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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    looks like his odds to win ROY have gone up since you posted your bet...I'm seeing +450 on Bovada and +550 at Heritage currently.
    yeah they have. I should have waited since I knew people would jump on the Zion hype train as soon as he stepped foot in preseason action. its all good though. the dollar amount is not a huge difference at my book. great value spot if you believe in Ja as much as I do to jump in on the action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sosawestbrook View Post
    yeah they have. I should have waited since I knew people would jump on the Zion hype train as soon as he stepped foot in preseason action. its all good though. the dollar amount is not a huge difference at my book. great value spot if you believe in Ja as much as I do to jump in on the action.
    I don't think i want to fade Zion but gl to you.

    Zion will win if it's close and I think someone might have to lap him to win it over him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    I don't think i want to fade Zion but gl to you.

    Zion will win if it's close and I think someone might have to lap him to win it over him.
    just meant in general terms, not to you specifically. after seeing Zion in preseason I wouldn't bet against him either. but if this season plays out like I think it will then the number on Ja is just too high in a point guard driven league for what has historically been a point guard heavy award. good to hear from you JP best of luck on your wagers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sosawestbrook View Post
    just meant in general terms, not to you specifically. after seeing Zion in preseason I wouldn't bet against him either. but if this season plays out like I think it will then the number on Ja is just too high in a point guard driven league for what has historically been a point guard heavy award. good to hear from you JP best of luck on your wagers.
    thanks pal gl on your wagers as well
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    looks like Zion might miss a few weeks...

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ted-miss-weeks

    might be time to increase your position on Morant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    looks like Zion might miss a few weeks...

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ted-miss-weeks

    might be time to increase your position on Morant?
    nah Im good where Im at. Zion's injury history was something that I took note of. I spoke about this in many threads including this one in a earlier post. that was part of the reason I felt the odds were inflated. everything so far has been calculated.

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    Trae young averages O21.5 points per game -120 (0.5 unit)

    Trae was in the gym w/ genius basketball minds like Rico Hines all summer. he was already one of the best scorers in the league but the work with these guys will sharpen his skillset and take his game to the next level. he only shot 32% from 3fg last year but that number will improve naturally as showcased by his second half season run. most of his early season struggles last year was simply adjusting to the speed and physicality of the game. he'll evolve into a top 5 scorer in the league this year and work his way onto an Allstar spot in the Eastern conference. my guess would be that he averages somewhere around 24 or 25 points a game.


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    That seems low gl might jump on it as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidcudi92 View Post
    That seems low gl might jump on it as well
    it is extremely low. Im noticing that the books have no clue how to set lines for younger players (especially rookies) because they rely on analytics and data. their sample sizes must not be large enough or they just don't know how to account for the intangibles. if I had any faith that the books would actually pay out, Id go heavy on a lot of these lines Im seeing. I can't wait til this shit is legal.

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    Thomas Bryant O11.5 points per game -120 (0.5 unit)
    Thomas Bryant O6.5 rebounds per game -120 (0.5 unit)

    Thomas Bryant will be a candidate for the most improved player award and will clear these numbers with ease. some of these lines I am seeing are a joke. at this point I just hope they dont stick me up for my money at season's end. 18 and 11 is a more realistic prediction here.


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    Marvin bagley O7.5 rebounds per game -120 (0.5 unit)

    another number that is way off. Bagley is likely to start at center this year. with the extra minutes he should get past this number effortlessly. he is a monster on the boards. 9 or 10 is a more realistic prediction. also, I am EXTREMELY high on the Kings as a team this year. I think they will be one of the biggest surprises of the season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sosawestbrook View Post
    it is extremely low. Im noticing that the books have no clue how to set lines for younger players (especially rookies) because they rely on analytics and data. their sample sizes must not be large enough or they just don't know how to account for the intangibles. if I had any faith that the books would actually pay out, Id go heavy on a lot of these lines Im seeing. I can't wait til this shit is legal.
    Thats exactly it, they dont know how to price it because of data and analytics. When does the season officially start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Git Lo View Post
    Thats exactly it, they dont know how to price it because of data and analytics. When does the season officially start?
    next week bro. I think this is gonna be one of the better regular seasons we have had in a while because for the first time in almost a decade the path to a championship is WIDE open. anyone can win it. Im super PUMPED UP.

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    Buddy hield O20.5 points per game -120 (0.5 unit)

    Buddy is the best scorer on this Kings team and I think this is the year he starts to assert himself more as a leader and go to guy. he's already one of the most efficient shooters in the league so taking more shots will naturally lead to more points.


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    Collin sexton O17.5 points per game -120 (0.5 unit)

    K love is on his last legs and probably heading out the door by the trade deadline. this is Collin's team going forward. he has every weapon in his arsenal to be an efficient scorer in this league and shocked a lot of people with how well he shot the ball last year. I think he keeps it going this season and perhaps plays well enough to earn some all star votes in the eastern conference.


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    Buddy got paid. hope its not too much pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sosawestbrook View Post
    Thomas Bryant O11.5 points per game -120 (0.5 unit)
    Thomas Bryant O6.5 rebounds per game -120 (0.5 unit)

    Thomas Bryant will be a candidate for the most improved player award and will clear these numbers with ease. some of these lines I am seeing are a joke. at this point I just hope they dont stick me up for my money at season's end. 18 and 11 is a more realistic prediction here.


    Anunoby may be most improved. what kind of numbers he getting?

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    heading into the NBA season

    1 unit = $50

    NFL

    Kyler Murray ROY +160 / risk 1 unit
    Darius Leonard DPOY +3300 / risk 1 unit
    Colts O6.5 season wins -120 / risk 1.2 units
    Colts make playoffs +400 / risk 1 unit
    Chiefs O10.5 season wins -120 / risk 1.2 units

    NBA


    Ja morant ROY +330 / risk 1 unit
    Kings make playoffs +315 / risk 1 unit
    Kings make playoffs +250 / risk 2 units
    Ben Simmons MVP +8000 / risk 0.5 units
    Ja morant averages O6.5 assists -120 / risk 2.4 units
    Ja morant leads the league in assists +900 / risk 0.5 units
    Trae young averages O21.5 points -120 / risk 0.5 units
    Thomas Bryant averages O11.5 points -120 / risk 0.5 units
    Thomas Bryant averages O6.5 rebounds -120 / risk 0.5 units
    Buddy Hield averages O20.5 points -120 / risk 0.5 units
    Marvin Bagley O7.5 rebounds -120 / risk 0.5 units
    Collin sexton O17.5 points -120 / risk 0.5 units

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdom View Post
    Buddy got paid. hope its not too much pressure.
    pressure from what? the hard part is over. time to ball out now.

    Quote Originally Posted by kingdom View Post
    Anunoby may be most improved. what kind of numbers he getting?
    no clue on Anunoby. I haven't paid attention to his recovery this summer. he is an interesting prospect for sure though.

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    anunoby looked strong in preseason. and buddy should be good. guy can shoot.

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    Ja looking good in the game vs nets. Blocked Kyries buzzer beater in regulation and got the assist to jae crowder for a buzzer beater in ot, wow this kid looks good

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    Quote Originally Posted by sosawestbrook View Post
    this is my thread for futures plays. I have never played these before but I wanna give it a try and see how well I do.

    this is for all sports NBA/MLB/NFL.

    my first play is on NBA rookie of the year.

    NBA ROY

    Ja Morant +330



    He’s on the Grizzlies?

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    OVer 6.5 wins colts over 10.5 wins chiefs. Morant looks like rookie of the year barring an injury.

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    thanks for the bump. Ill update this when the NFL awards are announced in early February. never got to expand on my thoughts about Kyler but I think the world got a taste of exactly what he is about. Colts got off to a strong start but ultimately ran out of gas at the end. I expected their defense to be a top 5 unit this year and they weren't even close. some of it was injuries including D.leonard missing 3 games but overall they had a very underwhelming year. Chiefs did what they do. fully expect them to take care of business this playoffs and represent the AFC in the super bowl.

    quick thoughts on the NBA futures. Ja is being held back by the Grizz franchise with these funky, summer league like rotations where no matter what the score is he comes out of the game at certain marks each quarter. they are trying to make sure he doesnt wear himself out and are essentially attempting to tank at the same time. they have a pretty deep team though and are actually finding some success. they have good chemistry out there. playing under 30mins/game wont give him the numbers I thought he would have but his path to ROY looks promising nonetheless.

    Kings got off to a rough start and haven't been with a fully healthy roster except the very first game. the 7th & 8th seeds are up for grabs still. I think they will make a run at some point. Im not counting them out.

    Ben Simmons for MVP was a reach but it was worth it at that number. he wont win it. Im a little disappointed because I think they are title contenders if he can implement the jumpshot into his repertoire but he is STILL not shooting them. it is what it is but I dont see the 76ers making noise unless he does that or they trade Embiid and build Ben a more compatible roster that suits his game.

    Trae young. what can I say? just spectacular. he is rising into superstardom. Hawks need to put some talent around him and they'll be a good team for years to come.

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    You are lucky Brandon Clarke is not playing more.
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    congrats to the KC Chiefs on winning the Super bowl. they had a postseason for the ages. goes to show that some things in sports just cannot be measured. you can not calculate the intangibles into a betting line. you can only hope that you are not on the wrong side of the chosen ones. Patty mahomes? Andy Reid? it was their time. NFL season is a wrap officially. had a good season. here are the final results.

    Kyler Murray ROY +160 / risk 1 unit
    Darius Leonard DPOY +3300 / risk 1 unit
    Colts O6.5 season wins -120 / risk 1.2 units
    Colts make playoffs +400 / risk 1 unit
    Chiefs O10.5 season wins -120 / risk 1.2 units

    NFL futures: 3-2, +1.60u
    NFL regular season: 58-35, +23.12u

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    NL Cy Young

    Walker Buehler +700


    Ill speak on this further when we get closer to Opening day. the number is right and Im jumping on it now.


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    D'backs O83.5 season wins -110 (2.5 units)
    D'backs make playoffs +180 (1unit)

    projected lineup:

    1. Starling Marte CF
    2. David Peralta LF
    3. Ketel Marte 2B
    4. Eduardo Escobar 3B
    5. Christian Walker/Jake Lamb 1B (platoon)
    6. Kole Calhoun RF
    7. Nick Ahmed SS
    8. Carson Kelly C
    9. Pitcher P

    projected rotation:

    1. Madison Bumgarner
    2. Robbie Ray
    3. Luke Weaver
    4. Zac Gallen
    5. Mike Leake/Alex Young/Jon Duplantier/Merril Kelly(tons of bottom half depth)

    projected bullpen:

    CL Archie Bradley
    RHP Hector Rondon
    RHP Yoan Lopez
    RHP Junior Guerra
    RHP Kevin Ginkel
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    does anybody know what is supposed to happen with baseball futures placed before the virus? obviously, win totals will be cancelled but what about everything else?

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    i like your picks, but where are you from? gotta be kentucky, oklahoma or indiana. your bets are very centric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sosawestbrook View Post
    does anybody know what is supposed to happen with baseball futures placed before the virus? obviously, win totals will be cancelled but what about everything else?
    all depends on what shops you booked at.

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    Bryce Harper hits over .274 AVG -115 (0.5 unit)
    Bryce Harper hits over 12.5 HR's -115 (0.5 unit)
    Bryce Harper hits over 35.5 RBI's -115 (0.5 unit)


    The richest man in the game is due for a bounce back year. I think people forget Bryce is a world class talent. he's become such a notorious figure that anything other then MVP type stats year after year causes heavy blowback from media & baseball writers alike. he faced a lot of turmoil last season after leaving Washington for the biggest contract ever and then subsequently watching his former team go on to win a World Series. the extra motivation to prove doubters wrong and take his team deep into the playoffs will help & I do think fans not being in the stands this season will benefit his game from a mental standpoint. even though he's def the type of player that thrives off the energy in the stadium, I believe this dynamic will allow him to go back to the fundamentals & what made him a superstar in the first place. he's in his peak years now and has more to prove then ever before. I think we'll see his best year since he won MVP in 2015.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sosawestbrook View Post
    D'backs O83.5 season wins -110 (2.5 units)
    *cancelled & rebet*

    D'backs over 30.5 season wins -115 (2units)

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    quick cleanup active bets

    NBA


    Ja morant ROY +330 / risk 1 unit
    Kings make playoffs +315 / risk 1 unit
    Kings make playoffs +250 / risk 2 units
    Ben Simmons MVP +8000 / risk 0.5 unit
    Ja morant averages O6.5 assists -120 / risk 2.4 units
    Ja morant leads the league in assists +900 / risk 0.5 unit
    Trae young averages O21.5 points -120 / risk 0.6 unit
    Thomas Bryant averages O11.5 points -120 / risk 0.6 unit
    Thomas Bryant averages O6.5 rebounds -120 / risk 0.6 unit
    Buddy Hield averages O20.5 points -120 / risk 0.6 unit
    Marvin Bagley averages O7.5 rebounds -120 / risk 0.6 unit
    Collin sexton averages O17.5 points -120 / risk 0.6 unit

    MLB

    Walker Buehler wins NL CY Young +700 / risk 1 unit
    D'backs over 30.5 season wins -115 / risk 2.3 units
    D'backs make playoffs +180 / risk 1 unit
    Bryce Harper hits over .274 AVG -115 / risk 0.58 unit
    Bryce Harper hits over 12.5 HR's -115 / risk 0.58 unit
    Bryce Harper hits over 35.5 RBI's -115 / risk 0.58 unit

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