Ruth, Jordan, Brady or Gretzky

**Regul8er** · 03-10-21, 09:59 AM

We never saw Ruth, so lets scratch him off the list.

Honestly, Id say Gretzky. Guy was a beanpole, played in the dirty ages of the sport, and was completely unstoppable. He had eyes in the back of his head, and was always in the right spot, it was truly amazing.

**Bcatswin** · 03-10-21, 10:03 AM

No Mantle thoughts? But agree with l8er and im not even a huge hockey fan.

**Chi_archie** · 03-10-21, 10:05 AM

we never saw Ruth

but the fact that he changed the game so incredibly and would hit more homeruns than multiple combined teams team totals is nuts

add to that, that he would have been a hall of famer had he stuck with Pitching and he still holds pitching records

2.28 ERA and 94 wins over 1200 innings is better than 98% of all starting pitchers of all time

**Jayvegas420** · 03-10-21, 10:06 AM

I’m on board with regulator

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**pologq** · 03-10-21, 10:07 AM

pure numbers gretzky's stats are nuts

**mjsuax13** · 03-10-21, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

Who was the most dominant in their respective sport?

Not looking for the strongest or most athletic.
Career length & era are factors but, overall who do you believe dominated the league more when they played?

Michael Jordan. After they got through the Pistons he not only dominated the game, dominated the headline, dominated the globe, etc... Mike was must see TV.

Don’t know much about Ruth other than what I’ve read. Gretzky certainly best ever in hockey and Brady obviously is the GOAT QB.

Mike changed the entire way the game is played which frankly led us to how protected stars are now. On the marketing side- everyone in sports should pay him a commission for what they receive via endorsements. Good thread.

**Jayvegas420** · 03-10-21, 11:18 AM

**Jayvegas420** · 03-10-21, 11:20 AM

now on board with saux13....going to watch The Last Dance again

check in later

**mjsuax13** · 03-10-21, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

Shit man. Great post. Digging into Gretzky a bit too. We are all very lucky to have witnessed this. I was too young for Edmonton Wayne though.

**Jayvegas420** · 03-10-21, 11:34 AM

I doubt there’d be an NHL outside the northern states & southern ontario if Wayne hadn’t made the move to L.A.

**pimike** · 03-10-21, 11:35 AM

Brady

With what he can do at his old age is just amazing.

Gretzky retired at the age of 38.

So Brady in my time.

As several has said, we didn’t see MR. Ruth.

**Jayvegas420** · 03-10-21, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by pimike

Brady

With what he can do at his old age is just amazing.

Gretzky retired at the age of 38.

So Nrady in my time.

As many said we did see MR. Ruth.

How old are you Mikey?

**mjsuax13** · 03-10-21, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by pimike

Brady

With what he can do at his old age is just amazing.

Gretzky retired at the age of 38.

So Brady in my time.

As several has said, we didn’t see MR. Ruth.

Brady really showing what nutrition and total commitment can do for a career. Jordan was smoking cigars, drinking beers, ripping up Vegas, etc... Wayne- not sure if he was a womanizer maniac. Ruth- hell, we know those guys were hard living. We've witnessed some great players. Born in 1979 here.

**pimike** · 03-10-21, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

How old are you Mikey?

Lol

Just woke up...

**DrunkHorseplayer** · 03-10-21, 11:50 AM

Lemieux was better than Gretzky, Manning was better than Brady and Jordan was dominant but Ruth revolutionized the game itself. Before Ruth showed up, swinging for the fences was taboo; the strategy was "hit 'em where they aint." Ruth impacted his sport like no one else.

**pimike** · 03-10-21, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by mjsuax13

Brady really showing what nutrition and total commitment can do for a career. Jordan was smoking cigars, drinking beers, ripping up Vegas, etc... Wayne- not sure if he was a womanizer maniac. Ruth- hell, we know those guys were hard living. We've witnessed some great players. Born in 1979 here.

So true. Yes things were different back in the day.

Jordon was an animal. However he was fit. Make no mistake about it.

Babe was raw talent with out the meds and exercise put into it as of today.

So I say now big Babe was the man.

Even though I WAS NOT Around.

Lol

**pimike** · 03-10-21, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer

Lemieux was better than Gretzky, Manning was better than Brady and Jordan was dominant but Ruth revolutionized the game itself. Before Ruth showed up, swinging for the fences was taboo; the strategy was "hit 'em where they aint." Ruth impacted his sport like no one else.

Agree

Good post!

**themike78** · 03-10-21, 11:56 AM

Gretzky was most dominant. 215 points in 1 season will never be broken. Most players don't get that many points in their entire career. Also 92 goals in 1 season. And he put up those numbers year after year.

**TommieGunshot** · 03-10-21, 11:58 AM

Ruth dominated more than any other team sport athlete in history. But that says as much about his peers and athletic competition from 100 years ago as it does about his own abilities.

**beefcake** · 03-10-21, 11:59 AM

Not even a mention of Jim Thorpe..Guy was dominant in MULTIPLE sports..

**Jayvegas420** · 03-10-21, 12:01 PM

Exactly right Tommy gun, that’s why I mentioned era, drunken horse player makes a good point about career longevity when he mentions Mario Lemieux

**jjgold** · 03-10-21, 12:02 PM

Brady by far

Longevity and wins

**Jayvegas420** · 03-10-21, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by beefcake

Not even a mention of Jim Thorpe..Guy was dominant in MULTIPLE sports..

THIS is why I didn’t do greatest athlete of all time..

**Chi_archie** · 03-10-21, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by beefcake

Not even a mention of Jim Thorpe..Guy was dominant in MULTIPLE sports..

He was not dominant in any professional sport

he was very very good to above average in multiple sports as an amateur

he was a shitty Pro baseball player

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**ChuckyTheGoat** · 03-10-21, 12:46 PM

Jay...the answer is Gretzky.

Remember the "baseball-swing" goal that Wayne scored as a King?

Gretzky separated himself from the pack. No one can compare. As an offensive threat, Mario is the only guy that comes close...and Mario had too many injuries.

In the other sports, there is at least some argument. IE:
*Ted Williams MAY HAVE been a better pure hitter than Babe Ruth, once u adjust for war time missed.
*Some QBs are on Brady's level for career achievement and performance. Just can't match the rings.
*Jordan had a great sidekick in Pippen. COULD HAVE been 4 rings (not 6), but for a few key plays.

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 03-10-21, 12:47 PM

Jay, I have a follow-up Q for you:

*What about BEST NHL DEFENSEMAN EVER?

This is one that gets answered quickly. Bobby Orr. Everyone else is fighting for #2.

**mngambler** · 03-10-21, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by pologq

pure numbers gretzky's stats are nuts

this...if you're basing 'dominance' on career stats than it's Gretzky and IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE

**Jayvegas420** · 03-10-21, 12:54 PM

Agreed Chuckles.....how about this one: best record in sports

Joltin Joe 100%

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 03-10-21, 01:10 PM

C'mon man, Wilt Chamberlain was the most dominant athlete ever.
Who else had more rules changed than Chamberlain?
He was so dominant, they had to change the rules, not once or twice but 5 times.

**HockeyRocks** · 03-10-21, 01:12 PM

Brady..

**Jayvegas420** · 03-10-21, 01:45 PM

Does Wilt compare stats-wise, though

**johnnyvegas13** · 03-10-21, 01:53 PM

Nobody here has seen Ruth play besides the grainy footage were he points his home run

**asiagambler** · 03-10-21, 04:06 PM

Brady won 7 titles but only 5 Super Bowl MVPs so he was not as dominant as Jordan who won 6 titles 6 Finals MVPs even while taking a year or two off during his prime

I think Lawrence Taylor dominated and impacted football more than Brady

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 03-10-21, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

Does Wilt compare stats-wise, though

You mean number of rings? Number of rings doesn't represent dominance though.

It's a team sport and if you don't have a supporting cast, no matter how "dominant" you are, you can't win it all... Just ask Barkley