Good. Hopefully they don’t get anything done and it starts late af.
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Nobody cares about baseball I hope they never play again it’s a dead game
Anyone watching a baseball game for 3 to 5 hours is a jerk offComment -
They will play all 162. Lost a ton of money in 2020 and most stadiums had reduced capacity for half of 2021Comment -
I agree. However it is one of the only things you can bet during the summer. I can’t stand the length of the season. If they have to play a shortened season and don’t start until the end of the NBA playoffs that would be a blessing. When the NBA had their last lockout and it didn’t start until around Xmas that was BEAUTY in its purest form.Comment -
I wouldn’t be surprised if you see a reduced spring training. Doubtful anything regular season gets cut. Wish they would have kept the guy on 2nd in extras though. Games are long enough like gold said. We don’t need an April game between the Cubs and pirates going 15 innings when it’s 30 degrees out. However I hated the 7 inning DH. It’s not pony leagueComment -
Baseball season is too long anyway, should be reduced to 140 game season.
jjgold is right, no one watches baseball in the summer.Comment -
They need to change it to a 2 tier system. And Each season is 50 games.
Have two seasons a year.Comment -
This is the perfect time for action because there are no games scheduled for months.Comment -
A letter to baseball fans
12:03 AM EST
To our Fans:
I first want to thank you for your continued support of the great game of baseball. This past season, we were reminded of how the national pastime can bring us together and restore our hope despite the difficult challenges of a global pandemic. As we began to emerge from one of the darkest periods in our history, our ballparks were filled with fans; the games were filled with excitement; and millions of families felt the joy of watching baseball together.
That is why I am so disappointed about the situation in which our game finds itself today. Despite the league’s best efforts to make a deal with the Players Association, we were unable to extend our 26 year-long history of labor peace and come to an agreement with the MLBPA before the current CBA expired. Therefore, we have been forced to commence a lockout of Major League players, effective at 12:01am ET on December 2.
I want to explain to you how we got here and why we have to take this action today. Simply put, we believe that an offseason lockout is the best mechanism to protect the 2022 season. We hope that the lockout will jumpstart the negotiations and get us to an agreement that will allow the season to start on time. This defensive lockout was necessary because the Players Association’s vision for Major League Baseball would threaten the ability of most teams to be competitive. It’s simply not a viable option. From the beginning, the MLBPA has been unwilling to move from their starting position, compromise, or collaborate on solutions.
When we began negotiations over a new agreement, the Players Association already had a contract that they wouldn’t trade for any other in sports. Baseball’s players have no salary cap and are not subjected to a maximum length or dollar amount on contracts. In fact, only MLB has guaranteed contracts that run 10 or more years, and in excess of $300 million. We have not proposed anything that would change these fundamentals. While we have heard repeatedly that free agency is “broken” – in the month of November $1.7 billion was committed to free agents, smashing the prior record by nearly 4x. By the end of the offseason, Clubs will have committed more money to players than in any offseason in MLB history.
We worked hard to find compromise while making the system even better for players, by addressing concerns raised by the Players Association. We offered to establish a minimum payroll for all clubs to meet for the first time in baseball history; to allow the majority of players to reach free agency earlier through an age-based system that would eliminate any claims of service time manipulation; and to increase compensation for all young players, including increases in the minimum salary. When negotiations lacked momentum, we tried to create some by offering to accept the universal Designated Hitter, to create a new draft system using a lottery similar to other leagues, and to increase the Competitive Balance Tax threshold that affects only a small number of teams.
We have had challenges before with respect to making labor agreements and have overcome those challenges every single time during my tenure. Regrettably, it appears the Players Association came to the bargaining table with a strategy of confrontation over compromise. They never wavered from collectively the most extreme set of proposals in their history, including significant cuts to the revenue-sharing system, a weakening of the competitive balance tax, and shortening the period of time that players play for their teams. All of these changes would make our game less competitive, not more.
To be clear: this hard but important step does not necessarily mean games will be cancelled. In fact, we are taking this step now because it accelerates the urgency for an agreement with as much runway as possible to avoid doing damage to the 2022 season. Delaying this process further would only put Spring Training, Opening Day, and the rest of the season further at risk – and we cannot allow an expired agreement to again cause an in-season strike and a missed World Series, like we experienced in 1994. We all owe you, our fans, better than that.
Today is a difficult day for baseball, but as I have said all year, there is a path to a fair agreement, and we will find it. I do not doubt the League and the Players share a fundamental appreciation for this game and a commitment to its fans. I remain optimistic that both sides will seize the opportunity to work together to grow, protect, and strengthen the game we love. MLB is ready to work around the clock to meet that goal. I urge the Players Association to join us at the table.
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MLB.com has taken down all the pictures of the players. Wow, they sure are salty fukks.
Astros Roster & Staff
ACTIVEDEPTH CHART40-MANNON-ROSTERCOACHESTRANSACTIONS
Pitchers B/T Ht Wt DOB 
Pedro Báez 52 R/R 6' 0" 232 03/11/1988 
Jonathan Bermudez L/L 6' 2" 237 10/16/1995 
Brandon Bielak 64 L/R 6' 2" 208 04/02/1996 
Shawn Dubin R/R 6' 1" 171 09/06/1995 
Luis Garcia 77 R/R 6' 1" 244 12/13/1996 
Tyler Ivey 63 R/R 6' 4" 195 05/12/1996 
Josh James 39 R/R 6' 3" 234 03/08/1993 Comment -
Mackey, you think Manfred typed that up himself or had somebody else do it? That letter tells me it’s not going to start on time cuz it appears to me he’s already trying to cover his ass if it doesn’t. Removing the players photos? That’s some bitter just got dumped female mentality.Comment -
Or just the opposite and don't own the rights to use them??Comment -
Who cares? Like a lockout is going to make the players jump to their feet and start negotiations two and a half months before the start of spring training; yeah, riiiiiiiiiight. Everyone knows how this ends. The owners will sign a deal that makes them more money; the players will give up more than they should and then bitch about it for the next 10 years. Then they'll go through the same dance all over again.
I didn't watch 60 seconds of a game this year and didn't miss it at all.Comment -
And there were No Fvks Given.Comment -
I totally don't understand Lockouts for any professional sport.
1. 2 sides always PISSED OFF at each other.
2. Always happens 3-4 months before the season begins.
3. No one wants to budge... but if either side doesn't budge... Ain't no one getting paid! LOL
4. Uhh.... these a-holes have bills to pay too... and things on credit. lol
5. As we get closer and closer to Opening Day... mysteriously the sides that didn't want to agree on anything... start to partially agree. lol
6. A total circus.
Would love to see a TOTAL LOCKOUT and a cancelled season.Comment -
If you don’t like baseball you should be thrown out of America on your assComment -
Anyone see odds on if the season will start on time or not? I heard for Season to not start on March 31st (or whatever scheduled opening day is) is -250 ish in far off places....Comment -
lol
the Guardians will never get to play now!Comment -
id draw wood if theres no mlb seasonComment -
Hopefully there won't be no salary cap, that all I care about in those negotiations.Comment -
MLB is getting more off-season public relations than I can ever remember.
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I hate modern Baseball; Lets go back to the old Days 4 divisions no wild card 160 games all night games during the week except on Sunday when all games are daytime! With the Exception of The Cubs they remove there lights and play all day.I quote Wayne Campbell' Yeah Right and monkeys might fly out of my Butt'. Hey I can Dream. Any way i have the USFL This Spring!Comment -
Get this this crap goingComment -
I hope it doesn’t start until mid June and they play a short season. Especially since if nothing else spring training is already compromised and it would be a rush to get the season to start on time which takes players out of their routines and would be a shit show right out of the gates. People who complain about spring training and pre season NFL have never been good at anything. Just because an individual possesses a high level of talent at something doesn’t mean they can just turn it on whenever they want. It takes practice to get to that level and it also takes practice to maintain that level. You can’t expect an MLB player who is used to spending over a month in Florida every year preparing for the 162 game grind to just show up one day ready to go. I’m just glad Japan has their shit together. NPB starts March 26th and I like that WAYYYY better than American baseball.Comment -
they will play, is there a line anywhere if it will start on time?המוסד
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I think the owners should give back to 2 year salary arbitration eligibility for all players
but the players should forget about this proposal to use WAR as a career benefits bonus that discriminates
against mediocre players and is logically flawed. Other things they can meet in the middle on.
The problem is static to diminishing returns because the media markets and inflation can only go so high
until the players understand that the pro league (but not the sport of youth baseball) is just not as big a deal
to Americans as it was in decades past.Comment
