How does Haralabos Voulgaris place bets?

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  • bettingman6
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-21-18
    • 626

    #1
    How does Haralabos Voulgaris place bets?
    I know Billy Walters used to have people who would place bets for him, but I’ve never heard of what Voulgaris does.

    Is there a single sportsbook in the world that would knowingly take Voulgaris’ bets? I doubt it.
  • ans61201
    SBR MVP
    • 10-11-15
    • 3661

    #2
    Going to guess he’s not risking his dream job with the mavs to bet
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    • bettingman6
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 12-21-18
      • 626

      #3
      Originally posted by ans61201
      Going to guess he’s not risking his dream job with the mavs to bet

      Well, how did he bet before the Mavs hired him?
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      • KiDBaZkiT
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-20-09
        • 14962

        #4
        Originally posted by ans61201
        Going to guess he’s not risking his dream job with the mavs to bet
        Please. Who you think talked Dirk into going 0-10 and destroying all momentum the other night? Guy needed the high of winning more than the $
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        • MrSink
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 12-30-08
          • 8087

          #5
          listen to one of his podcasts , he is saying a little bit about that.

          and agree I believe he is done now.
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          • LT Profits
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-27-06
            • 90963

            #6
            Well remember, Voulgaris made his fortune years ago by betting first half NBA lines when books basically posted them at one-half the full game lines, he was way ahead of the curve there and kudos to him. But I have no idea if he continued to win once the books wisened up and started posting accurate 1H lines, so it may not matter much how he got his bets down any more.
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            • cincinnatikid513
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 11-23-17
              • 45360

              #7
              It all had to do with how most bookmakers set their halftime totals, the predicted number of points scored in each half of the game. Each half, of course, is its own discrete period of play, and the fourth quarters of close games can end in elongated foul-clogged stretches of free throws, timeouts, fast play and, hence, a burst of scoring. But incredibly, bookmakers at the time didn’t account for this fact; they simply arrived at a total for the full game and cut that figure roughly down the middle, assigning some 50 percent of the points to the first half and 50 percent to the second.
              For years, Voulgaris exploited this edge, playing both sides of it repeatedly. It is possible to say that it alone made him millions, combined with some keen observations regarding the game-management tendencies of three head coaches: Eddie Jordan, Jerry Sloan and Byron Scott. “Those were three coaches I had nailed perfectly,” Voulgaris, now 37, says. “I knew exactly what they were going to do. I mean, it was a joke, it was so easy.”
              Last edited by cincinnatikid513; 01-15-19, 06:20 AM.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388189

                #8
                Lol

                Guy doesn’t bet anymore he got buried

                Once all of the markets got tight all the so-called pros did not make money any longer
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                • MrSink
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 12-30-08
                  • 8087

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                  Well remember, Voulgaris made his fortune years ago by betting first half NBA lines when books basically posted them at one-half the full game lines, he was way ahead of the curve there and kudos to him. But I have no idea if he continued to win once the books wisened up and started posting accurate 1H lines, so it may not matter much how he got his bets down any more.
                  exactly. he said in podcast that after books adjusted he is not that succesful anymore
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                  • LT Profits
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-27-06
                    • 90963

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    Lol

                    Guy doesn’t bet anymore he got buried

                    Once all of the markets got tight all the so-called pros did not make money any longer
                    I give him credit though for exploiting the edge to the tune of literally MILLIONS before it got plugged up. Surprised there were not more guys that took advantage. (Or maybe there were but they did not become public figures).
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MrSink
                      exactly. he said in podcast that after books adjusted he is not that succesful anymore
                      Boom!

                      So he needs the Dallas job.
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                      • leovegas
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-03-17
                        • 2542

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LT Profits
                        Well remember, Voulgaris made his fortune years ago by betting first half NBA lines when books basically posted them at one-half the full game lines, he was way ahead of the curve there and kudos to him. But I have no idea if he continued to win once the books wisened up and started posting accurate 1H lines, so it may not matter much how he got his bets down any more.
                        He's the thing of the past. Like Steve Fezzik.
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                        • MrSink
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 12-30-08
                          • 8087

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                          Boom!

                          So he needs the Dallas job.
                          haha

                          I think he is still doing allright . few years ago he played in poker tourney for 1milly. noone would stack him there . he is smart dude
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388189

                            #14
                            He is broke like the rest of gamblers

                            They all go bad
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                            • bettingman6
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 12-21-18
                              • 626

                              #15
                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                              Well remember, Voulgaris made his fortune years ago by betting first half NBA lines when books basically posted them at one-half the full game lines, he was way ahead of the curve there and kudos to him. But I have no idea if he continued to win once the books wisened up and started posting accurate 1H lines, so it may not matter much how he got his bets down any more.

                              Voulgaris got buried in December 2004, and stopped betting for years afterwords. He started betting again in 2009 and was again successful. He says he hit about over 60% pre-2004, and has hit about 57% in the 2010s.

                              He regained success after developing the Ewing model. Although he wasn't as successful as before. https://medium.com/@ericcloverwadel/...e-87283f095133
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388189

                                #16
                                the availability of real time line services and technology killed the gambler
                                the pro gambler had big edge years ago

                                Books eventually buried them with top shelf computer programming
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                                • Sam Odom
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-30-05
                                  • 58063

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jjgold

                                  He is broke like the rest of gamblers

                                  They all go bad
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                                  • KiDBaZkiT
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-20-09
                                    • 14962

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    Lol

                                    Once all of the markets got tight all the so-called pros did not make money any longer
                                    True Story.
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                                    • bettingman6
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 12-21-18
                                      • 626

                                      #19
                                      For some reason people don't realize Voulgaris became successful again after developing the Ewing model.
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388189

                                        #20
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                                        • SlickFazzer
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 05-22-08
                                          • 20209

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                          Lol

                                          Guy doesn’t bet anymore he got buried

                                          Once all of the markets got tight all the so-called pros did not make money any longer
                                          the dream of pro gambling might be dead.
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                                          • pavyracer
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 04-12-07
                                            • 82486

                                            #22
                                            He has a network of beards that place the bets for him.
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                                            • SBR Drew
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-08-18
                                              • 7351

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              He is broke like the rest of gamblers

                                              They all go bad
                                              bad or bald?
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388189

                                                #24
                                                bad

                                                guy broke

                                                working real job now
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