I don't follow NBA as closely as a lot of you but Clippers look like value

**marcoloco** · 12-25-19, 11:26 AM

go clipps!

**Hot Jerry** · 12-25-19, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by marcoloco

go clipps!

save ur harden money !! Lakers or nothing !!

**funnyb25** · 12-25-19, 11:36 AM

This really has nothing to do with the NBA. It has to do with basic common sense. When Lebron James and Anthony Davis go from Questionable to playing the line is going to move.

**jjgold** · 12-25-19, 11:43 AM

Lol value

You cannot make this stuff up

Lines dead on

**RangeFinder** · 12-25-19, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by funnyb25

This really has nothing to do with the NBA. It has to do with basic common sense. When Lebron James and Anthony Davis go from Questionable to playing the line is going to move.

My understanding was they were both playing before the opener came out Line was pushed by the public

**RangeFinder** · 12-25-19, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Lol value

You cannot make this stuff up

Lines dead on

Do you know what +EV is?

**asiagambler** · 12-25-19, 03:13 PM

What move?

It opened at -2 and it's currently at -1.5

**jjgold** · 12-25-19, 03:14 PM

Lol

Ranger a basic bettor

**leetreaper** · 12-25-19, 03:25 PM

Agreed ranger clueless

**RangeFinder** · 12-25-19, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

What move?

It opened at -2 and it's currently at -1.5

The moneyline not the spread

**RangeFinder** · 12-25-19, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by leetreaper

Agreed ranger clueless

I'm way above you loser

**asiagambler** · 12-25-19, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by RangeFinder

The moneyline not the spread

Opened -132, currently -127

I don't see anything

**lakerboy** · 12-25-19, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

What move?

It opened at -2 and it's currently at -1.5

Not true at all. Many books opened clippers as favorites (-1.5 etc)

**asiagambler** · 12-25-19, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Not true at all. Many books opened clippers as favorites (-1.5 etc)

Those books quickly moved when pinnacle and Bookmaker put out their opener of Lakers -2/-2.5

So they are basically irrelevant

**lakerboy** · 12-25-19, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Those books quickly moved when pinnacle and Bookmaker put out their opener of Lakers -2/-2.5

So they are basically irrelevant

I know what your getting at but pinnacle and juicemaker didn't open cause they were not sure on James and Davis. Obviously they were going to play.

Also pinnacle does this regularly now. They hold out.

**asiagambler** · 12-25-19, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

I know what your getting at but pinnacle and juicemaker didn't open cause they were not sure on James and Davis. Obviously they were going to play.

Also pinnacle does this regularly now. They hold out.

They have volume. That's what matters. Any small time book can just come up with a number but without a real market, what does it mean? Not much. If OP is referring to those, then funnyb already answered the question

**RangeFinder** · 12-25-19, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Opened -132, currently -127

I don't see anything

Clippers opened at -118 and currently +120. Not sure what book you're looking at but this is 5Dimes.

**RangeFinder** · 12-25-19, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

They have volume. That's what matters. Any small time book can just come up with a number but without a real market, what does it mean? Not much. If OP is referring to those, then funnyb already answered the question

The numbers opened after the status of James and Davis were known.

**asiagambler** · 12-25-19, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by RangeFinder

Clippers opened at -118 and currently +120. Not sure what book you're looking at but this is 5Dimes.

5Dimes is a small time book. Their openers have tiny limits and quickly readjust when pinnacle/bookmaker opens.

Like I said, if that's what you're referring to, then funnyb already answered your question

**jjgold** · 12-25-19, 04:13 PM

James and Davis playing was official Yesterday afternoon

Some
Guys sleeping at wheel

**asiagambler** · 12-25-19, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by RangeFinder

The numbers opened after the status of James and Davis were known.

Exactly! There is no big mystery then

**RangeFinder** · 12-25-19, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Exactly! There is no big mystery then

So why the line move?

**asiagambler** · 12-25-19, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by RangeFinder

So why the line move?

What do you mean why the line move? You already answered your own question

**lakerboy** · 12-25-19, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

They have volume. That's what matters. Any small time book can just come up with a number but without a real market, what does it mean? Not much. If OP is referring to those, then funnyb already answered the question

I don't think you got me. Pinnacle isn't what they used to be. They opened all there games at the same time yesterday at 143pm. Other books had lines up much earlier on all the games.

I actually think the clippers should be favorites her.

**RangeFinder** · 12-25-19, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

I don't think you got me. Pinnacle isn't what they used to be. They opened all there games at the same time yesterday at 143pm. Other books had lines up much earlier on all the games.

I actually think the clippers should be favorites her.

**asiagambler** · 12-25-19, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

I don't think you got me. Pinnacle isn't what they used to be. They opened all there games at the same time yesterday at 143pm. Other books had lines up much earlier on all the games.

I actually think the clippers should be favorites her.

Other books like who? I honestly don't pay much attention other than Pinnacle and Bookmaker

I have no opinion who should be favoured. Market says Lakers but market isn't always right either. Who knows

**RangeFinder** · 12-25-19, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

What do you mean why the line move? You already answered your own question

The move described above. The book you said is irrelevant which is not true.

**jjgold** · 12-25-19, 04:19 PM

Pinnacle takes massive action NBA

**asiagambler** · 12-25-19, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by RangeFinder

The move described above. The book you said is irrelevant which is not true.

Ok, can you tell me what your point is and explain it to me like I'm 5? I really have no clue what you're trying to say.

Also, 5Dimes is almost completely irrelevant here for reasons I already explained.

**lakerboy** · 12-25-19, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Other books like who? I honestly don't pay much attention other than Pinnacle and Bookmaker

I have no opinion who should be favoured. Market says Lakers but market isn't always right either. Who knows

Heritage and bol. Those are the only two books I pay much attention to other then pinnacle. Bookmaker is a joke on lines

**asiagambler** · 12-25-19, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Pinnacle takes massive action NBA

**asiagambler** · 12-25-19, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Heritage and bol. Those are the only two books I pay much attention to other then pinnacle. Bookmaker is a joke on lines

I mean I wouldn't say they're completely irrelevant because that's not how markets work. But come on, they pale in comparison to Pinnacle and Bookmaker.

Being first to market means nothing, just that you're first

**lakerboy** · 12-25-19, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

I mean I wouldn't say they're completely irrelevant because that's not how markets work. But come on, they pale in comparison to Pinnacle and Bookmaker.

Being first to market means nothing, just that you're first

Volume yes of course but bookmaker is not sharp at all. They just pay and have huge juice.

Bol isn't concerned with putting out a line early and has big limits. They hold opinions as well.

Heritage is a sharp operation.

Pinny is pinny though.

**asiagambler** · 12-25-19, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Volume yes of course but bookmaker is not sharp at all. They just pay and have huge juice.

Bol isn't concerned with putting out a line early and has big limits. They hold opinions as well.

Heritage is a sharp operation.

Pinny is pinny though.

Is there even such a thing as sharp? Liquidity is really only thing that matters in the end right? But I guess that's kind of a philosophical discussion

So heritage and BOL both put out lines before James and Davis' statuses were set in stone. You said everyone knew they were playing but there's still a distinction there and some uncertainty. Obviously James and Davis are worth more than a 4 pt move through 0 so I don't really see a strong opinion there if that's what you're contending