Harden and Westbrook will lead the Rockets straight into the LOTTERY

**Hman** · 10-25-19, 08:33 AM

You could be right but they need a little more time together.

Westbrook has said he will change his style in catering to Harden, but that's left to be seen.

Let's not forget Westbrook averages a triple double and can still can make Houston better by taking a backseat in scoring.

**MrSink** · 10-25-19, 08:36 AM

I agree. I do not expect anything good from this experiment

**Hman** · 10-25-19, 08:49 AM

Do you guys don't think Westbrook is an upgrade over Chris Paul?

**shadymcgrady** · 10-25-19, 09:02 AM

Did Westbrook try to steal the ball from harden last night?

**DOM-Ganador** · 10-25-19, 09:05 AM

It was a desperation move to take CP3 and his stupid contract.
RWB forced OKCs hand, so they swapped bad, untradeable contracts.

IMO, Paul at least has shown over his career as a player/leader who can sacrifice individual stats to make the players/team around him better.

Harden, simply NO. A case could be made for Russ with all those assists. But he is also an inefficient HOF chucker.

**jjgold** · 10-25-19, 09:25 AM

I’ll never take them again

**2daBank** · 10-25-19, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by Hman

Do you guys don't think Westbrook is an upgrade over Chris Paul?

Huge. Maybe they didn’t see the times Russ grabbed a board and was up the floor in 3 seconds creating offense, they have never had anything like that. I mean ultimately harden a bitch loser with the most pathetic game to watch in history of the league but it bs to blame Russ, he makes them better.

**The General** · 10-25-19, 11:43 AM

It's to bad. NBA has great talent, but drama overload.

**dlowilly** · 10-25-19, 12:14 PM

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**dlowilly** · 10-25-19, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

It was a desperation move to take CP3 and his stupid contract.
RWB forced OKCs hand, so they swapped bad, untradeable contracts.

IMO, Paul at least has shown over his career as a player/leader who can sacrifice individual stats to make the players/team around him better.

Harden, simply NO. A case could be made for Russ with all those assists. But he is also an inefficient HOF chucker.

I didn't see the game live but followed it in play by play, and OKC seemed to put up a good fight and play well together

**thomorino** · 10-25-19, 12:51 PM

Houston would have blown out Milwaukee last night but Harden picked up 4 fouls in the first half, they'll be fine, they look like the second best team in the West right now.

**jjgold** · 10-25-19, 01:03 PM

Ball hogs never win

**2daBank** · 10-25-19, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by thomorino

Houston would have blown out Milwaukee last night but Harden picked up 4 fouls in the first half, they'll be fine, they look like the second best team in the West right now.

Lmao. How you figure??

**thomorino** · 10-25-19, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

Lmao. How you figure??

Houston was the 2nd best team in the West last year, Clippers are better but Lebron isn't what he used to be, no reason Houston can't be the second best team in the West.

**2daBank** · 10-25-19, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by thomorino

Houston was the 2nd best team in the West last year, Clippers are better but Lebron isn't what he used to be, no reason Houston can't be the second best team in the West.

There about 7 reasons (teams) that say they can’t be second best.

Bron could be 50 and harden still can’t hold his jock. Bron got one more mvp level season in him imo.

Harden a joke. The minute officials stop giving him those bogus calls he is worthless. Nothing but a flopping clown who does nothing but try to draw contact. He is horrible for the sport, I find his Game to be completely unwatchable.

**thomorino** · 10-25-19, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

There about 7 reasons (teams) that say they can’t be second best.

Bron could be 50 and harden still can’t hold his jock. Bron got one more mvp level season in him imo.

Harden a joke. The minute officials stop giving him those bogus calls he is worthless. Nothing but a flopping clown who does nothing but try to draw contact. He is horrible for the sport, I find his Game to be completely unwatchable.

Lebron is 35, he's not going to come close to winning the MVP. The Clippers are the far better team and they don't even have Paul George. You are living in the past.

Harden is a choker, they won't win anything, but no one in the West is likely to challenge the Clippers, its Clippers and a bunch of teams that are overrated.

Lebron isn't in the Eastern Conference anymore, he's 35 playing up tempo games 4 games in 5 nights, I doubt he even plays more than 65-70 games.

**Grits n' Gravy** · 10-25-19, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

D`Antoni will need to schedule daily therapy sessions to deal with these two.
Already a little flare up 1st game of season.
RUSS absolutely incapable of growth or change.
HARDEN. I can`t think of another player who kills any offensive sharing or flow, or is more about "ME".
Between them, Houston paying over 76 MILLION this season.
Leaving 7 other guys on roster, well into their 30s, all making less than 2 million.

Forget championship. Team is handcuffed and will implode.

After 1 game this guy has everything figured out.

Originally posted by jjgold

Ball hogs never win

Kobe and Jordan would disagree with you.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 10-25-19, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

D`Antoni will need to schedule daily therapy sessions to deal with these two.
Already a little flare up 1st game of season.
RUSS absolutely incapable of growth or change.
HARDEN. I can`t think of another player who kills any offensive sharing or flow, or is more about "ME".Forget championship. Team is handcuffed and will implode.

Huh? Playoffs. You don't think the Rockets will make the playoffs? What are you seeing? They will most definitely make the playoffs and should challenge for the best record in the West. I like what I saw in their first game, even though they lost. Russ can push the ball and get quick transition buckets for himself and others. Huge upgrade over CP3s slow, aging body.

**dlowilly** · 10-25-19, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Huh? Playoffs. You don't think the Rockets will make the playoffs? What are you seeing? They will most definitely make the playoffs and should challenge for the best record in the West. I like what I saw in their first game, even though they lost. Russ can push the ball and get quick transition buckets for himself and others. Huge upgrade over CP3s slow, aging body.

Come on now

They lost their home opener while getting outscored by 15 in the 4th quarter. That screams issues and if you think it doesn't ur being a homer.

**TheMoneyShot** · 10-25-19, 02:42 PM

Let's face it... it's tough to outscore your opponent every night with no defense. By the time the regular season ends and the playoffs begin... you are SPENT. That's why Houston is always out early.

D`Antoni's system will never work for any NBA team.

**thomorino** · 10-25-19, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by dlowilly

Come on now

They lost their home opener while getting outscored by 15 in the 4th quarter. That screams issues and if you think it doesn't ur being a homer.

They lost the 4th quarter because Harden was in foul trouble so he didn't play early in the quarter and had no rhythm, they will make the playoffs with ease. They were up 16 at half and dominated the game until Harden went out with foul trouble.

**thomorino** · 10-25-19, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

Let's face it... it's tough to outscore your opponent every night with no defense. By the time the regular season ends and the playoffs begin... you are SPENT. That's why Houston is always out early.

D`Antoni's system will never work for any NBA team.

They were in game 7 of the conference finals 2 years ago, get a TV.

**dlowilly** · 10-25-19, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by thomorino

They lost the 4th quarter because Harden was in foul trouble so he didn't play early in the quarter and had no rhythm, they will make the playoffs with ease. They were up 16 at half and dominated the game until Harden went out with foul trouble.

What r u talking about?

Harden came in with 10 minutes left in the 4th qtr, starters don’t normally play the whole 4th qtr.

They lost the lead when he was in

He didn’t get his 5th foul until 3 minutes left in the game

**2daBank** · 10-25-19, 02:50 PM

Didn’t Greek freak foul out? That a pretty weak argument saying Houston lost cause of foul trouble!!

**thomorino** · 10-25-19, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by dlowilly

What r u talking about?

Harden came in with 10 minutes left in the 4th qtr

They lost the lead when he was in

He didn’t get his 5th foul until 3 minutes left in the game

Harden had 4 fouls in the first half, he didn't play for long stretches in the second half and had no rhythm.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 10-25-19, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by dlowilly

Come on now
They lost their home opener while getting outscored by 15 in the 4th quarter. That screams issues and if you think it doesn't ur being a homer.

So giving up a huge lead and losing in the 4th quarter of game one screams issues and possibly not making the playoffs? That's a huge stretch. Can we at least let them get a few games under their belt before we bury them in dirt?

**thomorino** · 10-25-19, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

Didn’t Greek freak foul out? That a pretty weak argument saying Houston lost cause of foul trouble!!

A player like Harden has to be in rhythm, he missed a lot of second half with foul trouble and he had no rhythm when he came back in. Houston dominated 90% of the game.

**2daBank** · 10-25-19, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by thomorino

A player like Harden has to be in rhythm, he missed a lot of second half with foul trouble and he had no rhythm when he came back in. Houston dominated 90% of the game.

Harden sucks

**thomorino** · 10-25-19, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

Didn’t Greek freak foul out? That a pretty weak argument saying Houston lost cause of foul trouble!!

Houston dominated most of the game, in the second half Harden got in foul trouble and missed a big part of the half, he had no rhythm. A player like Harden has to be in rhythm, Houston was clearly the better team. They led by double digits for nearly 80% of the game.

**thomorino** · 10-25-19, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

Harden sucks

He's not clutch I agree with you there but he's still a superstar, Paul was the problem last year, washed up.

**dlowilly** · 10-25-19, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by thomorino

Harden had 4 fouls in the first half, he didn't play for long stretches in the second half and had no rhythm.

He played 36 minutes that is a full game

They lost the lead while he was in and not in foul trouble

You said they lost the 4th qtr because he didn’t play early in the quarter and he was in foul trouble, that obv wasn’t the case

**thomorino** · 10-25-19, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by dlowilly

He played 36 minutes that is a full game

They lost the lead while he was in and not in foul trouble

You said they lost the 4th qtr because he didn’t play early in the quarter and he was in foul trouble, that obv wasn’t the case

The whole game turned when Harden was out, 36 minutes is nothing for Harden in a big game. He'd play a minimum 40 in any playoff game or big regular season game like the season opener.

Houston dominated the game for most of the way, Harden's foul trouble was the only thing keeping Milwaukee in the game.

**2daBank** · 10-25-19, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by thomorino

The whole game turned when Harden was out, 36 minutes is nothing for Harden in a big game. He'd play a minimum 40 in any playoff game or big regular season game like the season opener.

Houston dominated the game for most of the way, Harden's foul trouble was the only thing keeping Milwaukee in the game.

But freak fouled out no?

**shadymcgrady** · 10-25-19, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

But freak fouled out no?

He outplayed everyone in 28 min after harden was talking trash about his mvp award