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    Will a 1 Loss Alabama make the Playoffs over an undefeated Oklahoma?

    Ofcourse the arguement is

    LSU
    Clemson
    Ohio State
    Alabama

    are the 4 best teams, especially with a healthy Tua

    but could the committee really leave Oklahoma on the outside looking in?

    Lets hear your thoughts men

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    The committee can do whatever it wants, but the reality of it all is the fact that if Alabama's loss is to LSU, as you seem to think it will be, then you are asking if the committee would chose a one loss team who did NOT win their Conference over an undefeated team that did win their conference. The answer is NO. If that happens, you may as well dissolve the entire process because NO TEAM will buy it. You are saying that name only matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    Ofcourse the arguement is

    LSU
    Clemson
    Ohio State
    Alabama

    are the 4 best teams, especially with a healthy Tua

    but could the committee really leave Oklahoma on the outside looking in?

    Lets hear your thoughts men
    Clemson is better than OU? do you follow the sport, Bear? have you watched them play this year? TLawrence nowhere near the QB he was last year. he is making foolish throws.

    NO a 1-loss Bama team does not get in over undefeated OU esp because they still play Baylor and would have won the B12 title game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    The committee can do whatever it wants, but the reality of it all is the fact that if Alabama's loss is to LSU, as you seem to think it will be, then you are asking if the committee would chose a one loss team who did NOT win their Conference over an undefeated team that did win their conference. The answer is NO. If that happens, you may as well dissolve the entire process because NO TEAM will buy it. You are saying that name only matters.
    Not only didn't win their conference, didn't even win their division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    The committee can do whatever it wants, but the reality of it all is the fact that if Alabama's loss is to LSU, as you seem to think it will be, then you are asking if the committee would chose a one loss team who did NOT win their Conference over an undefeated team that did win their conference. The answer is NO. If that happens, you may as well dissolve the entire process because NO TEAM will buy it. You are saying that name only matters.
    That happened with ohio state a few years ago, remember? they did not win their conference but they still got in.

    the committee's job is to take the 4 BEST teams. conf title only comes into play as a tiebreaker if two teams look the same in their eyes.

    but.........NO........alabama would Not go in with 1 loss over undefeated OU. No CHANCE

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    That means that OU will have defeated Baylor twice. Once in the regular season and once in the playoff, if Baylor makes it that far. Texas is still in the running for the #2 spot in the Big 12 and gets it IF (a huge IF) they run the table. They go to Baylor.

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    Depends who the loss is to and by how much.

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    No

    Bama plays weak schedule

    Clemson auto eliminated with loss

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    That means that OU will have defeated Baylor twice. Once in the regular season and once in the playoff, if Baylor makes it that far. Texas is still in the running for the #2 spot in the Big 12 and gets it IF (a huge IF) they run the table. They go to Baylor.
    Baylor is nothing special nobody cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Depends who the loss is to and by how much.
    true. OU only lost to texas by 3 last year while tOSU lost by 28 or whatever to purdue, and that was the tiebreaker that got OU in.

    who you lose to and by how much, really does matter to the CFP committee.

    just like it did in the BCS.

    go figure

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Baylor is nothing special nobody cares.
    This is why people just laugh at you. First, you do not even bother to read the post. You just run your very uneducated mouth. IF you bothere d to read the lost, you would see that Bear ranks his team like this: "LSU Clemson Ohio State" That means that Alabama's loss came to LSU. A three year old can figure that out.

    Now as far as Baylor is concerned, they are 7-0 S/U and 4-2 in lined ATS games. And you are stupid enough to say that no one cares. Maybe big losers like yourself do not care (and no matter how much you try to deny it, you are a BIG loser) but people with some idea of how to wager college football games care. The more you talk, the more you prove just how illiterate about football you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post

    This is why people just laugh at you. First, you do not even bother to read the post. You just run your very uneducated mouth. IF you bothere d to read the lost, you would see that Bear ranks his team like this: "LSU Clemson Ohio State" That means that Alabama's loss came to LSU. A three year old can figure that out.

    Now as far as Baylor is concerned, they are 7-0 S/U and 4-2 in lined ATS games. And you are stupid enough to say that no one cares. Maybe big losers like yourself do not care (and no matter how much you try to deny it, you are a BIG loser) but people with some idea of how to wager college football games care. The more you talk, the more you prove just how illiterate about football you are.
    Baylor is nothing special, no one cares.

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    OU over Clemson

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    Quote Originally Posted by krk1030 View Post
    OU over Clemson
    I agree Oklahoma is probably better than Clemson

    but since Clemson is the defending champion I think that will be considered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post

    I agree Oklahoma is probably better than Clemson

    but since Clemson is the defending champion I think that will be considered
    Clemson won't get in if they lose against an undefeated Oklahoma team, and it won't be close, Clemson's schedule is extremely easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Baylor is nothing special, no one cares.
    Thomo can no longer use his favorite two word phrase, so he is down to repeating his posts. He is totally incapable of making an argument with any logic in it at all. He just thinks that he is the best in here, which we all know is not even close to being true. As usual, his betpoints tell it all (0).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post

    Thomo can no longer use his favorite two word phrase, so he is down to repeating his posts. He is totally incapable of making an argument with any logic in it at all. He just thinks that he is the best in here, which we all know is not even close to being true. As usual, his betpoints tell it all (0).

    Go back to arguing that can newton would make a good backup for 100 million stupid shit.

    Fuk off.

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    Good. I see that you are back to using your favorite two word phrase. That will get you thrown out of here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    Good. I see that you are back to using your favorite two word phrase. That will get you thrown out of here.
    Get lost dumb shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    Good. I see that you are back to using your favorite two word phrase. That will get you thrown out of here.
    Fuk off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Clemson won't get in if they lose against an undefeated Oklahoma team, and it won't be close, Clemson's schedule is extremely easy.
    if Clemson even played somebody in the top 50 they might lose

    it’s just almost impossible to lose when you play teams like Duke, G-Tech, NC State, Pitt, V-Tech etc

    that was crazy they almost lost to UNC

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    I think Clemson believes that all they have to do is show up to win. Trevor Lawrence has become a major head case. He is very talented, but his judgement skills are very questionable at best. Still, with that being said, Clemson is 7-0 S/U and 5-2 ATS. That is a better ATS record than Alabama (3-4) has. Remember, the spread is suppose to be the great equalizer.

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    speaking of Bama

    I would take Arkansas +33

    Bama’s back up QB is terrible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    I agree Oklahoma is probably better than Clemson

    but since Clemson is the defending champion I think that will be considered
    If the CFP committee goes by the criteria, they are not supposed to consider any prior years. But they are human. Last year was last year and should have no bearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    Get lost dumb shit
    I see that you have your usual 0 point balance in your betpoint account. How much have you lost this season, and do not give us any caca that you are winning. We know better than that. You had to brown nose your way back in here. Want to get tossed out again, loser?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    I see that you have your usual 0 point balance in your betpoint account. How much have you lost this season, and do not give us any caca that you are winning. We know better than that. You had to brown nose your way back in here. Want to get tossed out again, loser?
    My points are in book you broke dikk Lard ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by homie1975 View Post
    If the CFP committee goes by the criteria, they are not supposed to consider any prior years. But they are human. Last year was last year and should have no bearing.
    Agreed, but it always does. Basically you just have a glorified voting system. Deals are made well in advance. The rules are very simple. Go undefeated and make the playoffs. Have one loss and it depends on how many other conference champions have one loss. If you look at the top 6 teams in the nation, NO ONE played a tough non-con schedule. Alabama should be kicked out for the non-con schedule they played. Duke, So. Miss, New Mexico State and West Carolina. The only good team they play is LSU and that is at home. Clemson played A&M and Will end the regular season at South Carolina. Ohio State played FAU, Miami (Ohio) and Cincinnati, all at home. OU played Houston, South Dakota, and Uceless. At least LSU played Texas in Texas. That is about as good as it will get for the alleged Top 6 teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    My points are in book you broke dikk Lard ass
    And your money is going to be in my wallet. You are challenged. Pick your poison. Lose and welsh and you will be severely punished. Cowards like you know nothing and will not dare wager against me. I have called you out. Put up or shut up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    speaking of Bama

    I would take Arkansas +33

    Bama’s back up QB is terrible
    He hasn't played yet, too early to say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    He hasn't played yet, too early to say that.
    he cost the Bama backers on Saturday night

    he came in the 2nd quarter with 4 minutes left and didn’t even throw for a single TD. He only had a little over 70 yards passing. Apparently Saban doesn’t have any confidence in the kid

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    And your money is going to be in my wallet. You are challenged. Pick your poison. Lose and welsh and you will be severely punished. Cowards like you know nothing and will not dare wager against me. I have called you out. Put up or shut up.
    You are broke, fat, and miserable


    Fukk off

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    The committee can do whatever it wants, but the reality of it all is the fact that if Alabama's loss is to LSU, as you seem to think it will be, then you are asking if the committee would chose a one loss team who did NOT win their Conference over an undefeated team that did win their conference. The answer is NO. If that happens, you may as well dissolve the entire process because NO TEAM will buy it. You are saying that name only matters.
    Committee can always fall back on "4 best teams", which is all that they are instructed to choose. Criteria for getting there is very loose and has been applied inconsistently over the years. From a BETTING standpoint, Alabama would be favored over Oklahoma on a neutral field and the 4 teams Big Bear listed are indeed the four highest power rated teams on the bookies' ratings right now with Oklahoma rated fifth. So it would be interesting to see what happens if LSU beats Alabama, and with gambling now legal in so many states, it could oddly help Bama's cause as more people would be aware that Tide would be favored over Sooners.

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    Bama is out with a loss

    No brainer

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Bama is out with a loss

    No brainer
    Thing is, Bama would still be power rated top 3 with a loss, especially if loss comes to LSU with a hobbled Tua. I am talking about the ratings used to set lines, NOT talking about polls where they would drop farther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    Agreed, but it always does. Basically you just have a glorified voting system. Deals are made well in advance. The rules are very simple. Go undefeated and make the playoffs. Have one loss and it depends on how many other conference champions have one loss. If you look at the top 6 teams in the nation, NO ONE played a tough non-con schedule. Alabama should be kicked out for the non-con schedule they played. Duke, So. Miss, New Mexico State and West Carolina. The only good team they play is LSU and that is at home. Clemson played A&M and Will end the regular season at South Carolina. Ohio State played FAU, Miami (Ohio) and Cincinnati, all at home. OU played Houston, South Dakota, and Uceless. At least LSU played Texas in Texas. That is about as good as it will get for the alleged Top 6 teams.

    no argument on almost everything you wrote except: when Oklahoma signed the deals to play Houston and UCLA, they were perennial bowl teams especially UCLA.

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