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    The Books have Duke inflated but I do believe it's going to be ruff!

    I've been thinking this game over--who hasn't--even though the Books say Duke's ML is 1.90 or so, UNC is hot and has a ton of momentum rolling.
    Duke had 2 close games out of their last three and showed some possible vulnerability in both those two games.

    Meanwhile, UNC has 3 won of the last 4 games rather handily--including 2 blowouts--an OT win over Baylor, co-favorite with Gonzaga to win it all. But they got the job done.
    And throw that nice win over UCLA, who was highly ranked.
    I just don't know about the 4 points quite yet? I may change my mind in 2 days, but I have doubts about that.
    And get this, they are at 5/1 dogs to win the NCAA? And if they do win Sat. and Kansa also wins, the experts say UNC will be another 4 to 6 dog.

    So the Books are high on Kansas, no doubt? And will be even favored over Duke if both get there.


    I don't believe I will be betting on Kansas if that scenario gets there?

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    Final will be NC vs Kansas.

    These are the two best teams left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Final will be NC vs Kansas.

    These are the two best teams left.
    Just maybe? Both will have very strong momentum riding for them.

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    Just when I thought Duke was going to drop to 3 1/2, they do the opposite? I also thought Kansas would be the one to go to 4 1/2?
    So, who wants to guess just what is truly going on here?
    Me: Is it the Book's sole idea to change these two lines by that 1//2 point because Kansas was 4 1/2 a few days ago and you can still find that number if you shop around?

    Or, was it the heavy wagering that moved both these lines?
    * Come on JJ, you're the Bruce Springfield on SBR, give us some insight?
    Also, JJ, you may want to tell your 1200 followers, "Hey, it's okay to have a different opinion
    than of Abes, and suggest that they are not in danger of him turning his Lion loose on them even if they do offer an opposite opinion?"

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    It looks like MLs for a stack. Stick the spreads in the ceiling fans this weekend. Can always hedge out if need be

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Final will be NC vs Kansas.

    These are the two best teams left.
    Something tells me one will lose

    duke Kansas is square

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    Vegas, how about clearing up that opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABEHONEST View Post
    Vegas, how about clearing up that opinion?
    Just saying good chance one gets upset

    i don’t care tho I am done w this tourney

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    I see. The good or the bad will soon be over.
    G.L. next year.
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    I agree with you that it has been rough play in the tournament. If that is what it is that is fine. As long as the reffing doesn't decide to call it close now and the players have to make an adjustment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    Something tells me one will lose

    duke Kansas is square
    This tourney has been an all you can eat square dance óhasnít it? One of my boys has a perfect final four in both brackets (98.2% percentile) and heís usually a go-to fade for years.

    Iíve went from 56--67% during the season to below 33% in the tourney (< 20% if looking only at pregame picks. I can win live/ neutral games but no pregame picks) 😶
    Last edited by flakeandbake; 04-01-22 at 10:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    Something tells me one will lose

    duke Kansas is square
    My friend I mentioned could figure out the squarer side if it was Skip vs Stephen A. He has Kansas > Duke to win it and his biggest fear is ďduke wins it allĒ All I hear is ďgotta save up for KansasĒ and he actually bet a friend on duke -10 even $ lol (getting cocky)

    Im oppo, if it happens the way people expect on paper Iíll be getting buried. When I first saw the bracket I thought it looked impossible and he just said it was the ďeasiest bracket heís ever seen in his lifeĒ (congrats).

    Kind of strange that the ticket % is on Nova and UNC ó but most ppl are chasing the steam and not even thinking about the games/ teams at this point. The scripts been egregious but I need to learn to square it up. Iím trying it here because Iím confident I would be able to flip sides early if and hop back on Nova/ UNC if they pull an upset.

    I started to fade myself specifically in the college football bowl games and NIT 3-5 years ago and have been a smooth sale in those spots ever since ó square AF/ opposite until the very last game or so. So I may have to adopt the same theory in NFL playoffs (at least wild card weekend) and March madness (seems thereís 1 or 2 good tourneys every 5-10 years. The last was when Michigan lost to Nova. Same friend was a fade machine that tourney).

    Also, is it just that high level fixed or are people that good/ incredible at getting people off their shit and riding winners/ blowing steam? The streakiness and consistency of the same script just seems like bullshit and it continues until ppl get wiped

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    Thereís my rant of the day to those on a freezer

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    I didn’t do that dad I hit saint peter vs dew

    that is my point tho big upsets r done and not worth it on these 4 pt dogs

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    I didnít do that dad I hit saint peter vs dew

    that is my point tho big upsets r done and not worth it on these 4 pt dogs
    True/ sad story - I hit SPU for 3K vs Kentucky and about 4-5k vs Purdue. But I let those come to me vs picking them. And Iím still down on the tourney. Maybe my problem is discipline but if im picking 20-30% on pregame picks / leans it doesnít matter how many SPUs there are

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    The pressure is all on Duke. NC is playing with house money in this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    The pressure is all on Duke. NC is playing with house money in this game.
    Thatís what Iím saying though. Thereís always something that makes you want to fade the f*ck out of these square public joe teams. Iím loaded SCU, Kansas and Duke ML and all I think about is when Iím going to flip onto Kansas and UNC. I could really see Nova getting smoked here (because they just look so much like a play). Idk about Duke/ UNC yet (feel like I usually want to fade the shit out of duke but all this bad talking on them makes me almost lean Duke) ó which would make UNC a play immediately

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    The pressure is all on Duke. NC is playing with house money in this game.
    I still do not understand UNC low ranking?
    They were only 1 or 2 games away from ripping Duke when the tourney stated. The biggest clash all year in the ACC.
    ESPN just stated--is this true--UNC was a 100/1 shot to win the tourney soon before it kicked off? Where was I at when that supposed longshot was offered?

    Did the Books forget they beat Baylor a couple of weeks ago? And still considered to be the dog, along with Villanova. in this Final Four?

    Okay Mr. K go out there and prove the Books right if you can?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABEHONEST View Post
    I still do not understand UNC low ranking?
    They were only 1 or 2 games away from ripping Duke when the tourney stated. The biggest clash all year in the ACC.
    ESPN just stated--is this true--UNC was a 100/1 shot to win the tourney soon before it kicked off? Where was I at when that supposed longshot was offered?

    Did the Books forget they beat Baylor a couple of weeks ago? And still considered to be the dog, along with Villanova. in this Final Four?

    Okay Mr. K go out there and prove the Books right if you can?
    The books know what they are doing. Look at what happened last night. Texas A&M -5, -220 ML. Look at that juice on the ML! Everyone bets Texas A&M because they say they can't lose! Look at what happened. Books murdered the public.

    Same concept with Duke. -4 and -180 ML. They can't lose right? What happens when they lose? The book took all the public's money.

    The point is the books set up the lines in a way that will induce the public to make juicy bets that are more profitable for them. NC may be a better team than Duke. But in the eyes of the books the public will bet more on Duke if they make them favorite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    The books know what they are doing. Look at what happened last night. Texas A&M -5, -220 ML. Look at that juice on the ML! Everyone bets Texas A&M because they say they can't lose! Look at what happened. Books murdered the public.

    Same concept with Duke. -4 and -180 ML. They can't lose right? What happens when they lose? The book took all the public's money.

    The point is the books set up the lines in a way that will induce the public to make juicy bets that are more profitable for them. NC may be a better team than Duke. But in the eyes of the books the public will bet more on Duke if they make them favorite.
    Really? So you think the public wouldn't bet Duke if they were +4? It would be 99% on Duke.

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    Yes, the Books are normally in charge and don't forget, they are dealt an automatic Ace in the hole before you even wager, and meanwhile, you always start with a pair of Duces?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABEHONEST View Post
    I still do not understand UNC low ranking?
    They were only 1 or 2 games away from ripping Duke when the tourney stated. The biggest clash all year in the ACC.
    ESPN just stated--is this true--UNC was a 100/1 shot to win the tourney soon before it kicked off? Where was I at when that supposed longshot was offered?

    Did the Books forget they beat Baylor a couple of weeks ago? And still considered to be the dog, along with Villanova. in this Final Four?

    Okay Mr. K go out there and prove the Books right if you can?
    I have a ticket on UNC AT 170-1 made on march 7th..100-1 was a piss poor line but it prob fell after they won at cameron
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    Quote Originally Posted by beefcake View Post
    I have a ticket on UNC AT 170-1 made on march 7th..100-1 was a piss poor line but it prob fell after they won at cameron
    I would trade you for that "lock" Gonzaga and my longshot favorite, Michigan?
    Those tickets may be worth a fortune in 5 decades?

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    i can almost guarantee these games are fixed

    i remember one finals the champ was up by 5 points - 2.5 chalk other team player sinks a 3 and loses game by 2 and HE's pumping his fist after sinking a meaningless 3 pointer

    BUT thier aint no more local bookies because it's legal most every state

    and now the biggest damn state CALIF. is joining the rest OMG alaredy have card rooms and casinos all over omg they will kill Vegas and Reno

    BETTER step it up Vegas

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBill View Post
    i can almost guarantee these games are fixed

    i remember one finals the champ was up by 5 points - 2.5 chalk other team player sinks a 3 and loses game by 2 and HE's pumping his fist after sinking a meaningless 3 pointer

    BUT thier aint no more local bookies because it's legal most every state

    and now the biggest damn state CALIF. is joining the rest OMG alaredy have card rooms and casinos all over omg they will kill Vegas and Reno

    BETTER step it up Vegas
    Thanks, Old Bill, for not mentioning Biden or Trump, my stomach is already flopping enough, so again, I thank you.
    Even though--I know--illegal on PT, even seeing the B guy's face has my tummy doing flip-flops. So keep up the good work.

    * Should we just block each other?

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    Time to hedge that future!!

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