Players go on a run past posting at MGM sportsbook

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  • DISTROYA
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    • 04-26-12
    • 2911

    #1
    Players go on a run past posting at MGM sportsbook
    Chinese baseball about 50 tickets cashed past posting about an hour into the games. Gaming board is investigating but what exactly do they investigate aren't the bets paid out already? Or are they holding tickets pending investigation?. Article said some guy put a 10 team parlay for $250 that paid over $135000. I can't believe a sports book would allow that payout.
  • DISTROYA
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    • 04-26-12
    • 2911

    #2
    Once there was a player prop in baseball if hit a home run; game was already over and he hit a HR so placed it for 250 max book limit and hit like 450 bucks. The book didn't take it off until 3 hours after the start they put the wrong time zone for the game start...but oddly just on prop.
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    • capitalist pig
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      • 01-25-07
      • 4996

      #3
      I believe the wagers were paid out,by the wording in the first sentence of the article, kudos to the books for paying on wagers where the books posted bad lines, we know what would happen offshore

      later

      LAS VEGAS — The nearly quarter-million dollars in winning wagers reportedly placed at MGM Resorts last Sunday might be the largest sportsbook loss in Las Vegas history on bets made after an event has started.

      Seven longtime Las Vegas bookmakers can’t recall a larger loss, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reports. But each oddsmaker has taken hits on past posts and said it’s a fairly common occurrence at books.

      According to an ESPN report, Sunday’s bets were allowed to be placed because incorrect start times were posted on some Korean and Chinese baseball games due to a manual entry error.

      Nearly all of the approximately 50 wagers were placed on self-serve kiosks at the Bellagio between 1:30 a.m. and 3 a.m. when the games in question started at 1 a.m. and 2 a.m.

      Among the bets was a $250, 10-leg parlay that paid more than $137,100.

      The Nevada Gaming Control Board is reportedly investigating the matter. Anytime there is a dispute in excess of $500, the state’s books are required to contact the board, which conducts an investigation and makes a ruling the books must abide by.

      “It’s happened to all of us,” Westgate sportsbook director John Murray said. “I think every sportsbook probably since the beginning of time has dealt with this at some point.

      “We’ve had past post situations where our employees put in the wrong time or put in the wrong number or they forgot to close something. It’s manual entry and humans are going to make mistakes.”

      Robert Walker, USBookmaking director of sportsbook operations, is still haunted by getting past-posted during his tenure as MGM Resorts sportsbook director from 1996-2008.

      “I still haven’t gotten over some mistakes I made at The Mirage 20 years ago,” he said. “There’s no worse feeling than when you see a bet come across on a game that’s already started.

      “There’s no worse feeling than when you see a bet come across on a game that’s already started."
      — Robert Walker, USBookmaking director of sportsbook operations

      “I got lit up on some halftimes before. If you don’t manually close out the halftime line, they keep betting it and that’s what they did.”

      Walker said a college football bettor once placed a $3,000 halftime wager on Louisiana State late in the fourth quarter, when the bet couldn’t lose.

      “Once I saw that bet come across the ticker in the fourth quarter, I was mortified,” he said

      The sportsbook locked out the ticket from cashing while Walker went to the MGM Grand to explain his mistake to the bettor.

      “He gave me the story that they didn’t know and they were LSU fans. But yet you’re watching the game,” he said. “But it was 100% my fault. They were guests of the casino, so at that point I sided with them and it was a mistake we had to eat.”
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      • Bcatswin
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-21-10
        • 13931

        #4
        Didn't this happen last week er something as well. Or same report?
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        • johnnyvegas13
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          • 05-21-15
          • 27835

          #5
          How did this lead to a ten teamer

          did guy use this gm to close out a big parlay?
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82506

            #6
            Check the security cameras. Wouldn't be surprised if Fishhead is involved with this scam.
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            • capitalist pig
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              • 01-25-07
              • 4996

              #7
              Originally posted by Bcatswin
              Didn't this happen last week er something as well. Or same report?
              Last Sunday I believe

              later
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              • Wrongside
                SBR MVP
                • 09-26-15
                • 3579

                #8
                So they still have to pay on these tickets? Like the guy mentioned re: the LSU bet. Man, online books have it really good.
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82506

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Wrongside
                  So they still have to pay on these tickets? Like the guy mentioned re: the LSU bet. Man, online books have it really good.
                  Because if they don't pay them they have to also refund all the bets that lost and were past post. A lot of players didn't know the time the games were played.
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                  • lonegambler23
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                    • 06-22-16
                    • 9761

                    #10
                    vegas dave
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                    • TheMetsSuck
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                      • 01-14-12
                      • 6149

                      #11
                      Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                      How did this lead to a ten teamer

                      did guy use this gm to close out a big parlay?
                      All the games were in the 7th inning or so. Just picked the blowouts/totals with them
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                      • johnnyvegas13
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                        • 05-21-15
                        • 27835

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                        All the games were in the 7th inning or so. Just picked the blowouts/totals with them
                        so he just started from scratch and parlayed the innings ?
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                        • lonegambler23
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                          • 06-22-16
                          • 9761

                          #13
                          wow they should be banned for life
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                          • temple2010
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                            • 03-16-10
                            • 1369

                            #14
                            Vegas casino worried about $250,000??? They'll make that back so quickly it's laughable- and it's funny it happened on the ultra juiced up asian baseball league lines! Karma is a real motherfuker!!
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                            • johnnyvegas13
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                              • 05-21-15
                              • 27835

                              #15
                              If u trued this offshore u get banned
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                              • SBR_Guest_Pro
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                                • 02-10-15
                                • 3955

                                #16
                                Old news. Some one already posted about this last week
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                                • clockwise1965
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                                  • 10-01-13
                                  • 6753

                                  #17
                                  Good. Take them for every dime.
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                                  • pologq
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                                    • 10-07-12
                                    • 19899

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by clockwise1965
                                    Good. Take them for every dime.
                                    my reaction exactly. they are out to screw you any which way they can. nice when the player gets over.
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                                    • johnnyvegas13
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                                      • 05-21-15
                                      • 27835

                                      #19
                                      I remember during football last yr on dk or FanDuel someone took a crazy bad live line and got payed

                                      seems only offshore will not honor
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                                      • DISTROYA
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-26-12
                                        • 2911

                                        #20
                                        amazes me they would payout the 10 team parlay when clearly games have started. I know its books error and love it when players tick it to them but seems odd to me they would just payout 137k just like that for a guy who prob bet all 10 overs that already were. Dont they have a stipulation/rule that says they have the right to cancel?
                                        Temple 250k for casinos/books nowadays is like 2.5 million I'm sure due to the virus and virtually non-existent sports betting, sans horses
                                        sbr guest pro...sorry bro I dont comb through each thread sorry for the double post on the article/news.
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                                        • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                          • 04-04-11
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                                          #21
                                          Somebody will surely lose their job over this. At least 2 or 3 procedural errors:

                                          1) Bets placed. Computer didn't pick up on fact that games started. I will say that a Sharp shop like Olympic used to let late-posts, if they felt no edge gained yet.

                                          2) Accounting didn't pick up on bet-time vs start-time?

                                          3) Clerks didn't see anything fishy on the payouts. Above certain $ amt, they normally say "Awaiting confirmation."

                                          I understand it. But this is a bad error.
                                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                          • TommieGunshot
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                                            • 03-27-12
                                            • 1586

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DISTROYA
                                            amazes me they would payout the 10 team parlay when clearly games have started. I know its books error and love it when players tick it to them but seems odd to me they would just payout 137k just like that for a guy who prob bet all 10 overs that already were.
                                            Most (if not all) of the wagers were still unresolved. I made a couple bets this year with Las Vegas sportsbooks after the event had started. Bet an esports team to win a best two-out-of-three after they already won the first; bet Ovechkin not to score a goal when the game was near the end of the second period. Both bets lost and neither were refunded. If the book is allowed to cancel these wagers, that means they were the ones who took a bet knowing they couldn't lose.

                                            Originally posted by DISTROYA
                                            Dont they have a stipulation/rule that says they have the right to cancel?
                                            Not sure of MGM, but every place I've checked have a rule that says all tickets go as written.
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                                            • Optional
                                              Administrator
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 60829

                                              #23
                                              Got to love Vegas rules
                                              .
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                                              • TommieGunshot
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                                                • 03-27-12
                                                • 1586

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Optional
                                                Got to love Vegas rules
                                                Rules like honoring bets. Crazy to think there are places where sportsbooks have rules that are different.
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                                                • johnnyvegas13
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                                                  • 05-21-15
                                                  • 27835

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                  Somebody will surely lose their job over this. At least 2 or 3 procedural errors:

                                                  1) Bets placed. Computer didn't pick up on fact that games started. I will say that a Sharp shop like Olympic used to let late-posts, if they felt no edge gained yet.

                                                  2) Accounting didn't pick up on bet-time vs start-time?

                                                  3) Clerks didn't see anything fishy on the payouts. Above certain $ amt, they normally say "Awaiting confirmation."

                                                  I understand it. But this is a bad error.
                                                  not just for one gm either

                                                  they left the whole card open hence the parlay
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