1. 01-18-19 09:46 AM #1
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    RUDYmentary: Value for recreational bettors

    Value has different meanings depending if you are sharp or square. In this, we are just talking squares. A recreational bettor's value comes from the play plus the entertainment value. We will assume a recreational player is 50/50 on -110 lines, otherwise known as a dart thrower or coin flipper

    So with $110 wagered on -110 line, you expect to win (-$5) each time. HOW?

    Game 1 risked $110 and lost (-$110)
    Game 2 risked $110 and won (+100)

    Net result is -$10 divided by 2 games...meaning you expect to lose $5 for each bet placed.

    In the equation VALUE = play value (x) + entertainment value (y)
    Value = -$5 + y.....

    How long are sports games? We will use 3 hours for NFL,NCAAF...2 hours for NCAAB....and 2.5 hours for NBA and NHL.......that is 2.6 hours, or 156minutes

    Where to go from here?.. Well the entertainment value could be anything you want it to be. HOWEVER, we know something similar that you watch for entertainment value. Movies. The average price of a movie in the theatre for the first quarter of 2018 was $9.16. The average movie length is around 110 minutes.


    When setting up a ratio

    $9.16/110minutes = y/156minutes we find that y = $12.99




    From the equation earlier:

    Value = x + y
    Value = -$5 + $12.99
    Value = $7.99
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  2. 01-18-19 09:52 AM #2
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    so a recreational does have value when placing a bet
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    Excellent post
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  4. 01-18-19 10:01 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Excellent post
    thanks bro

    i am just helping those squares out there see that they are actually getting VALUE



    and also to show their girlfriend/wife as to why they should be betting $110 on a game instead of going to the movies for $9.16


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  5. 01-18-19 10:01 AM #5
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    jjgold is crunching these numbers... will report back
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    jjgold is crunching these numbers... will report back
    better to win than lose

    i am winning as a loser sammy
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    but what if x is squared and y is squared. Then the antiderivative of x squared is odd and it's a friday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsNCharge99 View Post
    but what if x is squared and y is squared. Then the antiderivative of x squared is odd and it's a friday?
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    I remember the day clearly when I dropped out of college. That was what the teacher was teaching on a tuesday class. Why numbers were odd and even based on crazy calculus and antiderivatives.

    We went to class Thursday and she was like ok pop quiz on what we just learned and I'm like get the fukk out of here, i don't understand this at all, this is insane and I walked up and said thank you to the teacher, gave the sorority girl next to me my number and walked out.

    IN retrospect, still the best decision i made
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    sammy why didnt you get her number?

    no fukkin way she called/texted you
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    interesting thread!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    sammy why didnt you get her number?

    no fukkin way she called/texted you
    Actually when I dropped out it was in October. I still lived in my fraternity house until May when school got out. So i worked 35-40 hours a week every week and still got to party and live in the frat house.

    So I followed up on the number and was able to close.

    I was a fraternity legend, still have some of my original events in place now. Still in same frat house that I helped get. Still have the mirrors over the bed that I installed in my room hahaha.

    Remember my dancing videos from the past. Sorority girls knew who I was. That was the best year of my life
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsNCharge99 View Post

    I remember the day clearly when I dropped out of college

    The prior days/months you spent on SBR gave you the strength to walkaway - we helped in molding you to who you are today
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    Quote Originally Posted by HurryUpAndDrink View Post
    interesting thread!!
    thanks bossman
    Quote Originally Posted by SamsNCharge99 View Post
    Actually when I dropped out it was in October. I still lived in my fraternity house until May when school got out. So i worked 35-40 hours a week every week and still got to party and live in the frat house.

    So I followed up on the number and was able to close.

    I was a fraternity legend, still have some of my original events in place now. Still in same frat house that I helped get. Still have the mirrors over the bed that I installed in my room hahaha.

    Remember my dancing videos from the past. Sorority girls knew who I was. That was the best year of my life
    mine was freshman year

    i remember most everything around here, including sammys video

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    much better dancer now hahahaha. But this worked for the time

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    Amazing work

    Only problem for me is I'm a 38% documented loser
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    Rudy let me explain something to you

    Sports Betting is all random, throw out EVERYTHING ELSE
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    Great content provided in this thread.

    thanks for sharing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Rudy let me explain something to you

    Sports Betting is all random, throw out EVERYTHING ELSE
    did you read thread?

    that is why it is better than going to the movies

    fukk man


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  20. 01-18-19 12:45 PM #20
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    JJ took a shot at Professional Gambling years ago and failed... but he says he will be back again someday betting
    with the big boys as a Pro Gambler.
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    maybe it happened

    he is hitting an unreal pace right now

    the super blood wolf moon is this sunday



    ive been around nursing homes and my guess is....his winning streak ends then
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    A really nice looking card here.

    THanks for posting Joey.
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    except for spurettes/TIMBERWOLVES
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