[JIBBBY]

Florida!!!

[d2bets]

-130 lines. Just imagine most can't win with+100

The Florida plan sounds like it's going to be lame, but assuredly not all these states are lame. I promise you, the Illinois set of books has not been lame, with more books hopefully to come.

[butterpecan]

You guys need to compare lines game to game there’s no comparison offshore versus USA places you can’t compete BAS and Heritage that are offering such low juice


American books cannot afford low juice and bonuses in tremendous debt

I don't think most recreational gamblers play at heritage with reduced juice or BAS. They lose, reload, lose, reload. We just got legalized sports gambling in Virginia, betmgm is alright. but legalized sports betting has been pretty underwhelming overall.

[cincinnatikid513]

with florida nothing ever a done deal

[JoeCool20]

I don't think most recreational gamblers play at heritage with reduced juice or BAS. They lose, reload, lose, reload. We just got legalized sports gambling in Virginia, betmgm is alright. but legalized sports betting has been pretty underwhelming overall.

Yes it is just like well over half the people that go into these land based casinos. They aren't even going into the place to try to win money! Now yes most all of them have some pipe dream about hitting it big, but most goofballs are going there on a vacation or a getaway, or just to waste some damn time! Hell they hit 16 & make dumb ass bets with terrible odds OVER & OVER while they are there! So what in the hell is the average recreational gambler going to care about making a sports wager at -115 or -120 instead of -110? LOL They couldn't care less about getting the "best odds!!"

[lakerboy]

I have no idea what FLA's lines will be. Nor do I know if they will be "worse" than anywhere else's lines!
But I do know that as soon as one of these offshore places cheats you or steals your money for no reason, then ALL the -110's instead of -120's in the world won't mean a DAMN thing! States can't just cheat you or not pay you anytime they feel like it! How much is that "security" of your money worth? 5 million? LOL
North Carolina just opened their book too, but I don't have to go to FLA or NC, I can just drive over the TENN border and use Draftkings, or Bet MGM or whoever. My whole point is even if you give the offshore books the MOST benefit of the doubt you possibly can while doing the opposite for US State books, then what "normal recreational" gambler really cares about -115 instead of -105? They are going to lose any damn way, just like over 90% of all gamblers do! But look bro, I totally agree that this "long run" stuff and "shopping for best lines" is great if you plan on gambling and losing money for 20 or 30 years! I agree you will certainly "lose a little less" if you spend/waste time "line shopping" so you can save 5 or 8 dollars on every one out of 10 or 20 bets!

You are a smaller player I guess. 15 cent juice on several thousand dollar bets adds up over time.

[JoeCool20]

You are a smaller player I guess. 15 cent juice on several thousand dollar bets adds up over time.

No, I guess you are a smaller player. 15 cent juice on a million dollars worth of bets adds up huge over time!

(Now you have to do like I'm doing and say that you never said it didn't add up over time! So here goes! LOL)


In the first place, I certainly did not say that it DIDN'T "add up over time" in fact go back and look at my post, and I said it DID add up over time! So I don't even get your reply?


Then read even more of my post, once again I am talking about the "normal recreational gambler." And once again I will say that the average rec-gambler don't give a flying damn about -115 instead of -105 on his sports bet.

[hehfest]

No, I guess you are a smaller player. 15 cent juice on a million dollars worth of bets adds up huge over time!

(Now you have to do like I'm doing and say that you never said it didn't add up over time! So here goes! LOL)


In the first place, I certainly did not say that it DIDN'T "add up over time" in fact go back and look at my post, and I said it DID add up over time! So I don't even get your reply?


Then read even more of my post, once again I am talking about the "normal recreational gambler." And once again I will say that the average rec-gambler don't give a flying damn about -115 instead of -105 on his sports bet.

I get what you are saying. I see the lines at MGM and cringe a little. -150/+125 or something. This will affect a winner or a loser long term. It adds up relatively quickly. I never had problems offshore, but I worry about how many players will just auto-leave offshore for the states permanently. If that happens, then the coin could become unsafe offshore at some point. Hopefully not with the best books!

[lakerboy]

No, I guess you are a smaller player. 15 cent juice on a million dollars worth of bets adds up huge over time!

(Now you have to do like I'm doing and say that you never said it didn't add up over time! So here goes! LOL)


In the first place, I certainly did not say that it DIDN'T "add up over time" in fact go back and look at my post, and I said it DID add up over time! So I don't even get your reply?


Then read even more of my post, once again I am talking about the "normal recreational gambler." And once again I will say that the average rec-gambler don't give a flying damn about -115 instead of -105 on his sports bet.

Average recreational guy probably don't care you are right for the most part. Most just want some action for a game.

We got that part out of the way.

We are on sbr and most of us have been on here for some time and if we aren't trying to get the best juice what exactly have your learned being on here?

I'm not touting offshore but you have some concerns about getting paid from offshore. If you play at a good shop you will not have that issue.

Personally I am very reluctant to pay -115 and upwards on spread type bets.

Many times people myself included are about to tap out but make a run when we are scraping the barrel and get a nice payout. That's only because you have something left to scrape the barrel with from paying less juice.

Get into a hobby and try to at least put an effort at managing the money.

[JoeCool20]

I get what you are saying. I see the lines at MGM and cringe a little. -150/+125 or something. This will affect a winner or a loser long term. It adds up relatively quickly. I never had problems offshore, but I worry about how many players will just auto-leave offshore for the states permanently. If that happens, then the coin could become unsafe offshore at some point. Hopefully not with the best books!

Right! I'd say offshore gambling IS for people who know what they are doing and they ARE shopping for the lowest juice and shopping for that extra half point on EVERY possible bet that they can get it on! While these state books are just there to abstract all the money they possibly can from the recreational gambler while "tolerating" a few sharps in the mix!

[konck]

Seminoles dont give you anything Rick Scott took a massive payoff for the Seminole casino monopoly
DeathSantis is licking his chops it's his turn
The Seminole don't even give food or drink in the casinos lol look for the juice on NFL to be -115 or higher
There will be NO COMPETITION again and they will use that to the hilt
Very Sad day for the Florida sports gamblers

[JoeCool20]

Average recreational guy probably don't care you are right for the most part. Most just want some action for a game.

We got that part out of the way.

We are on sbr and most of us have been on here for some time and if we aren't trying to get the best juice what exactly have your learned being on here?

I'm not touting offshore but you have some concerns about getting paid from offshore. If you play at a good shop you will not have that issue.

Personally I am very reluctant to pay -115 and upwards on spread type bets.

Many times people myself included are about to tap out but make a run when we are scraping the barrel and get a nice payout. That's only because you have something left to scrape the barrel with from paying less juice.

Get into a hobby and try to at least put an effort at managing the money.

OK bro every time I make a post about RECREATIONAL gamblers, you then make a post about NON RECREATIONAL gamblers! Which I am not talking about!! I agree with every single bit of what you just posted! And I never said any of it wasn't true!

And no I don't gamble anymore like some others do on here! I let the dumb shit frustrate me for over 20 years trying to find "angles" and "steam" until I realized that I have never known a single soul who has even come CLOSE to being "Even" or up money over their lifetime of gambling. And if they say they haven't lost their ass over the years then they are lying about it!

So then I moved over to the stock market, where I MAKE money not LOSE money! And my long hours of studying aren't rendered totally useless by some 20 year old idiot fumbling, or committing a penalty, or missing a free throw.

But as soon as I saw that some places charged $5 for a stock trade while others charged $15 or more, then I immediately moved my money to the place that charged the lowest price! But it was because I was becoming a professional and it was because of my volume of trades. I HAD to save that money on all the trades that I was doing! Just like you HAVE to shop for the best line and best juice because you are trying to grind it out like a pro!

So now we are back to the only thing that I have ever said or ever tried to make clear! Which is some AMATEUR investor who wants to buy $50 worth of penny stocks don't give a flying damn if he pays a little extra to do so. And neither does the AMATEUR recreational gambler care if he pays -115 juice at a state book instead of -105 offshore.

Now bro, please don't get upset or take me as being ugly! But If you keep talking about NON recreational gamblers & what a "few extra dollars" of cheaper juice means to them, when you can plainly see that I AM talking about how paying a little extra juice doesn't mean a damn thing to vanilla recreational gamblers, then you aren't even talking to me! You should not even quote my previous posts above your comment, because you aren't even replying to what I am talking about!

Peace!

[BeatTheJerk]

Where did it say it would be -115 or higher ?

[JoeCool20]

Where did it say it would be -115 or higher ?

THANK YOU! I HAVE NO CLUE WHERE IT SAID THAT FLA Books would offer "worse" juice than offshore!!

But you can scroll up and see who started saying that on this thread! Hint: It wasn't me! LOL

[jjgold]

Losers here can care less about juice

They do not compare lines either

They have no understanding the massive difference between -105 on nba and -110 to -112 USA Books

It is very very sad

[capitalist pig]

Did I miss it or did it say nothing about mobile betting?

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Losers here can care less about juice

They do not compare lines either

They have no understanding the massive difference between -105 on nba and -110 to -112 USA Books

It is very very sad

Coach I use 3 books in NJ. BetMGM, BetTwinSpiris and Bet365. I will say some of the juice from 1 book to the other it crazy. Saw -125 lines on 365 but -150, -160 in others. I’d say all & all Bet365 has the better lines.

[Hman]

Did I miss it or did it say nothing about mobile betting?

I read somewhere it was mentioned.

And they will likely allow Fanduel and such.

Honestly who knows at this point.

Also read none of it may happen for months or years due to legal battles.

[butterpecan]

Coach I use 3 books in NJ. BetMGM, BetTwinSpiris and Bet365. I will say some of the juice from 1 book to the other it crazy. Saw -125 lines on 365 but -150, -160 in others. I’d say all & all Bet365 has the better lines.

Does Bet365 have video of games like they do in Europe? I am trying to find Tsipitas match at Barcelona open and zero luck

[floridagolfer]

It has to do with Amendment 3 thaht Disney, who is against legalized gambling in the state for obvious reasons, tricked the public into voting for, which says any expansion of gambling in the state, must be voted through/approved by the people first.

So those trying to make this happen & in favor of it, feel that sports betting is exempt since it is not casiono games, while those against argue the oppoiste.

Florida has been voting against most gambling for decades and this isn't a done deal. This most certainly will end up in court. Desantis is the most untrusting governor in America.

[capitalist pig]

I just watched a live interview with Desantis and he is sure this will stand up to any lawsuits. He also said the plan is to have this up and running before the upcoming football season. We will have a pretty good idea in May since they called a special legislative session just for this. 500 million a year to the state from the Indians for 30 years will persuade a lot of politicians to vote for this, it’s more about new casinos and new table games with sports wagering kinda just a add on is what it looks like to me

[Booya711]

Florida has been voting against most gambling for decades and this isn't a done deal. This most certainly will end up in court. Desantis is the most untrusting governor in America.

DeSantis is great....he doesn’t succumb to those liberals in the federal government...

[vividjohn45]

USC nobody wins you know this

File boy, when you file, where do you like it filed the most?

[asiagambler]

I thought Florida would be one of the last

[cincinnatikid513]

Coach I use 3 books in NJ. BetMGM, BetTwinSpiris and Bet365. I will say some of the juice from 1 book to the other it crazy. Saw -125 lines on 365 but -150, -160 in others. I’d say all & all Bet365 has the better lines.

i used think bet365 had good lines but i'm seeing terrible golf future odds from them and soccer juice is bs too,

[cincinnatikid513]

I thought Florida would be one of the last

utah will be last

we'll all be dead before utah gets sports betting

[MinnesotaFats]

utah will be last

we'll all be dead before utah gets sports betting

Don't count Minny out of this race

We still have 3.2% beer

[stake1]

I thought Florida would be one of the last

They have the best governor in USA right now. Guy is pro-freedom, pro-business, and pro-FUN

[asiagambler]

They have the best governor in USA right now. Guy is pro-freedom, pro-business, and pro-FUN

Indians control all things gambling though

[Hman]

They have the best governor in USA right now. Guy is pro-freedom, pro-business, and pro-FUN

Without a doubt

[BeatTheJerk]

Indians control all things gambling though

For a group of very wealthy people they don’t flaunt their riches at all down here in South Florida. They don’t stand out at all.

[d2bets]

They have the best governor in USA right now. Guy is pro-freedom, pro-business, and pro-FUN

Impressive sense of humor.

[JayLA]

Where did it say it would be -115 or higher ?

Not sure but i think it'll be that way at first. After while book will start offering less juice. It doesn't matter, we all know books will win long run.

Good for sports bettors in Florida.

[d2bets]

Not sure but i think it'll be that way at first. After while book will start offering less juice. It doesn't matter, we all know books will win long run.

Good for sports bettors in Florida.

If anything, it's usually the opposite. Good deals to start to draw you in. Then they have you and start trying to extract more.

Yes, books win in the long run, but that certainly doesn't mean that a smart bettor can't win.

[JayLA]

If anything, it's usually the opposite. Good deals to start to draw you in. Then they have you and start trying to extract more.

Yes, books win in the long run, but that certainly doesn't mean that a smart bettor can't win.

I dunno can't you find good lines now in recently legalized markets? Im assuming so. My logic is that legal books want to take offshore clients once they established themselves.

That's what has happened in other countries who have recently made sports betting legal. I really don't care either way. I just bet for fun