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    jjgold
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    You’re way better off finding books that are -110 on the front lines all the time

    At times you might get a half point for the juice but it’s still not worth it the majority of the time that same line is -110 other places vs 115 or greater

    I was looking at some books. -4-115 or -118 then I will go look at other books -4-105/-110

    There’s a reason books do this it’s called analytics and they know they have a massive mathematical edge on player betting pattern

    Always remember when you bet a juiced line you have to hit 60% or better to break even

    I’m still teaching you clowns
    Last edited by jjgold; 04-03-22 at 09:38 AM.

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    Seems like us books have got better

    I remember the terrible juice in the early days

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    It’s a little better certain ones but not much Vegas does a great job though none of that BS



    They pretend they are trying to balance books But no it’s strictly a strategic math play so they player cannot win

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    You’re way better off finding books that are -110 on the front lines all the time

    At times you might get a half point for the juice but it’s still not worth it the majority of the time that same line is -110 other places vs 115 or greater

    I was looking at some books. -4-115 or -118 then I will go look at other books -4-105/-110

    There’s a reason books do this it’s called analytics and they know they have a massive mathematical edge on player betting pattern

    Always remember when you bet a juiced line you have to hit 60% or better to break even

    I’m still teaching you clowns
    "When you bet a juiced line you have to hit 60% or better to break even"

    Yikes. Suspend this guy indefinitely.

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    Juiced lines can work great for bettors if you are betting on the other side of the juiced line.

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    Doesn't mean shit if you couldn't pick a winner to save your fuckin life

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    You’re way better off finding books that are -110 on the front lines all the time

    At times you might get a half point for the juice but it’s still not worth it the majority of the time that same line is -110 other places vs 115 or greater

    I was looking at some books. -4-115 or -118 then I will go look at other books -4-105/-110

    There’s a reason books do this it’s called analytics and they know they have a massive mathematical edge on player betting pattern

    Always remember when you bet a juiced line you have to hit 60% or better to break even

    I’m still teaching you clowns


    Knowing the breakeven % is important, but you can't just throw out a number like that. -150 is breakeven at 60%. You hit 60% at -118, you will kill it. Breakeven at -118 is 54.128%.

    Don't look at the juice in isolation. It has a relationship to the spread/total. -120 is better than -110 if it means you are laying -6.5 instead of -7.5 on an NBA game.
    Last edited by d2bets; 04-03-22 at 11:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    Doesn't mean shit if you couldn't pick a winner to save your fuckin life
    "picking winners" is overrated. Everybody is gonna be close to 50/50 long-term against a closing line. It's about finding small edges in the numbers and getting it consistently. You want to turn -110 into +110. Become the book. Strive for a 5% return and then bet volume.

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    No one ever won betting -110 long term

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    No one ever won betting -110 long term

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