Duke isn’t a program without coach k. Their athletics wouldn’t have been relevant.
Bill self I agree with
Calipari is just stuck now because with NIL deals you can’t just sell someone on sweet dorm rooms and fancy shit when local businesses elsewhere can offer straight up cash
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Brock Landers
SBR Aristocracy
06-30-08
45360
#4
Kentucky players are all over NBA rosters
Kentucky results don't match the talent by a long shot
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82489
#5
Iowa coach big choker too.
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Mac4Lyfe
SBR Aristocracy
01-04-09
48365
#6
Cal is an awful in game coach. Awful. Imagine if he didn’t have bag men.
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big joe 1212
SBR Posting Legend
06-01-08
19379
#7
Originally posted by pavyracer
Iowa coach big choker too.
He was awesome at Siena
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stake1
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-18
18116
#8
Barnes! That guy had his pick of players at Texas and loads of talent now at TN.
Barnes has one final four appearance, out of 26 tournaments with more talent than any coach during that time combined
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DrunkHorseplayer
SBR Hall of Famer
05-15-10
7719
#9
Originally posted by Brock Landers
Kentucky players are all over NBA rosters
Kentucky results don't match the talent by a long shot
Many of Calipari's players whom are in the NBA were one ann done; they weren't necessarily NBA caliber when they played for Kentucky.
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unde0087
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03-27-08
28874
#10
Originally posted by gummo
Roy Williams and Dean Smith have to be up there.
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unde0087
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03-27-08
28874
#11
Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
Many of Calipari's players whom are in the NBA were one ann done; they weren't necessarily NBA caliber when they played for Kentucky.
So they are a one and done. They weren't that great for the 8 months at Kentucky but the NBA will pick many of them in the first round? Did you actually say that? So they are 5 star prospects, all the top colleges are attacking to get them. They spend not even a year at Kentucky and then get picked first round by the NBA, but during that few months they weren't that good? Is that what you are saying? They are one and done because they have to be. That is the rule. Most would have just went to the draft.
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sweethook
SBR Posting Legend
11-21-07
12667
#12
ncaa - les miles , worst ever 100%
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Itsamazing777
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11-14-12
12602
#13
Self haha.
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JRR123
SBR Rookie
01-07-22
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#14
Originally posted by pavyracer
Iowa coach big choker too.
Fran McCaffrey. I used to play hoops with him in the summer when he coached at Lehigh. Nice guy, but yes, can't win big games.
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johnnyvegas13
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05-21-15
27812
#15
Danny Hurley
but I gotta let that go ....
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MinnesotaFats
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12-18-10
14758
#16
Texas has the 4th most NBA players
There's a college program w lots of ????
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DrunkHorseplayer
SBR Hall of Famer
05-15-10
7719
#17
Originally posted by unde0087
So they are a one and done. They weren't that great for the 8 months at Kentucky but the NBA will pick many of them in the first round? Did you actually say that? So they are 5 star prospects, all the top colleges are attacking to get them. They spend not even a year at Kentucky and then get picked first round by the NBA, but during that few months they weren't that good? Is that what you are saying? They are one and done because they have to be. That is the rule. Most would have just went to the draft.
I'm aware that they're superb talents but when they get drafted, sometimes it's because they're going to be NBA caliber in two or three years but they aren't right now. When Duke won titles with Hurley, Laettner, Hill, etc. those guys were NBA caliber when they were at Duke; a lot of the one and dones aren't at the NBA level during their year in college or even their first year or two in the pros.
I'm aware that they're superb talents but when they get drafted, sometimes it's because they're going to be NBA caliber in two or three years but they aren't right now. When Duke won titles with Hurley, Laettner, Hill, etc. those guys were NBA caliber when they were at Duke; a lot of the one and dones aren't at the NBA level during their year in college or ever their first year or two in the pros.
This is the new normal. i like that the nfl lets the ncaa be their farm system. but the nba is so superstar driven. we will never see a 'great' college basketball team again like the 90's. If you let these guys get shoe deals instead of the coaches who already make millions...maybe some stay longer.
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Mr.Capone
SBR Wise Guy
01-27-19
599
#19
Add this gentleman
Rick Barnes
Providence, Texas , Tennessee
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Mac4Lyfe
SBR Aristocracy
01-04-09
48365
#20
Originally posted by stake1
Barnes! That guy had his pick of players at Texas and loads of talent now at TN.
Barnes has one final four appearance, out of 26 tournaments with more talent than any coach during that time combined
Good call. Didn't he have Durant and couldn't get out of the 1st weekend?
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Seattle Slew
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01-02-06
7373
#21
Tennessee has always been garbage in the tournament, even with Pearl they were terrible.
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Mr.Capone
SBR Wise Guy
01-27-19
599
#22
Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
Good call. Didn't he have Durant and couldn't get out of the 1st weekend?
Yes I believe so they had a talented team of sophomore's and freshman. I believe he was 1 and done.
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clockwise1965
SBR Hall of Famer
10-01-13
6753
#23
Tubby Smith is on the list.
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stake1
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-18
18116
#24
Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
Good call. Didn't he have Durant and couldn't get out of the 1st weekend?
You are correct, he was Durant’s coach. Barnes has had more loaded rosters and failed, over-and-over in March
Today is now yet another wasted season. another new low for him and his teams
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82489
#25
Originally posted by jjgold
Calipari
Coach K
Bill Self
2 of them in Final 4.
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OldBill
SBR Hall of Famer
11-02-21
6402
#26
who was the maniac Coach always throwing chairs in game and other wild stuff?
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OldBill
SBR Hall of Famer
11-02-21
6402
#27
ok wait it was Coach K
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OldBill
SBR Hall of Famer
11-02-21
6402
#28
no it was other Coach K BOBBY KNIGHT
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65220
#29
UConn homer checking in.
Kevin Ollie.
Won a title with Calhoun's recruits, Ollie had nothing to do with that title except taking credit for coaching it
Calhoun GIFTED Ollie that title.
Then in no time flat right after that 'chip, Ollie proceeds to bludgeon the Husky back to the stone age..
Clearly clueless on how to run a big time program, he was so far over his head it was pathetic.
Yeah, I said that at the time as well. He was no better than Bruiser Flynt. Ollie was fielding NBA offers after that title year.
But somehow he got his money, they had to cut him an $11 million check last month.
Originally posted by stevenash
UConn homer checking in.
Kevin Ollie.
Won a title with Calhoun's recruits, Ollie had nothing to do with that title except taking credit for coaching it
Calhoun GIFTED Ollie that title.
Then in no time flat right after that 'chip, Ollie proceeds to bludgeon the Husky back to the stone age..
Clearly clueless on how to run a big time program, he was so far over his head it was pathetic.
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65220
#32
Originally posted by Seattle Slew
Yeah, I said that at the time as well. He was no better than Bruiser Flynt. Ollie was fielding NBA offers after that title year.
But somehow he got his money, they had to cut him an $11 million check last month.
The whole thing was a clusterfuck.
Thank God for Hurley, who had better get us past the first round this year.
(I'll cut him a break, New Mexico State was sneaky good all season)
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MT Casings
SBR High Roller
12-18-16
188
#33
Originally posted by pavyracer
Iowa coach big choker too.
A lot of players leave the program because he’s a total ass.
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JacketFan81
SBR MVP
10-28-17
1743
#34
I can't wait to bump this thread when the the coach who does "less with more" wins the national championship.
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thomorino
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06-01-17
45842
#35
Originally posted by goduke
Duke isn’t a program without coach k. Their athletics wouldn’t have been relevant.
Bill self I agree with
Calipari is just stuck now because with NIL deals you can’t just sell someone on sweet dorm rooms and fancy shit when local businesses elsewhere can offer straight up cash
Horrible take. The NIL deals have nothing to do with why Kentucky isn't as good now. Calipari was one of the few coaches who focused on 1 and done players for a while, now almost every major school is recruiting one and done players, Calipari is getting nowhere near as good of players as he had when he had John Wall and Cousins on the same team.
Duke never recruited the one and done players for years, now most of Duke's roster is one and done players.