1. 10-25-18 01:24 AM #71
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    I actually agree with you guys that Rivers is slightly better and Eli, but I judge a man by how he does against the Patriots. Eli has beaten them twice in the Super Bowl and Philip Rivers never had a big win against the Patriots or anyone in the playoffs.
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  2. 10-25-18 10:02 AM #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    He has a 4 and 20 record since the wild card game loss to the Packers.
    He's a pick six waiting to happen, he's immobile, he holds the ball way to long, look at his eyes it's as if he doesn't even know where he is at times. What do you want to do with him?
    The Giants will never be relevant again with Eli under center.
    This is a business, ever see the Godfather? Nothing personal Eli, it's just business.
    Willie Mays was worshiped in SF, they sent him off because they knew he was done.
    Same with Johnny Unitas, the list of former great athletes that were sent packing because they were spent is endless.
    You don't keep Eli because what he did 10 years ago if he's not going to help you win.
    Once again, it's a business, he's smart enough to know this.
    im ok with getting rid of him.. but id rather they cut him than trading to buffalo
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  3. 10-25-18 10:05 AM #73
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    Everything will die down in the media for a little bit after Sunday when the Giants beat Washington
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  4. 10-25-18 10:06 AM #74
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    And the Giants will realize in about 2-3 yrs that Shurmur is not the answer
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  5. 10-25-18 10:08 AM #75
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    Rivers not just better than Eli but Rapistberger as well
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  6. 10-25-18 10:09 AM #76
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    Not to steer away from Eli talk but Nate Solder has been TERRIBLE!! Highest paid tackle. Are u kidding me
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  7. 10-25-18 10:45 AM #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegades View Post
    Not to steer away from Eli talk but Nate Solder has been TERRIBLE!! Highest paid tackle. Are u kidding me
    they've all been pretty bad. Eli not playing good football but id be hard pressed to find a QB who wouldn't be shook when he literally has defenders in his face on every snap the second he catches it.
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  8. 10-25-18 12:58 PM #78
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    nate was done after the pats IMO...
    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    they've all been pretty bad. Eli not playing good football but id be hard pressed to find a QB who wouldn't be shook when he literally has defenders in his face on every snap the second he catches it.
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  9. 10-25-18 01:06 PM #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    nate was done after the pats IMO...
    Gettleman loves overpaying bad Offensive linemen.
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  10. 10-25-18 01:14 PM #80
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    Giants should pick up Chad Kelley, his uncle is close by and might be able to keep him in line. At least he's more mobile than Eli.
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  11. 10-25-18 01:46 PM #81
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    Btw, The Giants should consider shutting down Barkley for the year at some point. Imagine if he blew out his knee in a meaningless game?
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  12. 10-25-18 01:57 PM #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Agreed, draft a NCAA stud QB and groom him.
    It is why i don't like Cousins either. Just killer mistakes at the very worst time. But if i had the choice i would easily take Cousins over Carr
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  13. 10-25-18 02:03 PM #83
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    Shelf life of a RB compared to a QB IMO makes me think they made the wrong call. Barkley is nice, but having Darnold would make them a lot better IMO. The QB class isn't that great this coming draft and the top QB is going to stay in school to play with his brother, and the NY media will not let the giants keep losing. IMO the Giants need to target Lamar Jackson via trade, or if the Ravens want to dump Flacco, take him until a real big QB is available. Barkley is a great weapon but you don't get 10-15 years out of them, your lucky to get 4-5 good seasons.
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  14. 10-25-18 02:06 PM #84
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    Rivers and Stratford most underrated QB... And they both better than Eli... Much better... I rest my case...
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  15. 10-25-18 05:46 PM #85
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    It's unbelievable what Tom Brady is doing at age 41.
    He's not human. He's not.
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  16. 10-29-18 07:28 PM #86
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  17. 10-29-18 08:33 PM #87
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    so hc

    love that shit
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  18. 10-29-18 10:29 PM #88
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    Looks like I and many were right
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  19. 10-29-18 11:16 PM #89
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    right now, the giants could be in the hole a qb and a rb

    josh allen was always terrible so the bills caught a break with him being worthless
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  20. 10-30-18 07:59 AM #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    Btw, The Giants should consider shutting down Barkley for the year at some point. Imagine if he blew out his knee in a meaningless game?
    Forget that. Run him into the ground
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  21. 10-30-18 08:10 AM #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Looks like I and many were right
    not even close. we already know Saquon is great. not so sure about Darnold or Allen or Rosen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    not even close. we already know Saquon is great. not so sure about Darnold or Allen or Rosen.
    the collective "we" have known this since freshman year training camp

    psu was coming off the fake sanctions and nobody could tackle him
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    Quote Originally Posted by reigle9 View Post
    the collective "we" have known this since freshman year training camp

    psu was coming off the fake sanctions and nobody could tackle him
    I knew the second I saw him clean pressing 405lbs listening to Dreams and Nightmares
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  24. 10-30-18 10:29 AM #94
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    Barkley is an elite talent.

    Top 5 RB right now.

    Will Sam Darnold ever be an elite QB? Pretty unlikely. Same for Allen and Rosen.
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  25. 10-30-18 10:31 AM #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by reigle9 View Post
    josh allen was always terrible so the bills caught a break with him being worthless
    I don't follow how the Bills caught a break.
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  26. 11-09-18 07:36 PM #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    Barkley is an elite talent.

    Top 5 RB right now.

    Will Sam Darnold ever be an elite QB? Pretty unlikely. Same for Allen and Rosen.
    Bark is second in the NFL in yards gained from scrimmage.
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  27. 11-09-18 08:04 PM #97
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    Is anybody getting excited about Mayfield or Darnold?
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