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  • jjgold
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    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Mets Gave 282 Hitter 340 Million????????????????????????????????
    Lindor

    28hrs a year
    282 average

    27 years old..a few years down the road 250, 19 hrs a year

    Mike Trout worth 100 million a year then
  • cincinnatikid513
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    • 11-23-17
    • 45360

    #2
    good signing
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    • jjgold
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      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      I know it’s a good fielder but where is he at 33 years old?
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      • pologq
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        • 10-07-12
        • 19899

        #4
        mets were stuck or the trade would be useless

        that is a lot of money for lindor's stats
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        • jjgold
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          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          over paid

          Mets fools
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          • pologq
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            • 10-07-12
            • 19899

            #6
            steve choen wanted to make a splash so he made the trade and knew he would have to overpay
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            • Chi_archie
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              • 07-22-08
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              #7
              Hamburger
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              • ThaTopMoron
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                • 04-30-10
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                #8
                MLB sucks

                he shouldn't be given max money for more than 4-5 years
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                • jjgold
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                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
                  MLB sucks

                  he shouldn't be given max money for more than 4-5 years
                  terrible move
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                  • Orbison
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                    • 09-07-20
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                    #10
                    Muts being the Muts
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                    • unde0087
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                      • 03-27-08
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                      #11
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                      • slayer14
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                        • 08-12-13
                        • 22010

                        #12
                        Mets have signed some of the worst sporting contracts ever
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                        • Orbison
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                          #13
                          0 for last 25
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                          • jjgold
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                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            Lol

                            No idea what they were thinking

                            Trout did More in 2 years than lindor all time
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                            • stake1
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                              • 12-19-18
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                              #15
                              But he has style: shoes, glove, hair
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                              • slayer14
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                                • 08-12-13
                                • 22010

                                #16
                                Got to give him 3 months at least before you can call him a bust contract
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                                • pologq
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                                  • 10-07-12
                                  • 19899

                                  #17
                                  this would be hilarious if lindor is a bust
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                                  • big joe 1212
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                                    • 06-01-08
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                                    #18
                                    They finally open the books and this is what they get????
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                                    • cincinnatikid513
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                                      • 11-23-17
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                                      #19
                                      harper suked 1st year signing mega deal with philly
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                                      • beantown34
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                                        • 12-31-13
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                                        #20
                                        easy out
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                                        • jjgold
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                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #21
                                          Big time Hitters have very little impact on games

                                          Pitching always wins not hitting
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                                          • unde0087
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                                            • 03-27-08
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                                            #22


                                            Raking
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                                            • Headsterx
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                                              • 12-03-16
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                                              #23
                                              Bobby Bonilla: meh
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                                              • eidolon
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                                                • 01-02-08
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                                                #24
                                                10 years/$341M (2022-31)
                                                signed extension with NY Mets 4/5/21
                                                $21M signing bonus
                                                22-31:$32M annually
                                                $50M ($5M in salary each year) is deferred, to be paid 2032-41
                                                limited no-trade protection allowing Lindor to black deals to 15 clubs (may block all trades after 2025 season as 10-and-5 player)
                                                award bonuses: $50,000 each for LCS MVP, All Star, Gold Glove, Silver Slugger. $50,000 for MVP ($25,000 for second place in vote, $10,000 for third). $100,000 for WS MVP.
                                                perks: hotel suite on road trips. Right to buy four premium tickets and luxury suite for all regular season and postseason home games
                                                milestones: largest-ever contract for a shortstop, third-most lucrative contract for any player
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                                                • stevenash
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                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                  • 65394

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by stake1
                                                  But he has style: shoes, glove, hair
                                                  Lindor has no drawing power.

                                                  What's the fourteen words you never hear from a Little Leaguer?

                                                  "Hey dad? Lindor is in town. Can we go to the Mets game tonight?

                                                  Even before Ohtani came to the Angels, I would try to make it a point to watch Trout play when the Angels came to either Yankee Stadium or Fenway Park.

                                                  Now that Ohtani is with the Angles, that's a must see.
                                                  If you can get a ticket.
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                                                  • unde0087
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                                                    • 03-27-08
                                                    • 28899

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                                    Lindor has no drawing power.

                                                    What's the fourteen words you never hear from a Little Leaguer?

                                                    "Hey dad? Lindor is in town. Can we go to the Mets game tonight?

                                                    Even before Ohtani came to the Angels, I would try to make it a point to watch Trout play when the Angels came to either Yankee Stadium or Fenway Park.

                                                    Now that Ohtani is with the Angles, that's a must see.
                                                    If you can get a ticket.
                                                    You are right nash, but he has some RBI power...............
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                                                    • stevenash
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                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65394

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by unde0087
                                                      You are right nash, but he has some RBI power...............
                                                      Considering he hits in the three hole in front of Alonso, and Canha's high OBA from leadoff, Lindor better drive in runs.
                                                      If Canha gets on base, which he does quite frequently (.375) pitchers have no choice but to come in to Lindor or face two on with Alfonso coming to the plate.

                                                      Not that it mattered as the Mets won in a laugher. but Lindor could have had eight RBI, Canha in front of him was four for five.

                                                      I have to give Lindor props for that 2016 season in Cleveland.
                                                      He drove in 92 that year from leadoff which is very difficult to do.

                                                      Only two leadoff batters drove in 100 or more runs in a season, that being Blackmon (103) who did most of his damage playing 80 games at Coors, and that Nebraska Cornhusker punter Erstad for the Angels in 2000

                                                      Both teams had stacked lineups, everybody knows about those Rockies hitters, people forget in 2000 the Angels had four everyday batters that drove in 100 or more. (Mo Vaughn, Erstad, Garrett Anderson, and Troy Glaus.
                                                      And Adam Kennedy hit .300 batting behind Erstand and in front of Vaughn.

                                                      It's easier when your leadoff (Erstad) gets on for an Adam Kennedy to bat .300.
                                                      You have no choice but to pitch to Kennedy with Erstad on base, or run the risk of facing Vaughn, or Troy Glaus, or Gattett Anderson.

                                                      Scioscia had the ideal text book lineup.

                                                      He knew twenty years before I was preaching the perfect lineup is have your OBA guy bat leadoff, your best stickman batting second that can play hit and run ( a lost art these days) that can move the runner from first to third, just put your leadoff man in motion, have your stickman shoot one though the hole that the middle infielder created because he had to cover second with the man in motion.

                                                      Now you're set up, first and third no outs, stack the middle of the order with power guys, and Scioscia did just that with Vaughn, Glaus, and Anderson, next thing you know it's 5-0 in the first inning 20 seconds after you sat your ass in the seat.

                                                      You have a lineup like that, you can bat a .220 slick fielding SS eighth.
                                                      You can give up .80 in batting average if you have a SS (or 2B) that plays gold glove defense that can turn two.
                                                      A good up the middle defense makes an ordinary pitcher good, a good pitcher great.

                                                      A good up the middle defense can save your pitchers two runs a game.

                                                      How do you think the 1984 Tigers won the championship by lapping the filed?
                                                      They had one of the best up the middle defenses of my generation.
                                                      Parrish, Whitaker, and Trammell all won gold in 1984, and Chet Lemon should have also in CF but got ripped off.
                                                      Ask Dan Petry and Milt Wilcox if the appreciated those four?

                                                      Earl Weaver used to trot out a .220 batter to SS everyday. Mark Belanger.
                                                      Belanger couldn't hit for shit, but ask Jim Palmer and Dave McNally how many runs Brooks and Belanger saved them.
                                                      What does it matter when you got guys like Boog in the middle anyway,

                                                      Too bad in 2000 the pitching didn't step up, you can score seven a game, but if you give up eight, well do the math.

                                                      Proving good pitching usually beat good hitting, in 2002 the Angels won in all, but the lineup was not nearly as potent with Vaughn gone.
                                                      In 2002 the only batters who did anything were Glaus and Anderson.
                                                      But in 2002 Angels had three starters who won fourteen games or more (name two out of three and win valuable prizes) and Troy Percival saving 40 games.
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                                                      • unde0087
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                                                        • 03-27-08
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                                                        #28
                                                        i don't read novels, guy is raking with Alonso, and everyone else. I will take it knowing two of the best pitchers in the game aren't even pitching. All I know is Mets be hitting and especially absolutely destroying bullpens. If the Mets get to a pen they hammer the shit out of them. No team scores more runs in late innings. Sup
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                                                        • stevenash
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                                                          • 01-17-11
                                                          • 65394

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by unde0087
                                                          i don't read novels, guy is raking with Alonso, and everyone else. I will take it knowing two of the best pitchers in the game aren't even pitching. All I know is Mets be hitting and especially absolutely destroying bullpens. If the Mets get to a pen they hammer the shit out of them. No team scores more runs in late innings. Sup
                                                          Buck knows what he's doing with his personnel.
                                                          Buck's to anal for my tastes, but Buck knows baseball.

                                                          The post above yours is pretty much the stuff I blog.
                                                          I'm analytics guy.
                                                          Boring? Maybe.
                                                          But I've always had a thing for numbers, it's in my DNA, got it from my dad.
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                                                          • jjgold
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                                                            • 07-20-05
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                                                            #30
                                                            Mets clinched already June 1

                                                            Bad for baseball interest
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                                                            • stevenash
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                                                              • 01-17-11
                                                              • 65394

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                                              Mets clinched already June 1

                                                              Bad for baseball interest

                                                              Mers have a 97 percent chance of making the playoffs.
                                                              But only a seven percent chance to win the World Series.

                                                              Dodgers are pretty much odds on.
                                                              Yankees are second favorite.







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                                                              • TheLock
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                                                                • 04-06-08
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                                                                #32
                                                                Batting Average was a good stat 40 years ago
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                                                                • stevenash
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                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 65394

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by TheLock
                                                                  Batting Average was a good stat 40 years ago
                                                                  I'm still big on OBA, others have moved on to OPS and I get their argument 100 percent.
                                                                  But give me a high on base guy any day over a guy who pops 38 taters but strikes out 180 times that hits .240

                                                                  What they taught you as an eight year old Little Leaguer still holds true today, that is a walk is as good as a hit.
                                                                  You can't score a run unless you get on base. Simple.

                                                                  Nothing drives a pitching coach and manager more bat shit crazy than his pitcher giving up a walk.
                                                                  John Franco was notorious for walking a batter or two before wiggling out of it in the ninth.
                                                                  Don Stanhouse was a spot starter/long reliever before he was traded over to Baltimore.
                                                                  He was their closer for a couple years, anyway, Earl Weaver nicknamed Stanhouse "Full Pack" because it took twenty minutes for Stanhouse to complete an inning driving Weaver to smoke a 'full pack'

                                                                  Managers would rather see a closer give up a solo homer than issue two walks in the ninth inning.
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #34
                                                                    if you watch baseball for more than 30 minutes a day your an epic loser
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                                                                    • stevenash
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                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65394

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                      if you watch baseball for more than 30 minutes a day your an epic loser
                                                                      And if you have more than 385.000 posts on a dopey message board you're a bigger loser.
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