U.S.A. books will strong arm politicians to bam offshore books

**Brock Landers** · 10-26-21, 11:24 AM

So what have they been doing the last 25 years?

Toying with them? LOL

**jjgold** · 10-26-21, 11:40 AM

They might not have to

Offshore getting squeezed on google now and major posting boards

It has become taboo to play offshore somewhat

**Runeblade** · 10-26-21, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

So what have they been doing the last 25 years?

Toying with them? LOL

lol good point. It's going to be interesting going forward as to what's going to be passed and what not.

**Fishhead** · 10-26-21, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

They might not have to

Offshore getting squeezed on google now and major posting boards

It has become taboo to play offshore somewhat

Another day, and here we go.

**Roger T. Bannon** · 10-26-21, 11:55 AM

That will happen but you need most of the country to be gambling first. That will take a while.

**Easy-Rider 66** · 10-26-21, 11:56 AM

Let's get the Politicians to legalize in most states first. then Off shore goes BYE BYE

**stake1** · 10-26-21, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

They might not have to

Offshore getting squeezed on google now and major posting boards

It has become taboo to play offshore somewhat

One month ago:

Originally posted by jjgold

BAS..... best modern and efficient software in business lighten fast tremendous lines and platforms

Youwager top notch run by pros clean and fast

Bovada...we know them

Betus....a pioneer

Betonline.....where the pros play

Asian Brokers ........need to know right people to get in

from USA a must

Now these are not big amounts but have money in all

**stake1** · 10-26-21, 12:04 PM

The top offshore books, will never go away. ok they can no longer advertise at Sbr, so what? They already have huge lists of gamblers and can either market directly to them for new accounts
Or they can take the money they spent here and use other ways to advertise.
Or they can maintain their current players and boost their referral programs
the only potential area of possible concern with Sbr banning them: "dispute resolution"

**stake1** · 10-26-21, 12:07 PM

Just 2 weeks ago:

Originally posted by jjgold

I get 10 to 30 cents better offshore almost every bet I make vs usa books

**Roger T. Bannon** · 10-26-21, 12:07 PM

The politicians are actually surprisingly smart when it comes to gambling. They all say that it has to be competitive with offshore. So if the companies aren't cutting the mustard, they are not going to help them a whole lot.

**Crusherrr** · 10-26-21, 12:08 PM

Which is what I'm so scared about. Heck, if you type Bovada into google search bar, what comes up first? Draftkings and Fanduel.

Not Bovada.

The problem is, they act like they are trying to protect consumers. They aren't protecting anyone, they are cornering the market to themselves.

If I'm stuck with USA only books, I'll be done betting. I won't be able to make money with only legal/regulated books. So rather than bet on things for fun without an edge, I won't bet at all.

**stake1** · 10-26-21, 12:08 PM

Just 1 week ago:

Originally posted by jjgold

Heritage is one of the top books in the world they’ve always been good

**jjgold** · 10-26-21, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by Crusherrr

Which is what I'm so scared about. Heck, if you type Bovada into google search bar, what comes up first? Draftkings and Fanduel.

Not Bovada.

The problem is, they act like they are trying to protect consumers. They aren't protecting anyone, they are cornering the market to themselves.

If I'm stuck with USA only books, I'll be done betting. I won't be able to make money with only legal/regulated books. So rather than bet on things for fun without an edge, I won't bet at all.

Yep they are burying them

**Runeblade** · 10-26-21, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon

The politicians are actually surprisingly smart when it comes to gambling. They all say that it has to be competitive with offshore. So if the companies aren't cutting the mustard, they are not going to help them a whole lot.

Politicians are smart?
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**JacketFan81** · 10-26-21, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Another day, and here we go.

Man, SBR is really going with the full-court press against offshore.

Never. Going. Anywhere.

**jjgold** · 10-26-21, 12:13 PM

I was talking to some lady other day about 70 hotter than a loaded pistol at the slot area Wind Creek Casino and we were talking about betting and I said I play at some offshores and draftkings and she said walked away and gave me the finger and went to window to bet some games you see people frown on offshore now.

**swordsandtequila** · 10-26-21, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon

The politicians are unsurprisingly greedy when it comes to gambling. They all say that it has to be competitive with offshore. So if the companies aren't cutting the mustard, they are not going to help them a whole lot.

Fify

**pokerdevil** · 10-26-21, 01:29 PM

Not a single offshore book went under during COVID. I think they'll survive this onslaught from the legal books as well. Harder to pull off another UIGEA or Black Friday when (a) we have Bitcoin now and (b) the sites almost exclusively service US players.

PokerStars was more willing to take the hit on Black Friday because only 30-40% of their customers were Americans. What % of Heritage or Bovada's customers are American - 80%? They'll have a new domain up ASAP if the feds try to toy with them

**mjsuax13** · 10-26-21, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by Runeblade

This is just my opinion but you know this is coming. These U.S.A. books will put political figures in their pockets to pass laws to ban the use of offshore books by American players. Anything to corner the whole market on gambling revenue they will do. Trust me. It could be a year, a few or a decade but it's coming.

It will also give the govt. more power to monitor accounts here and tax accordingly.

Win win for the scumbags in Washington and Corporate America.

Oh yeah… the scumbags in DC will be tripping over each other to get the handouts. Another way to FUKK Americans.

**mjsuax13** · 10-26-21, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

They might not have to

Offshore getting squeezed on google now and major posting boards

It has become taboo to play offshore somewhat

Incredible. How cheap are you to buy? In the event, I need someone to take care of that thing.

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 10-26-21, 01:39 PM

JJ has no credibility. Could've been a politician with that sociopathic personality

**daneblazer** · 10-26-21, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

So what have they been doing the last 25 years?

Toying with them? LOL

right? Calvin Ayre is on the most wanted list

**TheMetsSuck** · 10-26-21, 01:41 PM

If anything they’ll just stop allowing new US customers

**thechaoz** · 10-26-21, 02:04 PM

They already have. This is why we've all been here and had SBR for years. You can't block websites (if you do they will just change to another) and crypto. Republican (of course) Frist put the anti gambling bill in the 9/11 port security act, which started the whole poker apocolypse and made it a lot tougher on the gaming sites to though they adjusted.

Some poker sites decided to pull out and try to be "legal" one day. Odd that it's still a cluster penetrate yet a game of skill, and gambling is becoming legally very quickly.

**jjgold** · 10-26-21, 02:06 PM

Let’s focus on USA books boys

**thomorino** · 10-26-21, 02:17 PM

Us books don't care about the offshore market there is more than enough business for them in the US.

Most of the bigger offshore players are sharper players anyways.

**jjgold** · 10-26-21, 02:18 PM

Thread over

Originally posted by thomorino

Us books don't care about the offshore market there is more than enough business for them in the US.

Most of the bigger offshore players are sharper players anyways.

**stake1** · 10-26-21, 02:29 PM

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**stake1** · 10-26-21, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by thomorino

Us books don't care about the offshore market there is more than enough business for them in the US.

Most of the bigger offshore players are sharper players anyways.

Local bookies in major cities have greater handles than the land based books. they also offer better vig

**jjgold** · 10-26-21, 02:35 PM

Some people are missing the point people rather bet legally and pay more juice but no transaction fees

You’ll never change peoples minds that psychologically they’re going to get paid from the legal places

**stake1** · 10-26-21, 02:40 PM

Transaction fees?
Btc is free in. And Free out

**stake1** · 10-26-21, 02:43 PM

Local bookies > land based books. that will never change. every one I know has their own website too and apps. difference is you settle once a week. most people betting who are chronically taking money out all the time, pain in any offshore books ass. let the land based have them, those gamblers will be broke before any given season ends

**BAD LIEUTENANT** · 10-27-21, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by stake1

The top offshore books, will never go away. ok they can no longer advertise at Sbr, so what? They already have huge lists of gamblers and can either market directly to them for new accounts
Or they can take the money they spent here and use other ways to advertise.
Or they can maintain their current players and boost their referral programs
the only potential area of possible concern with Sbr banning them: "dispute resolution"

Why can't they advertise/post their Lines @ SBR anymore ? What happened ? Thx 4 info

**Easy-Rider 66** · 10-27-21, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by BAD LIEUTENANT

Why can't they advertise/post their Lines @ SBR anymore ? What happened ? Thx 4 info

new USA Based owners for SBR it seems like?