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    I don't follow NBA as closely as a lot of you but Clippers look like value

    I grabbed the Celtics early on the opener on the moneyline which was a no brainer to me but wondering what is up with the move on the Lakers? Clippers look to be value on the M/L but not sure I'll fire just yet.

    Bring some comments NBA bettors

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    go clipps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcoloco View Post
    go clipps!
    save ur harden money !! Lakers or nothing !!

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    This really has nothing to do with the NBA. It has to do with basic common sense. When Lebron James and Anthony Davis go from Questionable to playing the line is going to move.

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    Lol value

    You cannot make this stuff up

    Lines dead on

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyb25 View Post
    This really has nothing to do with the NBA. It has to do with basic common sense. When Lebron James and Anthony Davis go from Questionable to playing the line is going to move.
    My understanding was they were both playing before the opener came out Line was pushed by the public

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Lol value

    You cannot make this stuff up


    Lines dead on
    Do you know what +EV is?

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    What move?

    It opened at -2 and it's currently at -1.5

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    Lol

    Ranger a basic bettor

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    Agreed ranger clueless

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    What move?

    It opened at -2 and it's currently at -1.5
    The moneyline not the spread

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    Quote Originally Posted by leetreaper View Post
    Agreed ranger clueless
    I'm way above you loser

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post
    The moneyline not the spread
    Opened -132, currently -127

    I don't see anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    What move?

    It opened at -2 and it's currently at -1.5
    Not true at all. Many books opened clippers as favorites (-1.5 etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Not true at all. Many books opened clippers as favorites (-1.5 etc)
    Those books quickly moved when pinnacle and Bookmaker put out their opener of Lakers -2/-2.5

    So they are basically irrelevant

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    Those books quickly moved when pinnacle and Bookmaker put out their opener of Lakers -2/-2.5

    So they are basically irrelevant
    I know what your getting at but pinnacle and juicemaker didn't open cause they were not sure on James and Davis. Obviously they were going to play.

    Also pinnacle does this regularly now. They hold out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    I know what your getting at but pinnacle and juicemaker didn't open cause they were not sure on James and Davis. Obviously they were going to play.

    Also pinnacle does this regularly now. They hold out.
    They have volume. That's what matters. Any small time book can just come up with a number but without a real market, what does it mean? Not much. If OP is referring to those, then funnyb already answered the question

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    Opened -132, currently -127

    I don't see anything
    Clippers opened at -118 and currently +120. Not sure what book you're looking at but this is 5Dimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    They have volume. That's what matters. Any small time book can just come up with a number but without a real market, what does it mean? Not much. If OP is referring to those, then funnyb already answered the question
    The numbers opened after the status of James and Davis were known.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post
    Clippers opened at -118 and currently +120. Not sure what book you're looking at but this is 5Dimes.
    5Dimes is a small time book. Their openers have tiny limits and quickly readjust when pinnacle/bookmaker opens.

    Like I said, if that's what you're referring to, then funnyb already answered your question

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    James and Davis playing was official Yesterday afternoon

    Some
    Guys sleeping at wheel

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post
    The numbers opened after the status of James and Davis were known.
    Exactly! There is no big mystery then

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    Exactly! There is no big mystery then
    So why the line move?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post
    So why the line move?
    What do you mean why the line move? You already answered your own question

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    They have volume. That's what matters. Any small time book can just come up with a number but without a real market, what does it mean? Not much. If OP is referring to those, then funnyb already answered the question
    I don't think you got me. Pinnacle isn't what they used to be. They opened all there games at the same time yesterday at 143pm. Other books had lines up much earlier on all the games.

    I actually think the clippers should be favorites her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    I don't think you got me. Pinnacle isn't what they used to be. They opened all there games at the same time yesterday at 143pm. Other books had lines up much earlier on all the games.

    I actually think the clippers should be favorites her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    I don't think you got me. Pinnacle isn't what they used to be. They opened all there games at the same time yesterday at 143pm. Other books had lines up much earlier on all the games.

    I actually think the clippers should be favorites her.
    Other books like who? I honestly don't pay much attention other than Pinnacle and Bookmaker

    I have no opinion who should be favoured. Market says Lakers but market isn't always right either. Who knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    What do you mean why the line move? You already answered your own question
    The move described above. The book you said is irrelevant which is not true.

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    Pinnacle takes massive action NBA

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post
    The move described above. The book you said is irrelevant which is not true.
    Ok, can you tell me what your point is and explain it to me like I'm 5? I really have no clue what you're trying to say.

    Also, 5Dimes is almost completely irrelevant here for reasons I already explained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    Other books like who? I honestly don't pay much attention other than Pinnacle and Bookmaker

    I have no opinion who should be favoured. Market says Lakers but market isn't always right either. Who knows
    Heritage and bol. Those are the only two books I pay much attention to other then pinnacle. Bookmaker is a joke on lines

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Pinnacle takes massive action NBA

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Heritage and bol. Those are the only two books I pay much attention to other then pinnacle. Bookmaker is a joke on lines
    I mean I wouldn't say they're completely irrelevant because that's not how markets work. But come on, they pale in comparison to Pinnacle and Bookmaker.

    Being first to market means nothing, just that you're first

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    I mean I wouldn't say they're completely irrelevant because that's not how markets work. But come on, they pale in comparison to Pinnacle and Bookmaker.

    Being first to market means nothing, just that you're first
    Volume yes of course but bookmaker is not sharp at all. They just pay and have huge juice.

    Bol isn't concerned with putting out a line early and has big limits. They hold opinions as well.

    Heritage is a sharp operation.

    Pinny is pinny though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Volume yes of course but bookmaker is not sharp at all. They just pay and have huge juice.

    Bol isn't concerned with putting out a line early and has big limits. They hold opinions as well.

    Heritage is a sharp operation.

    Pinny is pinny though.
    Is there even such a thing as sharp? Liquidity is really only thing that matters in the end right? But I guess that's kind of a philosophical discussion

    So heritage and BOL both put out lines before James and Davis' statuses were set in stone. You said everyone knew they were playing but there's still a distinction there and some uncertainty. Obviously James and Davis are worth more than a 4 pt move through 0 so I don't really see a strong opinion there if that's what you're contending

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