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    Russia is not the enemy, there are far more dangerous interests that are already in our congress, compared to the great world leaders Vladimir Putin. We call them countrymen or leaders but many are in fact "dual citizens" and don't have real allegiance to anything but power (or in many cases, Israel).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    We have no choice

    The ONLY thing standing in the way of the ENTIRE WORLD being ruled by China & Russia is.......US

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    I think it was Putin's first ever American interview, towards the end he was jokingly asked if he would ever consider invading the U.S.. He laughed and said anyone would be crazy to try it because the real war would be with the civilians.
    That was a real quick turn-around you made. We absolutely always have a choice in how much money we waste. Draft every healthy 18-year-old into the military, send them home four years later with training and a rifle. National defense improves and cost goes way down.

    People don't want a draft, because we have too many snowflakes who never put on a uniform. Make it an opt-out system, rather than opt-in and that would go a long way improving defense and decreasing spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    Russia is not the enemy, there are far more dangerous interests that are already in our congress, compared to the great world leaders Vladimir Putin. We call them countrymen or leaders but many are in fact "dual citizens" and don't have real allegiance to anything but power (or in many cases, Israel).
    Majority of people who make complaints like this will be voting for the incumbent in November. This ideology shows that America is not Great Again; this means America is destroying itself. The half-trillion per year spending on the military does nothing to protect us. It mostly hurts us and makes us weaker by adding so much to our national debt -- which we then owe to the rest of the world.

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    Imagine being so mad at a foreign nation.

    You crash a lambo worth more than $100,000 into their hills, buildings or terrain. That's how much $$ the missiles drones fire are worth.

    That's how the US military wages "war" in this day and age.

    The only thing it does is inflate the deficit and guarantee america will go bankrupt long before they achieve anything of value.

    More than $12 trillion dollars lit on fire and burned on war in the middle east. With absolutely nothing to show for it.

    There's nothing to brag about as far as the US military goes.

    Its a giant money pit and corporate welfare program for lockheed martin and other defense contractors producing garbage.

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    This is why we have the trident submarines. Even if mainland is struck we will fully be able to strike back with what ever is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    That was a real quick turn-around you made. We absolutely always have a choice in how much money we waste. Draft every healthy 18-year-old into the military, send them home four years later with training and a rifle. National defense improves and cost goes way down.

    People don't want a draft, because we have too many snowflakes who never put on a uniform. Make it an opt-out system, rather than opt-in and that would go a long way improving defense and decreasing spending.
    This also has its downsides. Israel does this... People think Hamas suicide bombers are trying to cause fear? Every Israeli is a trained soldier. They are just fighting with what they have. Hard Pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    That was a real quick turn-around you made. We absolutely always have a choice in how much money we waste. Draft every healthy 18-year-old into the military, send them home four years later with training and a rifle. National defense improves and cost goes way down.
    Cost of labor/manpower isn't a reason why defense spending is expensive.

    Try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity Check View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    That was a real quick turn-around you made. We absolutely always have a choice in how much money we waste. Draft every healthy 18-year-old into the military, send them home four years later with training and a rifle. National defense improves and cost goes way down.
    Cost of labor/manpower isn't a reason why defense spending is expensive.

    Try again.
    The cost of a service member is about $100,000 per year and is an investment in our own people. The half-trillion spent on the military keeps us in debt to the rest of the world and gives them an easy way to overtake us as a world power. Obviously that's what people in the US want, because we keep insisting the government go further and further into debt to fund the military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    And you don't think we could do the same and even more successfully??
    i don't think we could get both of them (china and russia) fully. they claim to be more prepared than we are for that. we wouldn't do it as it would affect our pacific allies and europe.

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    China/Russia/USA anyone of them can blow each other off the map. A war between any of them you don't to want to see happen. They'll be nothing left in the end on either side..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    The cost of a service member is about $100,000 per year and is an investment in our own people. The half-trillion spent on the military keeps us in debt to the rest of the world and gives them an easy way to overtake us as a world power. Obviously that's what people in the US want, because we keep insisting the government go further and further into debt to fund the military.

    A high percentage of current US military are on food stamps to afford food.

    Cost of labor/manpower is not the problem here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    The cost of a service member is about $100,000 per year and is an investment in our own people. The half-trillion spent on the military keeps us in debt to the rest of the world and gives them an easy way to overtake us as a world power. Obviously that's what people in the US want, because we keep insisting the government go further and further into debt to fund the military.
    what's with this obsession about debt. we will never pay it off no matter what anyway. it doesn't even exist in the minds of those in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unusialsusp5 View Post
    what's with this obsession about debt. we will never pay it off no matter what anyway. it doesn't even exist in the minds of those in power.
    As long as the dollar is the "world currency" the debt doesn't really matter and if you think it does please educate yourself with basic economics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocMilk23 View Post
    As long as the dollar is the "world currency" the debt doesn't really matter and if you think it does please educate yourself with basic economics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocMilk23 View Post
    As long as the dollar is the "world currency" the debt doesn't really matter

    China, russia and other nations engaged in de-dollarization programs years back.

    To divest the us dollar from its reserve status in their economies.

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    world currency not two country currency... no one is mass buying rubles... come on man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity Check View Post
    A high percentage of current US military are on food stamps to afford food.

    Cost of labor/manpower is not the problem here.
    No one every said it is. The problem is the total spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocMilk23 View Post
    world currency not two country currency... no one is mass buying rubles... come on man
    Global reserve currency**.


    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    No one every said it is. The problem is the total spending.
    The problem is liabilities and interest grow @ greater rate than revenues on an annualized basis.

    The cost of programs like social security might grow 20% per year. While tax revenues only grow 3% to 5% per year. Eventually you reach a point where liabilities are larger than revenues. Its only a question of when.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unusialsusp5 View Post
    what's with this obsession about debt. we will never pay it off no matter what anyway. it doesn't even exist in the minds of those in power.
    A conservative government could pay off the debt. It was under control for most of the entire history of the country. Even after the liberals took over Washington in the 1980s and decided to make debt and spending their top priority, it was brought back under control in the 90s. Just because the federal government is filled with left wing extremists right now, doesn't mean we can't change back. We've done it before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    China/Russia/USA anyone of them can blow each other off the map. A war between any of them you don't to want to see happen. They'll be nothing left in the end on either side..
    no kidding. that is why they will use an EMP strike. everything will be left intact structurally for a while but 75% of the population will not be around for very long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    China/Russia/USA anyone of them can blow each other off the map. A war between any of them you don't to want to see happen. They'll be nothing left in the end on either side..
    So why is the US spending three times as much as both of them combined, just to be in a stale-mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unusialsusp5 View Post
    no kidding. that is why they will use an EMP strike. everything will be left intact structurally for a while but 75% of the population will not be around for very long.
    What? Explain how you are going to kill 75% of a population and keep the infrastructure intact... If an EMP went off the population isn't just going to vacate lol ppl still live around Chernobyl

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    Trump's space force will eliminate that asteroid or meteor before it gets us. He's a smart man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocMilk23 View Post
    What? Explain how you are going to kill 75% of a population and keep the infrastructure intact... If an EMP went off the population isn't just going to vacate lol ppl still live around Chernobyl
    with no power grid there will no food delivered or even processed since vehicles will not be able to run. there will be no cell phones, television or any way to communicate with the public unless you have a short wave radio. people will go nuts raiding, pillaging and looting anything they can get their hands on to survive. if it happens in the winter people will freeze to death as there will be no fuel delivered or your electric heat will not work. bonfires will work for a while but not practical long term. bodies will be piling up everywhere and no one will come to take them away. chernobyl is not the same. no radiation with an EMP strike. you must realize how much we depend on the power grid to survive. it would take a year or more to fix it but by then it will be too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hehfest View Post
    Like I said, super weapons are what matters. What will you do.....what will you do if all of the aircraft can be shut off in mid-air? I won't even discuss tanks. You are living in the last century still. Like I said, warfare has changed. Battleships and aircraft carriers can be deemed useless. Nevermind. Carry-on. I won't bother to explain. You still think tanks matter? LOL LMFAO .........clueless about today's weapon systems.

    Edit: (most likely have space fleets) The us and other countries have space fleets anyway. All your tax money has gone to projects that you won't ever, nor I, know about. They are light years ahead of tanks and planes Fidel. So go make your people pick some bananas.
    As usuao, you forget the most important thing. NO Nation will use these weapons of mass destruction. You are very stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unusialsusp5 View Post
    with no power grid there will no food delivered or even processed since vehicles will not be able to run. there will be no cell phones, television or any way to communicate with the public unless you have a short wave radio. people will go nuts raiding, pillaging and looting anything they can get their hands on to survive. if it happens in the winter people will freeze to death as there will be no fuel delivered or your electric heat will not work. bonfires will work for a while but not practical long term. bodies will be piling up everywhere and no one will come to take them away. chernobyl is not the same. no radiation with an EMP strike. you must realize how much we depend on the power grid to survive. it would take a year or more to fix it but by then it will be too late.
    I understand there is no Radiation with an EMP. You vastly over estimate the area an EMP can take out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    Trump's space force will eliminate that asteroid or meteor before it gets us. He's a smart man.


    and how is the "smart man" planning on paying for it?, if you haven't noticed the world and my country are in pretty bad shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocMilk23 View Post
    I understand there is no Radiation with an EMP. You vastly over estimate the area an EMP can take out...
    just one nuclear explosion high above no dakota will take out all the grids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unusialsusp5 View Post
    just one nuclear explosion high above no dakota will take out all the grids.
    Then that country would be wiped off the planet with nukes from our subs. An actual EMP is relatively small. Using a nuke to create an EMP with the earths magnetic field would just get them nuked back and we would not be launching our nukes to create emps

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocMilk23 View Post
    Then that country would be wiped off the planet with nukes from our subs. An actual EMP is relatively small. Using a nuke to create an EMP with the earths magnetic field would just get them nuked back and we would not be launching our nukes to create emps
    we would not strike back with anything other than an EMP strike ourselves. which would help neutralize them but no one is stupid enough to launch an actual nuclear attack on infrastructure. that wouldn't end well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
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    i can destroy every mother f'n one of these militaries with one decent biolab and a flock of these mother fukkers:






    stick those tanks up your f'n ass, mother f'ers!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    So why is the US spending three times as much as both of them combined, just to be in a stale-mate?
    To keep everyone in check in all other Countries, make them really think twice about striking America.. Gotta have a stout military to be the world power.

    Beefing up the military is never a bad idea..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    To keep everyone in check in all other Countries, make them really think twice about striking America.. Gotta have a stout military to be the world power.

    Beefing up the military is never a bad idea..
    give me a private island with my level-4 death lab and my favorite research bats, and I'll have the whole world on its knees...........



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    military doesnt matter

    just look at corona

    if you can get away with an OOPs, my bad

    you won

    we should bomb the fukk out of china and trump would

    we have too many soyboys advising him that are deep state

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