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  • firedawg
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    • 10-08-08
    • 39219

    #36
    Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
    not likely
    Maybe
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    • cincinnatikid513
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 11-23-17
      • 45360

      #37
      Originally posted by firedawg
      Maybe
      hes never won here not in great form would wait a little while on tiger
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      • firedawg
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 10-08-08
        • 39219

        #38
        Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
        hes never won here not in great form would wait a little while on tiger
        not betting him
        BUT he could win
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388189

          #39
          Rory soooooo due
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          • cincinnatikid513
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 11-23-17
            • 45360

            #40
            looks like weather will be an issue for this tournament, supposed to rain alot thursday might not play much or at all
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            • kidcudi92
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-14-11
              • 15434

              #41
              Originally posted by firedawg
              not betting him
              BUT he could win
              You could say that about literally anyone in the field


              Not sure if you were trying to act sharp but whatever
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              • jrgum3
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-21-17
                • 7005

                #42
                This course is made for Bubba but this field is tough. I'll probably throw some on him but I really am liking Hideki this week so I'll bet him to win.
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                • cincinnatikid513
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 11-23-17
                  • 45360

                  #43
                  so matt kuchar is a cheap skate


                  Matt Kuchar defends paying caddie $5K on $1.3M win: I 'don't lose sleep over this'

                  PGA Tour pro Matt Kuchar is under fire after a payment dispute with caddie David Giral Ortiz from a tournament went public.
                  He broke his silence on the issue on Wednesday with Golf Channel.
                  “It’s kind of too bad that it’s turned into a story, Kuchar told Golf Channel. “I really didn’t think it was a story because we had an arrangement when I started. … We had an arrangement Tuesday that David was OK with, and I thought Sunday he was very much OK with it.”


                  What the dispute was about

                  Kuchar won the Mayakoba Golf Classic and the $1.296 million prize that came with it in November. He paid Ortiz, aka El Tucan, $5,000 for his work that week.
                  Ortiz is not Kuchar’s regular Tour caddie, but a club caddie from Mexico who worked Kuchar’s bag during the tournament in Playa del Carmen, Mexico. John Wood is Kuchar’s regular caddie.


                  Ortiz was not pleased with his pay for the week and reached out to Kuchar’s agent Mark Steinberg, Golf.com reported on Tuesday.
                  “I am a humble man, who takes care of his family, and works hard,” Ortiz wrote. “I am reaching out to you to see if you can facilitate me receiving a fair amount for my help with Matt winning $1,296,000. I am not looking to disparage Matt or give him a bad name. Fair is fair, and I feel like I was taken advantage of by placing my trust in Matt.


                  Ortiz declined additional $15K

                  Kuchar eventually offered Ortiz an additional $15,000, according to the report.
                  Ortiz declined the offer. He was seeking $50,000, which is the value he placed on his work that week, according to the report.
                  “No thank you,” he told Golf.com. “They can keep their money.”


                  How do caddies get paid?

                  Golf.com notes that $3,000 for a week on a bag for a club caddie like Ortiz would normally be considered a generous offer. But that figure wouldn’t include a payout bonus and win bonus that generally comes with handshake deals.
                  Verbal agreements between players and Tour caddies come with the understanding that a caddie is due 5 percent of a player’s winnings, a number that can increase to 10 percent in the event of a win.
                  Ten percent of Kuchar’s victory at Mayakoba would be approximately $130,000.
                  Kuchar defended his payment and the offer of an additional $15,000, which he confirmed

                  Kuchar: People got into Ortiz’s head

                  “I kind of feel like unfortunately some other people have got it in his head that he’s deserving something different than what we agreed upon,” Kuchar said. “And it’s just too bad that it’s turned into a story, because it doesn’t need to be. We had a great week.”
                  He told Golf Channel that he and Ortiz, whom he met the week of the tournament, agreed to a bonus structure that would have paid him up to $4,000 for the week. He believed his final figure of $5,000 was generous.
                  “I ended up paying him $5,000, and I thought that was more than what we agreed upon,” Kuchar said. “I kind of think, if he had the chance to do it over again, same exact deal, that he’d say yes again.”
                  Kuchar: ‘I certainly don’t lose sleep over this’

                  Kuchar said he doesn’t intend to meet Oritz’s request of $50,000.
                  “It’s done. Listen, I feel like I was fair and good,” he said. “You can’t make everybody happy. You’re not going to buy people’s ability to be OK with you, and this seems to be a social media issue more than anything. I think it shouldn’t be, knowing that there was a complete, agreed-upon deal that not only did I meet but exceeded.
                  “So I certainly don’t lose sleep over this. This is something that I’m quite happy with, and I was really happy for him to have a great week and make a good sum of money. Making $5,000 is a great week.”
                  According to Golf.com, Kuchar is 10th on the PGA career earnings list with more than $46 million.
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                  • vsquare
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 01-08-19
                    • 51

                    #44
                    Considering it is a loaded tournament, who are the best picks for top 10 finish at good odds?
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                    • RudyRuetigger
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-24-10
                      • 65086

                      #45
                      Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                      How do caddies get paid?

                      Golf.com notes that $3,000 for a week on a bag for a club caddie like Ortiz would normally be considered a generous offer. But that figure wouldn’t include a payout bonus and win bonus that generally comes with handshake deals.
                      Verbal agreements between players and Tour caddies come with the understanding that a caddie is due 5 percent of a player’s winnings, a number that can increase to 10 percent in the event of a win.
                      Ten percent of Kuchar’s victory at Mayakoba would be approximately $130,000.
                      Kuchar defended his payment and the offer of an additional $15,000, which he confirmed

                      yea for a fukkin club caddie it is generous

                      but most of those guys travel and stay with other caddies.

                      they have to pay for everything (ofcourse it is a tax write off)

                      3k is nothing for a tour caddie
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                      • firedawg
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 10-08-08
                        • 39219

                        #46
                        I'm still drunk
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                        • Snowball
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 11-15-09
                          • 30042

                          #47
                          Kuchar looks like a stiff.
                          Pay the man 50k or be remembered as a skinflint.

                          Today: Charley Hoffman over Willett
                          tip from Mike Miller, makes sense.

                          Tournament: Phil over Tiger
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                          • RudyRuetigger
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-24-10
                            • 65086

                            #48
                            I assume it was about 2k for a missed cut, 3k for top 25 and 4k for a win?

                            could be beneficial for the caddie, esp if he misses cut
                            once you get the fukkin win, you gotta step it up to 5% of check
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                            • firedawg
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 10-08-08
                              • 39219

                              #49
                              Beer time
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                              • cincinnatikid513
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 11-23-17
                                • 45360

                                #50
                                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                I assume it was about 2k for a missed cut, 3k for top 25 and 4k for a win?

                                could be beneficial for the caddie, esp if he misses cut
                                once you get the fukkin win, you gotta step it up to 5% of check
                                never been a kuchar fan, always smiling all the time
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                                • firedawg
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 10-08-08
                                  • 39219

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                  never been a kuchar fan, always smiling all the time
                                  Lives down the road from me
                                  Good peoples
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                                  • USCPHILLYGUY
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-15-12
                                    • 21744

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                    never been a kuchar fan, always smiling all the time
                                    Caddie signed the contract going in. Could have said no at anytime. Then offered him 15k after the fact and the guy said keep your $$. Fuk him. 5k US in Mexico goes a long way
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                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-24-10
                                      • 65086

                                      #53
                                      id take the 15k and hope for more rounds
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                                      • cincinnatikid513
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 11-23-17
                                        • 45360

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by firedawg
                                        Lives down the road from me
                                        Good peoples
                                        i didn't say he wasn't a good guy, he might be, that smile all the time is creepy, and the guy chokes big time in majors
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                                        • cincinnatikid513
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 11-23-17
                                          • 45360

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                          id take the 15k and hope for more rounds
                                          u just won 1.3 million and u can't break the guy off 50k cmon
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388189

                                            #56
                                            This should be an outstanding tournament with a very solid field
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                                            • USCPHILLYGUY
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-15-12
                                              • 21744

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                              u just won 1.3 million and u can't break the guy off 50k cmon
                                              Why would he? Guys some two bit caddie at a Mexican resort probably making 200 a week doing 25 loops. Obviously the money wasn’t the issue as he said fuk u to the 15k. Actually the contract only stated 4K if he won. He gave him 5. People with money don’t keep living in wealth by just throwing money away.
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                                              • RudyRuetigger
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 08-24-10
                                                • 65086

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                u just won 1.3 million and u can't break the guy off 50k cmon
                                                i agree with you

                                                but if i was that caddie, id just take the 15k and hope to get on another bag
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                                                • USCPHILLYGUY
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 12-15-12
                                                  • 21744

                                                  #59
                                                  So just read the full article on this. Apparently the caddie wasn’t even the one who leaked the story. It was an ex pga pro who started all this. Caddie was fine with what he got that Sunday. 3-4K for a local caddie is apparently the norm
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                                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                    • 65086

                                                    #60
                                                    Tom Gillis?

                                                    wow

                                                    but really, if the caddie was ok with it...why didnt he just take the 15k
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                                                    • cincinnatikid513
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 11-23-17
                                                      • 45360

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                                      So just read the full article on this. Apparently the caddie wasn’t even the one who leaked the story. It was an ex pga pro who started all this. Caddie was fine with what he got that Sunday. 3-4K for a local caddie is apparently the norm
                                                      how was the caddie fine w 4k if he demanded 50k and rejected 15k seems he was not happy w the 4k

                                                      looks like kuchar getting ripped for being cheapo which is good, articles all over the place nice,to see behind that smile guy getting exposed being a cheap skate stiff

                                                      Matt Kuchar somehow defended his embarrassingly low payment to caddie after $1.2M win

                                                      https://www.google.com/amp/s/ftw.usatoday.com/2019/02/matt-kuchar-caddie-mayakoba-5k/amp
                                                      Last edited by cincinnatikid513; 02-14-19, 11:36 AM.
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                                                      • Snowball
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 11-15-09
                                                        • 30042

                                                        #62
                                                        are they going to restart today?
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                                                        • USCPHILLYGUY
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-15-12
                                                          • 21744

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                          how was the caddie fine w 4k if he demanded 50k and rejected 15k seems he was not happy w the 4k

                                                          looks like kuchar getting ripped for being cheapo which is good, articles all over the place nice,to see behind that smile guy getting exposed being a cheap skate stiff

                                                          Matt Kuchar somehow defended his embarrassingly low payment to caddie after $1.2M win

                                                          https://www.google.com/amp/s/ftw.usa...ayakoba-5k/amp
                                                          He signed a contract prior to the event. So if he doesn’t make the cut does he give him 200 (what he claimed he makes per day) or the 2k he agreed with IN THE CONTRACT.

                                                          Im pretty sure he didn’t help out that much. Nice payday for carrying a bag for 4 days if you ask me
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                                                          • cincinnatikid513
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 11-23-17
                                                            • 45360

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Snowball
                                                            are they going to restart today?
                                                            doesn't look good and they are re starting the round so all players who recorded a score get reset


                                                            The next update at the @genesisopen will be made at 1 p.m. PT. When play resumes, all R1 scores will be reset. 10 groups had teed off at the time play was halted.
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                                                            • cincinnatikid513
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 11-23-17
                                                              • 45360

                                                              #65
                                                              looking like another monday finish for the pga tour, thought it doesn't rain in california
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                                                              • jjgold
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-20-05
                                                                • 388189

                                                                #66
                                                                Rain will Fuk this up
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                                                                • CHOICE
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 12-19-13
                                                                  • 354

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                  Rain will Fuk this up
                                                                  They should get some golf in today. Rain is tapering off.
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                                                                  • Snowball
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 11-15-09
                                                                    • 30042

                                                                    #68
                                                                    5 Dimes cancelled Round 1 bets
                                                                    Last edited by Snowball; 02-15-19, 02:04 PM.
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                                                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 08-24-10
                                                                      • 65086

                                                                      #69
                                                                      here is adam scott
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                                                                      • jjgold
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                                        • 388189

                                                                        #70
                                                                        I hate these rain backlogs too much golf for these guys
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