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    Lakers targeting Nick Nurse as next head coach

    Credit: Shams Charania
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    After a failed season that started with a draft-night trade heightening championship expectations and ended outside of the postseason, the Lakers must re-evaluate everything, from their decision-making to how they surround two All-NBA pillars to their coaching staff. And changes are coming.


    The Lakers fired head coach Frank Vogel on Monday. Among the franchise’s top targets for the position, multiple sources tell The Athletic, is Toronto Raptors head coach Nick Nurse.


    In three seasons as Lakers coach, Vogel helped lead the franchise to the 2020 NBA championship and had a 127-98 record. But these Lakers have been searching for a new voice, and Vogel, who is entering the final year of his contract, saw defensive slippage and had his voice wane throughout the season.


    Nurse, who led the Raptors to a championship in 2019, signed a multiyear contract extension in 2020 and has two years left on his deal. It’s unclear whether he will be attainable or whether he would have interest, but the Lakers are hoping the former Coach of the Year is an option with the allure of coaching James and Davis and the appeal of the Los Angeles market. To acquire Nurse, the Lakers would need to receive permission from the Raptors and likely engage them on a prospective trade. Over the next several weeks, expect several other candidates to emerge, including University of Michigan coach Juwan Howard, who interviewed for the opening in 2019.


    Ten months ago, when the Lakers acquired Russell Westbrook on draft night, the storied franchise was expected to compete for its second championship in three years. The big three of LeBron James, Anthony Davis and Westbrook met multiple times prior to the trade, finding a vision on joining forces and the sacrifices necessary to win. There were questions about the fit, but James was very confident that the three future Hall of Famers would find a way to win.



    It ended in disappointment: Although injuries and COVID-19 breakouts occurred, the Lakers should have been far better than their 33-49 record and 11th-place finish in the Western Conference. James, Davis and Westbrook never found chemistry together, the roster lacked youth, athleticism and 3-point shooting, and the coaching staff could never discover a consistently winning group all season. Even more, the Lakers’ inexplicable losses to the league’s worst teams came back to bite them. They had seven total defeats against Oklahoma City, Portland, Sacramento and Indiana prior to the All-Star break and a loss to Houston post-All-Star break. That’s eight wins that could have changed the course of the season … coulda, woulda, shoulda. Add in two post-All-Star break losses to New Orleans — the ninth seed in the Western Conference and set for a home Play-In Tournament game against San Antonio — and these Lakers only have themselves to blame.


    Now, what comes next?


    Every team across the NBA would salivate for the James and Davis pairing when both are healthy; it’s on Lakers management and ownership to find the supporting cast to fit around them and the coaches to lead the roster. James, who is eligible for a two-year, nearly $100 million extension this offseason, and Davis will work to get their bodies fully right in the offseason and maintain health throughout the 2022-23 season.


    Throughout the NBA, teams are also keeping an eye on how the Lakers manage the Westbrook situation. Westbrook has a player option for $47 million this offseason, which he is expected to pick up. Westbrook remained a professional throughout the season, but his partnership with Vogel failed to gain traction as the season went on. In an early-season film session, assistant coach David Fizdale challenged Westbrook on his shot selection, and the two had an animated exchange, sources said. That was one of the instances when Westbrook was challenged by a coach or teammate, and the style the coaching staff envisioned for Westbrook did not match what took place on the court.



    When Westbrook met with James and Davis prior to the blockbuster draft-night trade last year, sources say the league’s all-time leader in triple-doubles assured them he would accept any role given to him and be willing to adapt based on critique. The outcome of the season shows a common ground was not found.


    The Indiana Pacers could emerge as a potential suitor for Westbrook, rival executives believe, but any trade involving the former NBA MVP will be complicated due to his massive salary and the Lakers’ next available first-round draft pick being in 2027, which the franchise will prioritize and thus be prudent in deciding the best route with Westbrook. Two other routes for Westbrook could be keeping him or discussing a contract buyout.



    The Pacers are building around Tyrese Haliburton, but rival teams expect them to be open to trade conversations around Malcolm Brogdon and Buddy Hield this offseason. Hield has two years and $40.4 million remaining on his deal while Brogdon has three years and nearly $68 million. If Indiana wants to shed future salary, could it view the Lakers and Westbrook’s expiring deal as a match?



    Westbrook said last week his plan is to return to the team next season but admitted it was not guaranteed because of the business element of the league.

    The roller-coaster offseason begins.

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    It would be a good move but LeBron James can have zero input he ruins teams because general managers an owners listen to him

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    Aren't they basically the same guy?

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    Coaching is not the Lakers problem. The roster is..

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    Nick Nurse though? Wow. Laker Nation going down the tubes.

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    I don’t see it happening.

    Nick Nurse is a made man in Toronto

    I see him telling Lebron to take his interest and shove it where the sun don’t shine

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    I never thought I would say this, but if the Lakers don't figure it out by the time the Clippers arena is built, I am OUT.

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    they lakers and lebron think they can just have what ever they want,nurse is staying in toronto

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    Blame it on the coach.

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    Can't be the guys that sat out half the season, or continually threw shots off the side of the backboard.

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    Who would want to be involved with James?

    He gets everyone fired

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    As said before and everyone knows, this team is a disaster. They need to blow it up, but they don't have draft picks.

    So, they're stuck with a 37 year old superstar, Anthony Davis who gets hurt often, and what...including Carmelo, who played great but is way over the hill already.

    I think the GM bought some time with the coach getting fired, but Rob Pelinka is the problem, unless he was forced into making the moves he did.

    The GM will be fired, the new coach will be fired (after getting million$ richer), and the Lakers will be the most miserable team in the NBA over the next 5 years.

    Not saying anything here everyone doesn't know already.

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    The ONLY way the Lakers get out of this is to trade (yes, trade) LeBron (while he still has value), Davis, or Westbrook. I'm not sure that' even allowed, and with Westbrook they'll have to eat ca$h to trade him.

    James will be a strong role player next year, and he'll be miserable on a team with no chance in h ell to do anything. As will Davis.

    That way they can get decent players in their prime who can at least make them not look like a joke. They HAVE to do this imo or the franchise will suffer tremendously.

    But instead they fired the coach. And it's pretty certain James is gone after this season. Anthony Davis is committed to the Lakers through 2025, and he is going to be bigtime miserable as I said, unless he is traded. And he'll get traded under a fire sale, as everyone knows the Lakers have to dump Anthony Davis.

    Miserable days for the Lakers ahead unless they make changes.

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    No way this happens. Nick Nurse is heavily involved in charities in Toronto, coaches the Canadian national team, and is in a very organized situation with the Raptors and their management. Lakers will probably settle for someone like Alvin Gentry now that he's available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    No way this happens. Nick Nurse is heavily involved in charities in Toronto, coaches the Canadian national team, and is in a very organized situation with the Raptors and their management. Lakers will probably settle for someone like Alvin Gentry now that he's available.
    Black coach incoming, I was going to say. Don’t think gentry though

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    Lakers wont have much difficulty getting some guy off the street (someone like Chauncey Billups) to coach their team - it's the Lakers - but they're not going to get much interest from a top coach after how they treated Vogel. Word in the rumour mills was that Kurt Rambis was dressing him down in front of the team. I seem to remember the great Phil Jackson having an issue with Rambis too. Weird organisation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBetYou View Post
    Lakers wont have much difficulty getting some guy off the street (someone like Chauncey Billups) to coach their team - it's the Lakers - but they're not going to get much interest from a top coach after how they treated Vogel. Word in the rumour mills was that Kurt Rambis was dressing him down in front of the team. I seem to remember the great Phil Jackson having an issue with Rambis too. Weird organisation.
    True.
    I don't think Mr. Big Shot would last the season though.

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    Sam Cassell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Sam Cassell?
    E.T. phone home

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    Nick Nurse is like the Bill Belichick of basketball.

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    Lebron and AD are injury prone machines now and only getting older. Trade them both and rebuild if you can and get a young hungry coach in there. Throw away the next year season and rebuild and let Westbrooks crap contract expire.

    This current Laker team is old and absolutely done.

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    Vogel wasn't the man for the job to begin with. Yes, the core over there absolutely sucks.... but Vogel was an embarrassment along with James. Tough situation in LA.... you almost want to tell James to retire. AD isn't who we thought he was either... might want to just start from scratch....

    No matter what coach you bring there.... you'll have confrontation with James.... and it's sad because... why should a coach change his coaching style to kiss 1 player's ass?

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    Anyone is better than vogul

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    Lakers threw away their lottery picks with this seasons horrible trades. That is going to sting them the most when trying to rebuild. Pelicans gonna get some nice first round picks coming up as the Lakers aren't making the playoffs for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    Aren't they basically the same guy?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Nick Nurse though? Wow. Laker Nation going down the tubes.
    No it would be a step UP, Nurse is an EXCELLENT coach that has won at all of his stops around the world. But I doubt this happens, Lakers could "target" him all they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    No it would be a step UP, Nurse is an EXCELLENT coach that has won at all of his stops around the world. But I doubt this happens, Lakers could "target" him all they want.
    +200 to make it happen. Was+650 last week. I would be sick if Toronto let him go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    +200 to make it happen. Was+650 last week. I would be sick if Toronto let him go.
    Covid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    No it would be a step UP, Nurse is an EXCELLENT coach that has won at all of his stops around the world. But I doubt this happens, Lakers could "target" him all they want.
    Excellent coach. But I've seen Nurse try to fire up his team before.... and yell like crazy. James isn't about being yelled at. James is the biggest stain in the NBA now... if he's so smart... maybe James should coach an NBA team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Excellent coach. But I've seen Nurse try to fire up his team before.... and yell like crazy. James isn't about being yelled at. James is the biggest stain in the NBA now... if he's so smart... maybe James should coach an NBA team.
    He's gonna coach his son for sure. Last place. Can't wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    He's gonna coach his son for sure. Last place. Can't wait.

    Insiders say Bronny is not NBA material and never will be but are afraid to say that to MSM.

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    We all need to really stop talking about the LAKERS. They just really suck and will be a basement team for years to come now. Clippers own LA now..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    We all need to really stop talking about the LAKERS. They just really suck and will be a basement team for years to come now. Clippers own LA now..
    exactly

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    Would be nice to have a Larry Bird or someone like that on the sidelines. Was a great coach in his time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Would be nice to have a Larry Bird or someone like that on the sidelines. Was a great coach in his time.
    DJ if he was still alive, God Bless him would gave been a great HC.

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