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  • DJK
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    • 01-17-11
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    #1
    The Daily Line show said all wiseguy and sharp money are on the Colts and the Pats
    Do you believe that?

    If it's really true, then why in hell is KC line moving up?

    The books are telling the wiseguys to bet more on the Colts?

    It's the same scenario with the Pats and their line went down from -4.5 to -4.0.


    Monies*
  • DJK
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    #2
    Also, Jason Simbal tweeted the following. I guess I need to play all favorite ML parlay then. All home teams are favorites, too. What can possibly go wrong?

    The current splits @CGTechnology_ Colts/Chiefs: 64% of bets on Indy, 55% of money on KCCowboys/Rams 51% of bets on Dallas, 62% of money on LARChargers/Pats: 56% of bets and 83% of money on LACEagles/Saints: 55% of bets on Phi, 73% of money on NO

    Liability to all ML dogs
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    • Easy-Rider 66
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      #3
      Originally posted by DJK
      Do you believe that?

      If it's really true, then why in hell is KC line moving up?

      The books are telling the wiseguys to bet more on the Colts?

      It's the same scenario with the Pats and their line went down from -4.5 to -4.0.


      Monies*
      Could be the buyback. Sharps looking to get a better line on KC and LAC. . Then pound those teams when they do. Maybe the square money is too much on KC and LAC and they are looking to change that. WHO knows?
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      • RangeFinder
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        #4
        Watch out for trying to read too much into that kind of stuff. Half the money hasn't been placed yet. I do think sharps will be on New England late before kick. Also, you may see some late Dallas money hit.

        Good luck.
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        • DJK
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          #5
          The #Colts (+5.5) have 86% of the $$ at @WilliamHillUS books, including a $110K wager yesterday in NJ.

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          • Easy-Rider 66
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            #6
            Originally posted by DJK
            The #Colts (+5.5) have 86% of the $$ at @WilliamHillUS books, including a $110K wager yesterday in NJ.

            Interesting no doubt.
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            • DJK
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              #7
              Based on those information I will still stick with the original ML parlay.

              Dallas +7-110
              Kansas City ML-225
              New England ML-215
              New Orleans ML-400

              Pays +405, so $500 to win $2,025.11.

              But if I find out it's true that all wiseguy/sharp monies are on the Colts, then remove that from the parlay, so

              Dallas +7-110
              New England ML-215
              New Orleans ML-400

              Pays +249, so $500 to win $1,248.
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              • DJK
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                #8
                Wiseguy/Sharp == Public?

                It's true on the Colts.
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                • Easy-Rider 66
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DJK
                  Wiseguy/Sharp == Public?

                  It's true on the Colts.
                  But the sharps may be trying to get that line down and then Pound KC. The Buy Back. If your info is true surprised line is not moving down like you said. Who knows with this stuff?
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                  • Getch13
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                    • 07-13-18
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                    #10
                    Caesars Palace Cowboys at Rams (-7 (-115), 49.5): 51.5 of bets, 70.2 percent of money wagered on the point spread as of 3 hours ago.
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                    • kovacs bar
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                      • 01-10-19
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                      #11
                      Don't give a frizzled fawk who bet what. Only money matter my own.
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                      • DJK
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                        But the sharps may be trying to get that line down and then Pound KC. The Buy Back. If your info is true surprised line is not moving down like you said. Who knows with this stuff?
                        That's the thing. What do the books know that we don't?

                        I'm 99% certain that they have access to stuff we don't to foresee the outcome.

                        I think it's best for me to just not bet that game since I was leaning to Indy but I'm not so sure anymore.
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                        • DJK
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Getch13
                          Caesars Palace Cowboys at Rams (-7 (-115), 49.5): 51.5 of bets, 70.2 percent of money wagered on the point spread as of 3 hours ago.
                          Yes at Caesars that's true. It's the other way around at CG Technology, so they even out and it's not lop-sided.
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                          • Easy-Rider 66
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                            #14
                            Buyback:
                            The money that comes in on the underdog after a favorite is bet heavily enough to move the line.

                            Guess the reverse is also in play possibly here with INDY. Or maybe the sharps and squares are aligned here.
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                            • lakerboy
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                              #15
                              Just make your own bets
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                              • Easy-Rider 66
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by DJK
                                That's the thing. What do the books know that we don't?

                                I'm 99% certain that they have access to stuff we don't to foresee the outcome.

                                I think it's best for me to just not bet that game since I was leaning to Indy but I'm not so sure anymore.
                                Really do not agree with that premise. I think it's more of their liability they are worried about.
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                                • DJK
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                                  #17
                                  As I've said before in my other posts, the public has been wrong so often I just gotta make sure that I'm not on the same side as them, that's all.
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                                  • DJK
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                    Really do not agree with that premise. I think it's more of their liability they are worried about.
                                    You know that they tweeted that over 72% of money was on Bama across all books in Vegas the day before the final and yet the line moved down.

                                    You don't think the books knew and moved the line down to let the public bet more on Bama?
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                                    • Easy-Rider 66
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DJK
                                      As I've said before in my other posts, the public has been wrong so often I just gotta make sure that I'm not on the same side as them, that's all.
                                      Understand your concern but sometimes the public is spot on. LIke Laker said I let it rip mostly with whom I like. Do not trust a lot of the info out there. Who knows what their agenda is?
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                                      • Getch13
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                                        • 07-13-18
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                                        #20
                                        The Greek Sports Book was asked,
                                        Are the Colts a massive public dog as a lot of people are claiming

                                        Replied
                                        Not a massive public dog here but public does like them.

                                        Initial sharp money was on Chiefs at -4.5, -5 and -5.5 but also money on Colts at +6. as of 6 hours ago
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                                        • DJK
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                                          #21
                                          I mean, SBR, Sports Insights, tweets, The Daily Line report are all saying more money on the Colts and yet he line has crept up.

                                          I swear, the Colts are going to get spanked.
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                                          • daneblazer
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                                            Just make your own bets
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                                            • DJK
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Getch13
                                              The Greek Sports Book was asked,
                                              Are the Colts a massive public dog as a lot of people are claiming

                                              Replied
                                              Not a massive public dog here but public does like them.

                                              Initial sharp money was on Chiefs at -4.5, -5 and -5.5 but also money on Colts at +6. as of 6 hours ago
                                              So, it's the initial sharp money that was so massive that they moved the line up?

                                              And now, they betting the other side? We will see if the line drops before the kick off.
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                                              • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DJK
                                                You know that they tweeted that over 72% of money was on Bama across all books in Vegas the day before the final and yet the line moved down.

                                                You don't think the books knew and moved the line down to let the public bet more on Bama?
                                                Unless you believe in fixes no one knows the outcome of a sporting event beforehand. Really do not get all this info and like I said do not pay attention to it. If it's in your wheelhouse fine. I look at injuries, matchups, motivation etc and come up with a plan. Not concerned for most part where the money is.
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                                                • DJK
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                  Unless you believe in fixes no one knows the outcome of a sporting event beforehand. Really do not get all this info and like I said do not pay attention to it. If it's in your wheelhouse fine. I look at injuries, matchups, motivation etc and come up with a plan. Not concerned for most part where the money is.
                                                  Mind if I ask you what sides you are looking to take?

                                                  I like the idea of looking at all those data, so whatever sides you are picking and I'm on the other sides then I may have to rethink.
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                                                  • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by DJK
                                                    Mind if I ask you what sides you are looking to take?

                                                    I like the idea of looking at all those data, so whatever sides you are picking and I'm on the other sides then I may have to rethink.
                                                    In order this is what I like this weekend.

                                                    Under 57 INDY
                                                    LAC +4
                                                    UNDER 47.5 LAC
                                                    NO-8
                                                    LAR-7 Do not feel that confident though. You said you won 10K this year so go with your gut. If I was in your boots that's what I would do. I play real small and involved in a contests where you pick all sides and totals. This really can be a guessing game. GL.
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                                                    • jjgold
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                                                      #27
                                                      There’s no such thing as a sharp or a wiseguy I laugh every time I hear the phrase
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                                                      • daneblazer
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                                                        #28
                                                        Think about it. Who the fukk at the window or site is keeping tabs on “sharp money”. They’re just big bets that stick out and they could just as easily have been placed by a guy with no clue
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                                                        • DJK
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                          In order this is what I like this weekend.

                                                          Under 57 INDY
                                                          LAC +4
                                                          UNDER 47.5 LAC
                                                          NO-8
                                                          LAR-7 Do not feel that confident though. You said you won 10K this year so go with your gut. If I was in your boots that's what I would do. I play real small and involved in a contests where you pick all sides and totals. This really can be a guessing game. GL.
                                                          Thanks for the info. I should be careful not to give back what I already won, but I have too much cash on hand when I'm heading to AC tomorrow morning for the weekend. Because there aren't too many football games left, when things go wrong, I'm liable to go nuts and lose big by Sunday.
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                                                          • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by daneblazer
                                                            Think about it. Who the fukk at the window or site is keeping tabs on “sharp money”. They’re just big bets that stick out and they could just as easily have been placed by a guy with no clue
                                                            Yeah good point.
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                                                            • DJK
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by daneblazer
                                                              Think about it. Who the fukk at the window or site is keeping tabs on “sharp money”. They’re just big bets that stick out and they could just as easily have been placed by a guy with no clue
                                                              Actually, two clerks I placed my bets with at Sugar House were dead on about the public money that they lost. I didn't ask until after I placed my bets and lost big. Just saying I don't like to side with whichever side has a lot more money on it. That's all.
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                                                              • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by DJK
                                                                Thanks for the info. I should be careful not to give back what I already won, but I have too much cash on hand when I'm heading to AC tomorrow morning for the weekend. Because there aren't too many football games left, when things go wrong, I'm liable to go nuts and lose big by Sunday.
                                                                Yeah do not give it back. Play small enjoy your winnings from 2018. One high wager bad beat and you could be chasing big time. Ain't worth the stretch. Learned that lesson the hard way many years ago.
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                                                                • daneblazer
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by DJK
                                                                  Based on those information I will still stick with the original ML parlay.

                                                                  Dallas +7-110
                                                                  Kansas City ML-225
                                                                  New England ML-215
                                                                  New Orleans ML-400

                                                                  Pays +405, so $500 to win $2,025.11.

                                                                  But if I find out it's true that all wiseguy/sharp monies are on the Colts, then remove that from the parlay, so

                                                                  Dallas +7-110
                                                                  New England ML-215
                                                                  New Orleans ML-400

                                                                  Pays +249, so $500 to win $1,248.
                                                                  I actually like these.
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                                                                  • Fade2Win
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    quarterbacks making their first start in the playoffs dont do well at all its like 14-32 Straight up since 2002.



                                                                    Dallas ml and Colts ml one will win maybe both
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                                                                    • DJK
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      DraftKing has a free bet offer to match up to $500 of your first bet.

                                                                      I'm going to place $500 bet online on a team and bet the other side for $500 at the cage. So, I lose $45 on the juice.

                                                                      Then, I get that $500 free bet, so that's going on the ML parlay.

                                                                      At worst, I'll be out $45, which I should be able to get back playing casino games since I will be in AC for the weekend.

                                                                      But, if I win my ML parlay, then I'm up $1,248 minus $45 juice for $1,203.

                                                                      And, I won't be sweating the games since it's only $45 risked in reality.
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