Presbyterian College Hires High School Coach Who Never Punts

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  • Mr KLC
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    • 12-19-07
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    Presbyterian College Hires High School Coach Who Never Punts
    Kevin Kelley, one of the most successful high school football coaches in the country and well-known for his unique approach to strategy that includes never punting and almost always onside-kicking, will be named the head coach of Presbyterian College on Friday, a school official told ESPN.

    Kelley moves to the FCS ranks after a historic run at Pulaski Academy in Little Rock, Arkansas, that includes nine state titles and being named the USA Today High School Coach of the Year in 2016.


  • jjgold
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    • 07-20-05
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    #2
    lol he always has great teams that’s why

    Does not matter if held
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    • cincinnatikid513
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      • 11-23-17
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      #3
      will the books have trouble setting totals for this guy
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      • pologq
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        • 10-07-12
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        #4
        going to be hard to always onside kick on the college level, even FCS
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        • Enkhbat
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          #5
          I don't he will always on side kick and go for it on 4th down everytime at the college level, unless he is completely brain dead.
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          • seaborneq
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            • 09-08-06
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            #6
            When the smartest guy in the room gets his ass handed to him the look and tone will change. He will be on the wrong end of a lot of lopsided scores and go from genius to stupid pretty quickly.
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            • Fishhead
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              • 08-11-05
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              #7
              HS kids punt 25 yds
              HS kickoff 50 yds

              DON'T EVER PUNT
              ALWAYS ONSIDE KICK


              THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENTIST SHIT FOLKS
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              • Mr KLC
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                • 12-19-07
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                #8
                No way would I go play for a coach like this if I'm a defensive player. If an onside kick misses, then you are already protecting your side of the field. If they go for it on 4th and 15 on their own 20, you are potentially starting in the red zone. Better have an offensive line that hardly ever has a false start.
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                • johnnyvegas13
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                  #9
                  Not even 4th and long ???
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                  • Emily_Haines
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                    • 04-14-09
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                    Not even 4th and long ???
                    Guy said he would not be going for it in every 4th down or onside kicking every time.

                    I doubt that shit will work when you have a shitty ass team.
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                    • Otters27
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                      • 07-14-07
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                      #11
                      I get the no punting but insides kick every time?
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                      • luv2bet01
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                        • 04-26-21
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                        #12
                        bet the over to the moon haha
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                        • seaborneq
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                          • 09-08-06
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by luv2bet01
                          bet the over to the moon haha
                          This has Paul Westhead’s Denver Nuggets written all over it. A lot of action and a lot of losses.
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                          • Roger T. Bannon
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                            #14
                            The guy recruited pretty well at high school. We will see if he is as good at lower level college.
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                            • pavyracer
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                              • 04-12-07
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                              #15
                              I wonder if a school ever hires a coach who never likes to scores touchdowns and always kicks field goals.
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                              • seaborneq
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                                • 09-08-06
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                                #16
                                Presbyterian just got got their teeth kicked in 72-0. Not punting and probably only one onside kick. Lol.
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                                • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by seaborneq
                                  Presbyterian just got got their teeth kicked in 72-0. Not punting and probably only one onside kick. Lol.
                                  Haha-ha. His IQ dropped 20pts.
                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                  • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                    • 04-04-11
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                                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                    • seaborneq
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                                      • 09-08-06
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                      Haha-ha. His IQ dropped 20pts.
                                      IQ is now 20.
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                                      • seaborneq
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                                        • 09-08-06
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                                        #20
                                        Presbyterian has lost 5 straight games. On the wrong side of the madness now. Giving up way too many points by not punting.
                                        Last edited by seaborneq; 10-30-21, 09:36 AM.
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                                        • mjsuax13
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by seaborneq
                                          Presbyterian has lost 5 straight games. On the wrong side of the madness now. Giving up way too many points by bot punting
                                          Correct. They are buried. Look awful. Coach is a moron.
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                                          • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                            Correct. They are buried. Look awful. Coach is a moron.
                                            It's an interesting Game Theory question.

                                            I know the studies show that Punting is Negative EV. I really think it depends. If marginal, best to be Aggressive.

                                            Take the end-game of the BALT/KC game:

                                            *Collinsworth credited Harbaugh for having the guts to go for it on the 4th/2.

                                            My question: How do u NOT go for it there? Punting and giving the ball to Mahomes is terrible.

                                            In that case, I think you're 70% Winner by going for it. 70% Loser by Punting. So, the decision should be ez.
                                            Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                            • seaborneq
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                                              • 09-08-06
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by seaborneq
                                              When the smartest guy in the room gets his ass handed to him the look and tone will change. He will be on the wrong end of a lot of lopsided scores and go from genius to stupid pretty quickly.
                                              Just as I suspected. It took less than half a season.
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                                              • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by seaborneq
                                                Just as I suspected. It took less than half a season.

                                                Very interesting, Seaborne. Do u think PRES wins today?
                                                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                • Mr KLC
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                                                  #25
                                                  Watching some of this game out of pure curiosity. Tried for it on 4th and 6 on their own 16 and made it. Tried for it on 4th and 8 on their own 32 and no good. Already down 14-0.
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                                                  • Mr KLC
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                                                    #26
                                                    Stetson missed a FG so they dodged that bullet.
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                                                    • kidcudi92
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                                                      • 12-14-11
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                                                      #27
                                                      Badass
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                                                      • seaborneq
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                        Very interesting, Seaborne. Do u think PRES wins today?
                                                        I don’t think they win anymore this season. You can’t score every single time you have the ball and you can’t stop the opponent every time they have the ball, so onside kicks and going on 4th down ALL the time when the opponent knows its coming just gives them(opponent)more possessions and less possessions for Presbyterian. Can’t win consistently having fewer possessions and giving the opponent short fields.
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                                                        • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                          Salud, SEA. I asked this b/c there was a Small-coll line up today. Believe it or not, they were Favored. -3.5.
                                                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                          • seaborneq
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                            Salud, SEA. I asked this b/c there was a Small-coll line up today. Believe it or not, they were Favored. -3.5.
                                                            Presbyterian must be playing a high school team if they are favored. Presbyterian has been getting their backs blown out and doors blown off the last 5 games.
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                                                            • JacketFan81
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                                                              #31
                                                              62-14 to Stetson lol. This experiment is over.
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                                                              • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by seaborneq
                                                                Presbyterian must be playing a high school team if they are favored. Presbyterian has been getting their backs blown out and doors blown off the last 5 games.
                                                                Ya, they were playing the Stetson HATS. Was wondering if anyone was betting against Pres.

                                                                They talk about all these Sims and Game Theory. I wonder how many pts HE was personally responsible for. At least 28 pts today, I'd think, if he's pulling that stupid-shit.
                                                                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Thing is, u CAN go for it on 4th/5 if u have decent players. If you're just throwing shit against the wall, u look dumb.
                                                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                  • JacketFan81
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Even when I play Madden, I punt lol
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                                                                    • seaborneq
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by JacketFan81
                                                                      Even when I play Madden, I punt lol
                                                                      At no competitive level can you do what Presbyterian is doing and win unless you are 10X better than your opponent or beating up on artificial intelligence.
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