person in the stadium of every game

                                                                    Companies like Sportradar Betgenius & other betting provider's that offer inplay wagering do send a person to the stadium that will update as the game unfolds more so for NBA MLB NFL NHL & CBB hope this Helps
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                                                                    • USCPHILLYGUY
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-15-12
                                                                      • 21744

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by big joe 1212
                                                                      They give me 3 nights per week.

                                                                      They don’t give me much of anything else though besides free show tix, $50 free play, $50 comp dollars 2x a month
                                                                      Joey can you get tickets for Sebastian Maniscalco for the Mrs
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