It's getting closer, and I will 100% be done w/ offshore. I'm going to continue supporting this site, but once we're good to go here, I won't place another wager online.
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06-13-18 11:48 AM #1
Sports Gambling in Michigan
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06-13-18 12:01 PM #2
Why would anyone wanna drive too a sports book when you can place wager from your pockets fella
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06-13-18 12:05 PM #3
The casino is fun, but for the anti social crowd, wagering will be allowed online. So, you tell me, why bet offshore if you'll be allowed to do it online through a local casino?
Originally Posted by ikid2groove415
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06-13-18 12:06 PM #4
Make sure MI has reasonable juice before you totally abandon offshore wagering
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06-13-18 12:14 PM #5
exactly Originally Posted by MMANick
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06-13-18 12:20 PM #6
I’m guessing offshore might have better bonus and lines Originally Posted by MMANick
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06-13-18 12:22 PM #7
plus fees to deposit Originally Posted by ikid2groove415
illegal for banks
plus fees to withdraw
extra time, rollover requirements
no law providing they have to pay if you win
etc etc etc
so if i wanna fukkin pound red sox at -115 instead of -110, yes ill just go ahead and do that
only guys that will stay offshore are guys that will come in laughing at that, which means only sharps or as i like to call them, PENNY PUSHERS
that money will dry up QUICK
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06-13-18 12:24 PM #8
All good points Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger
but ... if they can't offer 10 cent lines then it makes it impossible
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06-13-18 12:41 PM #9
Offshores will do everything they can to maintain there customers fella- it only benefits US PLAYERS Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger
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06-13-18 12:46 PM #10
Juice will strangle you if you are a volume bettor who is actually trying to make $. You should see what triggers CTR's as well. Way too early to give up on offshore.
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06-13-18 12:48 PM #11
Much less options, more juice, taxes and worse odds just to name a few Originally Posted by MMANick
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06-13-18 12:49 PM #12
WRONG Originally Posted by ikid2groove415
hey bro, why do you think illegal offshore lottery isnt offered anywhere that i know of and noone plays it in USA?
usa lottery is biggest scam there is with the payouts per dollar risked
you see that offered offshore?
what a clown show
i see kids are out of school for the summer
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06-13-18 01:09 PM #13
Puto Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger
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06-13-18 01:11 PM #14
like I said there will be approx 75% retention rate with offshore players
Players are going to see legal places cannot compete with low cost offshore places and stay with them and probably still have a legal place which is fine
Every regular bettor in Vegas I knew played offshore also
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06-13-18 01:31 PM #15
Offshore needs to reduce/eliminate the rollover requirements if they want to entice people with their bonuses. If you're a volume bettor I get it, but if you're just a casual bettor or one that only bets on certain games/events, it's worthless to you to have your deposit tied up.
It also wouldn't shock me if eventually the legal books in a casino simply offer juice that's at or slightly above break even just to get bodies into the casino and hope you'll drop your sports winnings in a slot machine or Blackjack table as you're leaving.
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06-13-18 01:33 PM #16
because the lines will be bad in michigan Originally Posted by MMANick
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06-13-18 01:43 PM #17
Detroit will have good lines, probably -105 to -110, with 3 casinos within a mile of each other all competing for business. They have different bad beat jackpots for poker and various players perks to compete right now. And I doubt they’ll all 3 use William Hill lines. Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513
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06-13-18 01:44 PM #18
Not correct. Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513
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06-13-18 01:48 PM #19
They key is states need multiple companies
Delaware is already terrible because 1 state line
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06-13-18 01:48 PM #20
Michigan is loaded with casinos. Originally Posted by jjgold
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06-13-18 01:51 PM #21
I don't believe you're even asking this question. Originally Posted by ikid2groove415
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06-13-18 01:56 PM #22
And when I bet lines change at least 50% of the time, and you get jerked around on payouts. There are fees if you don't want to do BTC on everything. They'll deny your BTC payouts if you deposit with anything other than BTC.
When you're winning they really pay attention to you. When you're losing, you're just an ATM. Deposit anyway you want, but you can only get this form of payout, for this much money, and oh yeah there is a fee. Also, it could take up to 48 hours before we get to your payout. Fukkin blow me.
Do this verification form for the 5th time this year and blah, blah, blah.
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06-13-18 02:05 PM #23
never sweated an online payout or been stiffed in 15 yrs
only had verification 1 time...but i do not take bonuses or use CC..ever
and the casinos are also paying attention if u win as well considering 1k bet needs approval so far and limits are based on ur past wagers..and so is the tax man
im sure some will choose 1 or other for various reasons, i just cant find a single reason I would go to my state casino over online and but many many to reasons stay offshore
just personal prefrencesLast edited by 5mike5; 06-13-18 at 02:12 PM.
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06-13-18 02:24 PM #24
Definitely. And we all have different experiences. I get the run around a lot and I'm just done with it. Keep winning and you get treated like shit. Originally Posted by 5mike5
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06-13-18 02:26 PM #25
Originally Posted by MMANick
totally agree, and I couldn't begin to tell u the things I have to do about that part
, but its worth it for now
everything has a drawback
they offering mma stuff Nick? no nascar as of yetLast edited by 5mike5; 06-13-18 at 02:31 PM.
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06-13-18 02:29 PM #26
I tried to use a different book than 5D today, it was BM. I was going to do a CC deposit, and I'm not allowed to do that because of a payout issue from another book... A payout issue, how is that my fault?
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06-13-18 02:41 PM #27
If there is no MMA, I'll have to still use an offshore book, but that'll be all I use it for and I'll be pretty upset lol Originally Posted by 5mike5
totally agree, and I couldn't begin to tell u the things I have to do about that part, but its worth it for now
everything has a drawback
they offering mma stuff Nick? no nascar as of yet
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06-13-18 02:47 PM #28
im sure there will be...there will be nascar i heard, but think the couple early states wanted to get off ground first with more main stream stuff maybe Originally Posted by MMANick
keep us updated when it starts up bud..GL
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06-13-18 02:55 PM #29
I cannot see myself playing at USA books when my state gets it
I am too spoiled
matchbook
pinnacle
5Dimes
Heritage
It makes zero sense maybe others it makes sense
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06-13-18 03:39 PM #30
where will books be big cities
Last edited by cincinnatikid513; 06-13-18 at 03:55 PM.
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06-13-18 03:47 PM #31
Why go out and then drive to a legal casino to bet sports when you can get all your bets in online? Can also search books online for best odds.. I'll never give up online sports gambling even if a Casino opened up right next door to me...
The only advantage I see to betting in a land Casino is that you get your payout and winnings right after the game in hard cash..
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06-13-18 03:58 PM #32
I've been screwed several times. Straight up thieves. Intertops headlined here got me for $1500. Money is never safe online.
Originally Posted by 5mike5
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06-13-18 04:03 PM #33
no paper trail Originally Posted by JIBBBY
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06-13-18 04:09 PM #34
just speaking with my experiences..thankfully havent been stiffed 1 dollar in my years Originally Posted by no1here
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06-13-18 04:10 PM #35
States will have plenty of that lol Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513
Last edited by 5mike5; 06-13-18 at 04:15 PM.
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