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  • Runeblade
    SBR MVP
    • 09-29-17
    • 2579

    #71
    Originally posted by Bigbill365
    Will u be playing longer?
    You mean longer sessions or more videos?
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    • Bigbill365
      SBR MVP
      • 06-22-12
      • 4572

      #72
      Originally posted by Runeblade
      You mean longer sessions or more videos?
      Yeah longer sessions and vid
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      • Runeblade
        SBR MVP
        • 09-29-17
        • 2579

        #73
        Originally posted by Bigbill365
        Yeah longer sessions and vid
        Yes, I keep the sessions 10 minutes because you want to be quick in and out. The longer you play the more you are susceptible to the house edge
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        • ChuckyTheGoat
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 04-04-11
          • 36791

          #74
          Originally posted by Stryder
          37 divided by 18

          2.05 to the power of 8



          Nice video Rune!

          Stryder...does "dad" set up the roulette wheel at Thanksgiving?
          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388189

            #75
            Has anybody tried this
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            • Runeblade
              SBR MVP
              • 09-29-17
              • 2579

              #76
              Ill tell ya what, If I double my bankroll then Ill stop and I will be done with the thread. Cool?
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388189

                #77
                You got to keep the thread going to see what happens
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                • unclebuzz1
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-23-09
                  • 565

                  #78
                  Originally posted by 5918mike
                  What were the unit bets you were making again? 1-2-3-5-8 ???????

                  1-3-7-15-31-63-127-255 simple martingale system with unique method of placing bets
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                  • Pete0
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-09-10
                    • 3849

                    #79
                    Originally posted by Runeblade
                    Yes, I keep the sessions 10 minutes because you want to be quick in and out. The longer you play the more you are susceptible to the house edge
                    disagree.
                    player edge and house edge is the exact same on every single bet.
                    Also applies to sports.

                    can any1 please confirm this ?

                    the myth of "long term, the house always wins"
                    house wins since bet #1, when lines are -110 , when 0 exists on the wheel
                    whether it be bet#1 or Bet#284
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                    • Runeblade
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-29-17
                      • 2579

                      #80
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      You got to keep the thread going to see what happens
                      ok.
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                      • Runeblade
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-29-17
                        • 2579

                        #81
                        Originally posted by Pete0
                        disagree.
                        player edge and house edge is the exact same on every single bet.
                        Also applies to sports.

                        can any1 please confirm this ?

                        the myth of "long term, the house always wins"
                        house wins since bet #1, when lines are -110 , when 0 exists on the wheel
                        whether it be bet#1 or Bet#284
                        Yeah I can't say your wrong but I just feel the longer I play I feel like one of those rows will eventually match up and then...BANG! i'm dead. lol
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                        • Mike Huntertz
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-19-09
                          • 11204

                          #82
                          Originally posted by Pete0
                          disagree.
                          player edge and house edge is the exact same on every single bet.
                          Also applies to sports.

                          can any1 please confirm this ?

                          the myth of "long term, the house always wins"
                          house wins since bet #1, when lines are -110 , when 0 exists on the wheel
                          whether it be bet#1 or Bet#284
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                          • Pete0
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-09-10
                            • 3849

                            #83
                            Originally posted by Runeblade
                            You are correct. No 0 would be 50%. Those are the odds of hitting red or black. Probability is different from odds though. Basically I'm using a permutation to win bets. Your challenging the wheel to match or mismatch the exact permutation or pattern that just came out and that is where cumulative probability comes in. You can never change the odds but you can change the probability of winning. After all, why do casinos have table limits?

                            i see.

                            limits are there as a combination of risk management (such as this strategy) and other things as well, i presume
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                            • lonegambler23
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-22-16
                              • 9761

                              #84
                              jewlette will always get u in the end
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                              • Runeblade
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-29-17
                                • 2579

                                #85
                                Originally posted by Pete0
                                i see.

                                limits are there as a combination of risk management (such as this strategy) and other things as well, i presume
                                Let's say for example I'm a whale and I go into a casino with $500,000 and I go up to a table with no limits. I could do a bet spread of 25-50-100-200-400-800-1600-3200-6400-12800-25600-51200 right?

                                Your talking 12 steps. If I wait for 4 triggers and then bet that then the casino would have to match an exact pattern of 16 to beat me which would be a probability of 1 and 97000 spins. Goodluck beating me that's all I can say. A loss is always possible of course but with that probability, it would be awfully difficult to lose.

                                With that being said it does does seem silly to risk 51K to win $25....lol
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                                • unclebuzz1
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 08-23-09
                                  • 565

                                  #86
                                  Think of an 8 team parlay. 2 to the 8th possible outcomes = 256. Only 1 combination is a winner with 255 losers. You're betting the reverse. 255 possible winning combinations with 1 loser. You should expect to lose 1 out of every 256 (actual) bets. This doesn't mean you'll lose once in the 1st 256 bets but maybe twice in 512 bets, 3X in 768 bets, or 4X in 1024 bets. These are at even money bets. At negative odds, you eventually run out of money. Have fun while it lasts!
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                                  • BeatTheJerk
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 08-19-07
                                    • 31794

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Runeblade
                                    Ill tell ya what, If I double my bankroll then Ill stop and I will be done with the thread. Cool?
                                    I appreciate the thread & the vids & hope you keep on going even after your bankroll doubles.
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                                    • unclebuzz1
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 08-23-09
                                      • 565

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by Runeblade
                                      Let's say for example I'm a whale and I go into a casino with $500,000 and I go up to a table with no limits. I could do a bet spread of 25-50-100-200-400-800-1600-3200-6400-12800-25600-51200 right?

                                      Your talking 12 steps. If I wait for 4 triggers and then bet that then the casino would have to match an exact pattern of 16 to beat me which would be a probability of 1 and 97000 spins. Goodluck beating me that's all I can say. A loss is always possible of course but with that probability, it would be awfully difficult to lose.

                                      With that being said it does does seem silly to risk 51K to win $25....lol

                                      If only this were true! A sequence of 12 bets will have 2 to the 12th power possible outcomes = 4,096. You can expect to lose once in 4,096 bets, etc.
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                                      • 5918mike
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-16-14
                                        • 1881

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        Has anybody tried this
                                        Im trying it on Baccarat, 6 bets
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                                        • Runeblade
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-29-17
                                          • 2579

                                          #90
                                          Day 4 I almost bit the dust on this one.

                                          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/V_TXlFwq2BU" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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                                          • BeatTheJerk
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 08-19-07
                                            • 31794

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by Runeblade
                                            Day 4 I almost bit the dust on this one.

                                            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/V_TXlFwq2BU" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                                            Thanks for the video close call !!! Stayed with the system & didn’t second guess it & it came through.
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                                            • Runeblade
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-29-17
                                              • 2579

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                              Thanks for the video close call !!! Stayed with the system & didn’t second guess it & it came through.
                                              Yup, you can't deviate. You have to die on that hill.
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                                              • texhooper
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 10001

                                                #93
                                                Operative word being die

                                                Invest this money wisely away from crypto while you have it friend
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                                                • newton0038
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-07-07
                                                  • 2379

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by Pete0
                                                  disagree.
                                                  player edge and house edge is the exact same on every single bet.
                                                  Also applies to sports.

                                                  can any1 please confirm this ?

                                                  the myth of "long term, the house always wins"
                                                  house wins since bet #1, when lines are -110 , when 0 exists on the wheel
                                                  whether it be bet#1 or Bet#284

                                                  The whole theory that the house always wins long term is the fact that the HOUSE isn't human. The house is in control of its risk. The house doesn't sleep, eat, shit or fuk and the only influence it has is volume which can be adjusted accordingly( i.e. line moves, vig moves, slot machine floor layout, firing dealers that expose their hole card...etc) Mind you I'm talking about a professionally managed land based business.
                                                  As for the roulette, there are 37 possible outcomes on a single zero wheel. Payoff is 35-1 on a #. try the cover all numbers except 2 numbers of your choice either it be random or evidence based. You will make 1 unit on each spin with the exception if 1 of the 2 numbers left open hit then you say " who the fuk ever came up with this system.
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                                                  • BeatTheJerk
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 08-19-07
                                                    • 31794

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by texhooper
                                                    Operative word being die

                                                    Invest this money wisely away from crypto while you have it friend
                                                    Hooper he’s up nearly 18% in 4 days pal I say keep it going.
                                                    Last edited by BeatTheJerk; 10-29-21, 07:21 PM.
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                                                    • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 11-30-08
                                                      • 81454

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      Has anybody tried this
                                                      I won 7 betpoints in the casino today doing this
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                                                      • jackpot269
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-24-07
                                                        • 12821

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                                        I won 7 betpoints in the casino today doing this
                                                        DDD dont spend it all in one place!
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                                                        • juicername
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 10-14-15
                                                          • 6906

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by Runeblade
                                                          Yeah I can't say your wrong but I just feel the longer I play I feel like one of those rows will eventually match up and then...BANG! i'm dead. lol
                                                          Why would it be any different if you start your next session 1 second later, 10 min later, 12 hours later or the next day? The math is still the same.
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                                                          • BeatTheJerk
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 08-19-07
                                                            • 31794

                                                            #99
                                                            Where’s our fuckin’ video today pal
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                                                            • Runeblade
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-29-17
                                                              • 2579

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                              Where’s our fuckin’ video today pal
                                                              The RNG is not working for some reason today IDK why. I try again in a little while.
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                                                              • unclebuzz1
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 08-23-09
                                                                • 565

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by juicername
                                                                Why would it be any different if you start your next session 1 second later, 10 min later, 12 hours later or the next day? The math is still the same.


                                                                You are correct! The math is the same EVERYWHERE!!


                                                                The math is the same for all 256 random patterns of 8 steps. (This is calculated as 2 to the 8th power = 256).

                                                                RRRRRRRR is one of those random patterns. He may as well be using ALL REDS for his random pattern, every time, and stop wasting time establishing a new random pattern, every time.


                                                                For 255 of those patterns, you win $1 for every (actual) bet made (regardless of whether it wins or loses) plus the amount placed on the winning bet.

                                                                For 1 of those patterns, you lose $502 (1+3+7+15+31+63+127+255 = $502)

                                                                At even odds, the break even point is 256 bets. (You aren't getting even odds here.)


                                                                Beyond that, the only question is whether that single loss comes before the 256th bet or doesn't come at all during this series of 256 bets.

                                                                If it comes before the 256th bet then you've lost more money than you've made in this series and your current bankroll will be less than when this series started. (If it happens in the 1st series, your current bankroll will be less than your original bankroll.)

                                                                If you win all 256 bets, it doesn't mean it's a winning system. It means you've won enough to cover 1 loss in the next series of 256 bets.

                                                                Eventually, the law of averages will catch up and you'll have more than 1 loss in a series.


                                                                Have fun while it lasts but this is nothing more than an aggressive martingale system with a unique method of placing bets!
                                                                Last edited by unclebuzz1; 10-30-21, 04:29 PM.
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                                                                • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 11-30-08
                                                                  • 81454

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Uncle Buzzkill
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                                                                  • unclebuzz1
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 08-23-09
                                                                    • 565

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                                                    Uncle Buzzkill

                                                                    Just don't want anyone to get hurt by trying this live.
                                                                    Last edited by unclebuzz1; 10-30-21, 05:03 PM.
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                                                                    • JacketFan81
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-28-17
                                                                      • 1743

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by unclebuzz1


                                                                      You are correct! The math is the same EVERYWHERE!!


                                                                      The math is the same for all 256 random patterns of 8 steps. (This is calculated as 2 to the 8th power = 256).

                                                                      RRRRRRRR is one of those random patterns. He may as well be using ALL REDS for his random pattern, every time, and stop wasting time establishing a new random pattern, every time.


                                                                      For 255 of those patterns, you win $1 for every (actual) bet made (regardless of whether it wins or loses) plus the amount placed on the winning bet.

                                                                      For 1 of those patterns, you lose $502 (1+3+7+15+31+63+127+255 = $502)

                                                                      At even odds, the break even point is 256 bets. (You aren't getting even odds here.)


                                                                      Beyond that, the only question is whether that single loss comes before the 256th bet or doesn't come at all during this series of 256 bets.

                                                                      If it comes before the 256th bet then you've lost more money than you've made in this series and your current bankroll will be less than when this series started. (If it happens in the 1st series, your current bankroll will be less than your original bankroll.)

                                                                      If you win all 256 bets, it doesn't mean it's a winning system. It means you've won enough to cover 1 loss in the next series of 256 bets.

                                                                      Eventually, the law of averages will catch up and you'll have more than 1 loss in a series.


                                                                      Have fun while it lasts but this is nothing more than an aggressive martingale system with a unique method of placing bets!
                                                                      Exactly. All I can think of is Frank Scoblete and "qualifying" craps shooters. It's cute but it doesn't do anything but hide the fact you can't turn a bunch of negative expectation bets into a positive expectation simply via combination or complexity
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                                                                      • Runeblade
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 09-29-17
                                                                        • 2579

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by unclebuzz1


                                                                        You are correct! The math is the same EVERYWHERE!!


                                                                        The math is the same for all 256 random patterns of 8 steps. (This is calculated as 2 to the 8th power = 256).

                                                                        RRRRRRRR is one of those random patterns. He may as well be using ALL REDS for his random pattern, every time, and stop wasting time establishing a new random pattern, every time.


                                                                        For 255 of those patterns, you win $1 for every (actual) bet made (regardless of whether it wins or loses) plus the amount placed on the winning bet.

                                                                        For 1 of those patterns, you lose $502 (1+3+7+15+31+63+127+255 = $502)

                                                                        At even odds, the break even point is 256 bets. (You aren't getting even odds here.)


                                                                        Beyond that, the only question is whether that single loss comes before the 256th bet or doesn't come at all during this series of 256 bets.

                                                                        If it comes before the 256th bet then you've lost more money than you've made in this series and your current bankroll will be less than when this series started. (If it happens in the 1st series, your current bankroll will be less than your original bankroll.)

                                                                        If you win all 256 bets, it doesn't mean it's a winning system. It means you've won enough to cover 1 loss in the next series of 256 bets.

                                                                        Eventually, the law of averages will catch up and you'll have more than 1 loss in a series.


                                                                        Have fun while it lasts but this is nothing more than an aggressive martingale system with a unique method of placing bets!
                                                                        Great analysis I appreciate that. There is always risk in everything gambling brotha. Why not go in with a system or a plan than just with nothing at all?
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