[daneblazer]

According to Rosenthal, that had been proposed by the players union

A universal designated hitter — something the players have sought for more than three decades, according to commissioner Rob Manfred — also was part of the union’s proposal. Under the plan, the National League would adopt the DH for the 2019 season.

The owners want to institute a rule where a pitcher must face a minimum of three batters.

Players say they want the DH in both leagues, as well as, a team to lose better draft benefits for losing so many games by a specified year

A lowering of a team’s draft position for failing to reach a specified win total in a certain number of seasons is believed to be part of the union’s plan.

[cincinnatikid513]

what's next ban shifts because players can't hit the ball the other way

[jrgum3]

I don't like the DH but I'm too old school and like National League baseball better than the American League because of the absence of the DH. I just feel guys should be able to field a position instead of being one dimensional but that's just one mans opinion.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

I don't like the DH but I'm too old school and like National League baseball better than the American League because of the absence of the DH. I just feel guys should be able to field a position instead of being one dimensional but that's just one mans opinion.

agree, they are ruining the game.

[WvGambler]

DH is so generic. Sunday softball bullshit.

[eaglesfan371]

DH is so generic. Sunday softball bullshit.

@WVGambler, off topic, does the betlucky WV app offer spread betting for European soccer matches? Looking at Barcelona vs Real Madrid and have time today to drive over to Charles town later.

[jjgold]

game has been ruined for years

anyone that watches baseball under 65 has issues

[El Nino]

I don't like the DH but I'm too old school and like National League baseball better than the American League because of the absence of the DH. I just feel guys should be able to field a position instead of being one dimensional but that's just one mans opinion.

Pitchers are one dimensional They are just opposite DH. 95% stand there and take 3 strikes, don't run down to first, don't slide. They are only there to throw down a half assed bunt attempt and pad the opposite starting pitcher's K count. Bumgarner is considered a pitcher who rakes, yet he has a career BA of .183.

Plus, with the advent of the modern bullpen, starting pitchers are seeing 2 at bats (less than 6 innings on average) and then are pseudo DH'd for with switches and double switches. Baseball is as boring as ever with more strikeouts than hits. Attendance was down 4.2% average per home game even though MLB games averaged 3 hours this season (a record low). MLB thought that people wanted faster games...in reality, they want less boring games. MLB needs to fix its offense fast. Kids are growing up playing e games, not playing baseball. Sport is dying.

[WvGambler]

@WVGambler, off topic, does the betlucky WV app offer spread betting for European soccer matches? Looking at Barcelona vs Real Madrid and have time today to drive over to Charles town later.

To be honest, I have not looked at a single soccer match in the app. I don’t even know. Sportsbook doesn’t open today til 12pm, and you can’t look at lines til it’s open. I can check it then and let you know, if that’ll give you enough time still.

[RockBottom]

Of course the players want league wide DH and a 26th player. A DH usually is a washed-up player with a big salary.

[oilcountry99]

game has been ruined for years

anyone that watches baseball under 65 has issues

lol, so true

[DrunkHorseplayer]

Universal DH, no shift and pitchers facing at least five batters are the way it should be.

[WvGambler]

@WVGambler, off topic, does the betlucky WV app offer spread betting for European soccer matches? Looking at Barcelona vs Real Madrid and have time today to drive over to Charles town later.

I sent you this in messages too in case you miss it. Book just opened and here’s what they have:

Real Madrid +300
Barcelona -130
Draw +265
R. M. +0.5 (+105)
Barcelona -0.5 (-125)
Over 3 (-120)
Under 3 (+100)

[MinnesotaFats]

Universal DH would wreck the game entirely

The only strategy left in the sport is in day to day NL games

AL manager in 7th inning: "go hit a 3 run homer"

NL manager in 7th inning:"ok, double switch, sub this guy for 3b, this guy for pitcher"

AL manager in 8th inning:"go for the 3 fun homer again"

NL manager in 8th inning:"ok sac bunt guy to 3rd; squueze play to tie up game; get me a lefty & righty in pen going"

AL manager in 9th:"we need a 3 run homer guys"

NL manager in 9th:"double steal, pinch hitter sac fly rbi, closer to finish it off"

AL manager post game:"well we just didn't hit any homers today so we lost"

NL manager after game:"well we used 22 of 25 guys today, it was a team effort and quite a chess game out there, great win we'll do it again tomorrow "

1 game us actually intriguing, the other is predictable

[Mr KLC]

The National League has no intention to adopt the DH anytime soon, NL owners privately say. It quite likely will be a different story when the Collective Bargaining Agreement expires in 2021.

[Bob Loblaw]

Universal DH would wreck the game entirely

The only strategy left in the sport is in day to day NL games

AL manager in 7th inning: "go hit a 3 run homer"

NL manager in 7th inning:"ok, double switch, sub this guy for 3b, this guy for pitcher"

AL manager in 8th inning:"go for the 3 fun homer again"

NL manager in 8th inning:"ok sac bunt guy to 3rd; squueze play to tie up game; get me a lefty & righty in pen going"

AL manager in 9th:"we need a 3 run homer guys"

NL manager in 9th:"double steal, pinch hitter sac fly rbi, closer to finish it off"

AL manager post game:"well we just didn't hit any homers today so we lost"

NL manager after game:"well we used 22 of 25 guys today, it was a team effort and quite a chess game out there, great win we'll do it again tomorrow "

1 game us actually intriguing, the other is predictable

AL manager in the 3rd inning: "go hit a 3 run homer"

NL manager in the 3rd inning: "Just stand at home plate for a few minutes until you've struck out. Don't get winded swinging the bat"

AL manager in the 4th inning: "Go for the 3 run homer again"

NL manager in the 4th inning: "Bases are loaded, go stand at home plate for a few minutes again and let the opposing pitcher out of this huge jam he got himself in and change the game completely cuz you cant swing a lick. We'll give the other team free outs, take runs off the board, keep the opposing pitchers pitch count down, and won't make them go to their bullpen early, but the most important thing is that you don't get winded."

AL manager after the game: "The 3 run homer we got out of the cleanup spot was the big swing in the game. It put us ahead for good and we knocked the opposing pitcher out of the game and made them get into their bullpen early giving us an edge for the remainder of this series"

NL manager after the game: "We lost because we had to forfeit outs in key spots but at least my pitcher didn't get winded."

[Chi_archie]

Universal DH would wreck the game entirely

The only strategy left in the sport is in day to day NL games

AL manager in 7th inning: "go hit a 3 run homer"

NL manager in 7th inning:"ok, double switch, sub this guy for 3b, this guy for pitcher"

AL manager in 8th inning:"go for the 3 fun homer again"

NL manager in 8th inning:"ok sac bunt guy to 3rd; squueze play to tie up game; get me a lefty & righty in pen going"

AL manager in 9th:"we need a 3 run homer guys"

NL manager in 9th:"double steal, pinch hitter sac fly rbi, closer to finish it off"

AL manager post game:"well we just didn't hit any homers today so we lost"

NL manager after game:"well we used 22 of 25 guys today, it was a team effort and quite a chess game out there, great win we'll do it again tomorrow "

1 game us actually intriguing, the other is predictable

yeah

after all these years

you can see how the AL teams are struggling to sell tv rights, tickets, merchandise

[mrpapageorgio]

yeah

after all these years

you can see how the AL teams are struggling to sell tv rights, tickets, merchandise

AL teams having to deal with that horrible DH spot taking away "strategy" from the game....

[VeggieDog]

The game is fine. Leave it alone.

[TheMoneyShot]

The game is fine. Leave it alone.

I agree. Not a huge baseball fan.... but there's no need for new rules.

And teams that shift the infield against a particular batter.... that batter needs to know how to lay a bunt down the 3rd base side... when all the players are shifting RIGHT. lol You pay these batters millions of dollars to not know how to bunt??? And to hit it directly in the shift. This is UNFUKKINGREAL.

Batters that don't know how to hit AWAY from the SHIFT.... <----- That's ruining the game.

[VeggieDog]

I love 3 1/2 hour games. Great time at the ballpark. Drink some beers. Eat a dog. Chat with fellow season ticket holders. Life is good.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

I'd probably lose interest entirely if the NL adopted the DH. I get why the players want that but I would not budge. Give something else to appease them.

Another proposed rule I'm really against is the runner on 2nd base in extra innings. Padres manager, Andy Green, had an interesting take about this. The gist of it was that if you're going to ruin the game, at least make the change entertaining for the fans. He likes the idea of a home run derby where each team gets like 15 pitches spread between x # of hitters...kind of like a shootout in soccer or NHL. I prefer that idea to the runner at 2nd but I hope they just keep things the way they are regarding extra innings.