MLB vote going on right now

**johnnyvegas13** · 06-22-20, 04:58 PM

Good

**Bcatswin** · 06-22-20, 05:00 PM

Just in. Players vote it down

**Brock Landers** · 06-22-20, 05:01 PM

F uck baseball

NEVER play again

**johnnyvegas13** · 06-22-20, 05:03 PM

Wow this might b the end

**Bcatswin** · 06-22-20, 05:04 PM

https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/1275186741243150338?s=20

And the dominoes are now likely set to tumble:1. Implementation of a short season by MLB2. Some players choosing not to play.3. PA grievance4. Upcoming free agents get destroyed in market5. All major labor issues merely deferred to next spring.Mutually assured destruction.

**lakerboy** · 06-22-20, 05:04 PM

Lmao

**JMobile** · 06-22-20, 05:06 PM

Put Kershaw on the mound.

**stackz125** · 06-22-20, 05:06 PM

Who cares. Baseball is trash now anyways. They ruined the sport.

**Mr KLC** · 06-22-20, 05:10 PM

MLB had a chance to make the game better. It had a chance to unite the country. It had a chance to gain the attention of sports fans around the world.

Instead, the players and owners got into a petty pissing match and did potential irreparable harm to a great sport.

**EasyCover** · 06-22-20, 05:11 PM

Players are probably scared of the unknown long term effects of Covid 19. They are taking ask the risks while the owners can wear a mask and socially distance as well as being cheap. Can't blame them. Season probably wouldn't finish due to the "Rona"anyways.

**Emily_Haines** · 06-22-20, 05:11 PM

fuk mlb

**Art Vandelay** · 06-22-20, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by Mr KLC

MLB had a chance to make the game better. It had a chance to unite the country. It had a chance to gain the attention of sports fans around the world.

Instead, the players and owners got into a petty pissing match and did potential irreparable harm to a great sport.

Well said KLC. Nighty-night to 2020 bases...

**Bcatswin** · 06-22-20, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Mr KLC

MLB had a chance to make the game better. It had a chance to unite the country. It had a chance to gain the attention of sports fans around the world.

Instead, the players and owners got into a petty pissing match and did potential irreparable harm to a great sport.

**lonegambler23** · 06-22-20, 05:16 PM

this is just so laughable. hope they never see another cent

**MinnesotaFats** · 06-22-20, 05:16 PM

The players will never agree w anything the owners propose since the collusion of 86/87.

This was DOA, not news. They had a shot w the FL/ AZ league st full money, that was it.

**cybersharp** · 06-22-20, 05:18 PM

Fans should start organizing NOW to impose their own penalties on this ridiculous sport:

Boycotts across both leagues. Goal: a 25% reduction in attendance across BOTH LEAGUES
throughout the whole 2021 season.

Maybe that will get their attention.

Boycott Spring Training too. It's largely a waste anyway.

REFUSE to purchase food, drinks or souvenirs at games we attend. No beer, no hot dogs...

Get creative people. This could be fun!

**cybersharp** · 06-22-20, 05:22 PM

Season tickets? Turn 'em in....or refuse to renew! Demand a 50% discount, and MEAN it.

You'll be surprised at how LESS arrogant (and cooperative) these player/owner fools will
get if their little economic Heaven is threatened...

**MinnesotaFats** · 06-22-20, 05:23 PM

Need sports leagues w no union and cheaper tickets.

The XFL would be great with 80s style rules and a few better qbs....no big money.

A 3rd pro league like the old Federal league or maybe independent leagues come back strong.

People need to realize the problem with unions in a monopoly...be it government or sports, they destroy everything because there is nothing to negotiate against.

They are unconstitutional

**Chi_archie** · 06-22-20, 05:26 PM

They still play though, right?

this way MLB players reserve the right to keep their grievences open and possibly get more $ down the road.

**lakerboy** · 06-22-20, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by cybersharp

Fans should start organizing NOW to impose their own penalties on this ridiculous sport:

Boycotts across both leagues. Goal: a 25% reduction in attendance across BOTH LEAGUES
throughout the whole 2021 season.

Maybe that will get their attention.

Boycott Spring Training too. It's largely a waste anyway.

REFUSE to purchase food, drinks or souvenirs at games we attend. No beer, no hot dogs...

Get creative people. This could be fun!

I'm done with baseball. I will never go to another game unless I start seeing player salaries going down

**MinnesotaFats** · 06-22-20, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

They still play though, right?

this way MLB players reserve the right to keep their grievences open and possibly get more $ down the road.

Owners can mandate 48 games at full money but no expanded playoffs...but they're still going to lose $500mm and players WILL NOT let them profit so why would owners do this? There's no money and as such salaries next year will drop dramatically and owners make more $$$

**johnnyvegas13** · 06-22-20, 05:35 PM

Fate of summer sports being decided right here

**EasyCover** · 06-22-20, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by MinnesotaFats

Need sports leagues w no union and cheaper tickets.

The XFL would be great with 80s style rules and a few better qbs....no big money.

Monopolies aren't so great either. So you want the players to have no rights and get the shaft.

NEWS FLASH!!

A 3rd pro league like the old Federal league or maybe independent leagues come back strong.

People need to realize the problem with unions in a monopoly...be it government or sports, they destroy everything because there is nothing to negotiate against.

They are unconstitutional

Monopolies aren't great either. So you want the players to have no rights and get the shaft.

NEWS FLASH. No one ever paid for a ticket to see the owners play.

**Mr KLC** · 06-22-20, 05:38 PM

“Just tell us where and when,” while catchy, was never about making a deal. It was about daring MLB to impose a season on the players ASAP so they could then file a grievance claiming the league didn’t make a good faith effort to schedule more games.

- Mark Zuckerman

**jjgold** · 06-22-20, 05:38 PM

Baseball is in serious trouble long term, it might fold and I hope so.

**stake1** · 06-22-20, 05:41 PM

Manfred will have no choice but to mandate the schedule. Union will file grievance. No games. Then a lockout next year

**johnnyvegas13** · 06-22-20, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by stake1

Manfred will have no choice but to mandate the schedule. Union will file grievance. No games. Then a lockout next year

That’s the part I don’t get

shouldn’t they b in better shape for next yr not worse

**stake1** · 06-22-20, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by johnnyvegas13

That’s the part I don’t get

shouldn’t they b in better shape for next yr not worse

2021 is last year of Cba. Owners are pissed at the union. I predict owners look to force the matter this winter, union will balk. There is no way a "legit" work stoppage isn't coming

**Mr KLC** · 06-22-20, 06:31 PM

If there’s going to be a fight the time for that fight is after the ‘21 season when a new CBA is negotiated. 5 years of potential change. We’re doing irreparable damage to our industry right now over rules that last AT MOST 16 months. WTF kind of sense does that make?

- Trevor Bauer

**MinnesotaFats** · 06-22-20, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by EasyCover

Monopolies aren't great either. So you want the players to have no rights and get the shaft.

NEWS FLASH. No one ever paid for a ticket to see the owners play.

Players have every right to go drive a beer truck, stock shelves or mow a lawn.

Was baseball so bad in the 50s and 60s??? Wasn't it nice when a trip to the ballpark w the family didn't demand a 5 hour game and a weeks pay....

Poor ole' players lol

Can find 700 cubans and dominicans to play the game for $500k / year and they'd still have a beer w ya after.

You're paying too much for the same product (if not lessor) than we got 10, 20, 40 years ago. That's the problem w monopoly unions....theres no constant to measure by.

**Bcatswin** · 06-22-20, 06:50 PM

It’s absolute death for this industry to keep acting as it has been. Both sides. We’re driving the bus straight off a cliff. How is this good for anyone involved? Covid 19 already presented a lose lose lose situation and we’ve somehow found a way to make it worse. Incredible.

More from Bauer.

**jjgold** · 06-22-20, 06:53 PM

nobody even cares anymore

I can tell even here most want them not to play

**stake1** · 06-22-20, 07:15 PM

And the dominoes are now likely set to tumble:
1. Implementation of a short season by MLB
2. Some players choosing not to play.
3. PA grievance
4. Upcoming free agents get destroyed in market
5. All major labor issues merely deferred to next spring.Mutually assured destruction.

Buster Olney

**Chi_archie** · 06-22-20, 07:24 PM

One of the player's demands is that no broadcaster ever again refer to a pitcher throwing strikes on the corners as

"Painting the black"

THAT'S RACIST!