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  • MMANick
    SBR MVP
    • 12-06-16
    • 4075

    #1
    Sports Gambling in Michigan
    It's getting closer, and I will 100% be done w/ offshore. I'm going to continue supporting this site, but once we're good to go here, I won't place another wager online.
  • ikid2groove415
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-08-18
    • 11981

    #2
    Why would anyone wanna drive too a sports book when you can place wager from your pockets fella
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    • MMANick
      SBR MVP
      • 12-06-16
      • 4075

      #3
      Originally posted by ikid2groove415
      Why would anyone wanna drive too a sports book when you can place wager from your pockets fella
      The casino is fun, but for the anti social crowd, wagering will be allowed online. So, you tell me, why bet offshore if you'll be allowed to do it online through a local casino?
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      • inter1097
        SBR Sharp
        • 10-04-09
        • 459

        #4
        Make sure MI has reasonable juice before you totally abandon offshore wagering
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        • RudyRuetigger
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-24-10
          • 65086

          #5
          Originally posted by MMANick
          The casino is fun, but for the anti social crowd, wagering will be allowed online. So, you tell me, why bet offshore if you'll be allowed to do it online through a local casino?
          exactly
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          • ikid2groove415
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-08-18
            • 11981

            #6
            Originally posted by MMANick
            The casino is fun, but for the anti social crowd, wagering will be allowed online. So, you tell me, why bet offshore if you'll be allowed to do it online through a local casino?
            I’m guessing offshore might have better bonus and lines
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            • RudyRuetigger
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-24-10
              • 65086

              #7
              Originally posted by ikid2groove415
              I’m guessing offshore might have better bonus and lines
              plus fees to deposit

              illegal for banks

              plus fees to withdraw

              extra time, rollover requirements

              no law providing they have to pay if you win

              etc etc etc


              so if i wanna fukkin pound red sox at -115 instead of -110, yes ill just go ahead and do that

              only guys that will stay offshore are guys that will come in laughing at that, which means only sharps or as i like to call them, PENNY PUSHERS

              that money will dry up QUICK
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              • johnnyvegas13
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 05-21-15
                • 27835

                #8
                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                plus fees to deposit

                illegal for banks

                plus fees to withdraw

                extra time, rollover requirements

                no law providing they have to pay if you win

                etc etc etc


                so if i wanna fukkin pound red sox at -115 instead of -110, yes ill just go ahead and do that
                All good points

                but ... if they can't offer 10 cent lines then it makes it impossible
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                • ikid2groove415
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-08-18
                  • 11981

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                  plus fees to deposit

                  illegal for banks

                  plus fees to withdraw

                  extra time, rollover requirements

                  no law providing they have to pay if you win

                  etc etc etc


                  so if i wanna fukkin pound red sox at -115 instead of -110, yes ill just go ahead and do that

                  only guys that will stay offshore are guys that will come in laughing at that, which means only sharps or as i like to call them, PENNY PUSHERS

                  that money will dry up QUICK
                  Offshores will do everything they can to maintain there customers fella- it only benefits US PLAYERS
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                  • El Nino
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-03-12
                    • 18426

                    #10
                    Juice will strangle you if you are a volume bettor who is actually trying to make $. You should see what triggers CTR's as well. Way too early to give up on offshore.
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                    • 5mike5
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-21-11
                      • 51844

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MMANick
                      The casino is fun, but for the anti social crowd, wagering will be allowed online. So, you tell me, why bet offshore if you'll be allowed to do it online through a local casino?
                      Much less options, more juice, taxes and worse odds just to name a few
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                      • RudyRuetigger
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-24-10
                        • 65086

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                        Offshores will do everything they can to maintain there customers fella- it only benefits US PLAYERS
                        WRONG

                        hey bro, why do you think illegal offshore lottery isnt offered anywhere that i know of and noone plays it in USA?

                        usa lottery is biggest scam there is with the payouts per dollar risked

                        you see that offered offshore?

                        what a clown show

                        i see kids are out of school for the summer
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                        • ikid2groove415
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-08-18
                          • 11981

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                          WRONG

                          hey bro, why do you think illegal offshore lottery isnt offered anywhere that i know of and noone plays it in USA?

                          usa lottery is biggest scam there is with the payouts per dollar risked

                          you see that offered offshore?

                          what a clown show

                          i see kids are out of school for the summer
                          Puto
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388189

                            #14
                            like I said there will be approx 75% retention rate with offshore players

                            Players are going to see legal places cannot compete with low cost offshore places and stay with them and probably still have a legal place which is fine

                            Every regular bettor in Vegas I knew played offshore also
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                            • mrpapageorgio
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-07-17
                              • 2974

                              #15
                              Offshore needs to reduce/eliminate the rollover requirements if they want to entice people with their bonuses. If you're a volume bettor I get it, but if you're just a casual bettor or one that only bets on certain games/events, it's worthless to you to have your deposit tied up.

                              It also wouldn't shock me if eventually the legal books in a casino simply offer juice that's at or slightly above break even just to get bodies into the casino and hope you'll drop your sports winnings in a slot machine or Blackjack table as you're leaving.
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                              • cincinnatikid513
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 11-23-17
                                • 45360

                                #16
                                Originally posted by MMANick
                                The casino is fun, but for the anti social crowd, wagering will be allowed online. So, you tell me, why bet offshore if you'll be allowed to do it online through a local casino?
                                because the lines will be bad in michigan
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                                • DOM_Toretto
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 01-28-13
                                  • 9035

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                  because the lines will be bad in michigan
                                  Detroit will have good lines, probably -105 to -110, with 3 casinos within a mile of each other all competing for business. They have different bad beat jackpots for poker and various players perks to compete right now. And I doubt they’ll all 3 use William Hill lines.
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                                  • MMANick
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-06-16
                                    • 4075

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                    because the lines will be bad in michigan
                                    Not correct.
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388189

                                      #19
                                      They key is states need multiple companies

                                      Delaware is already terrible because 1 state line
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                                      • MMANick
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-06-16
                                        • 4075

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        They key is states need multiple companies

                                        Delaware is already terrible because 1 state line
                                        Michigan is loaded with casinos.
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                                        • floridagolfer
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-19-08
                                          • 2757

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                          Why would anyone wanna drive too a sports book when you can place wager from your pockets fella
                                          I don't believe you're even asking this question.
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                                          • MMANick
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-06-16
                                            • 4075

                                            #22
                                            And when I bet lines change at least 50% of the time, and you get jerked around on payouts. There are fees if you don't want to do BTC on everything. They'll deny your BTC payouts if you deposit with anything other than BTC.

                                            When you're winning they really pay attention to you. When you're losing, you're just an ATM. Deposit anyway you want, but you can only get this form of payout, for this much money, and oh yeah there is a fee. Also, it could take up to 48 hours before we get to your payout. Fukkin blow me.

                                            Do this verification form for the 5th time this year and blah, blah, blah.
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                                            • 5mike5
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 09-21-11
                                              • 51844

                                              #23
                                              never sweated an online payout or been stiffed in 15 yrs

                                              only had verification 1 time...but i do not take bonuses or use CC..ever

                                              and the casinos are also paying attention if u win as well considering 1k bet needs approval so far and limits are based on ur past wagers..and so is the tax man

                                              im sure some will choose 1 or other for various reasons, i just cant find a single reason I would go to my state casino over online and but many many to reasons stay offshore

                                              just personal prefrences
                                              Last edited by 5mike5; 06-13-18, 02:12 PM.
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                                              • MMANick
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-06-16
                                                • 4075

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                never sweated an online payout or been stiffed in 15 yrs

                                                only had verification 1 time...but i do not take bonuses or use CC..ever

                                                and the casinos are also paying attention if u win as well considering 1k bet needs approval so far and limits are based on ur past wagers..and so is the tax man

                                                im sure some will choose 1 or other for various reasons, i just cant find a single reason I would go to my state casino over online and but many many to reasons stay offshore

                                                just personal prefrences
                                                Definitely. And we all have different experiences. I get the run around a lot and I'm just done with it. Keep winning and you get treated like shit.
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                                                • 5mike5
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 09-21-11
                                                  • 51844

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by MMANick
                                                  Definitely. And we all have different experiences. I get the run around a lot and I'm just done with it. Keep winning and you get treated like shit.


                                                  totally agree, and I couldn't begin to tell u the things I have to do about that part , but its worth it for now

                                                  everything has a drawback


                                                  they offering mma stuff Nick? no nascar as of yet
                                                  Last edited by 5mike5; 06-13-18, 02:31 PM.
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                                                  • MMANick
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-06-16
                                                    • 4075

                                                    #26
                                                    I tried to use a different book than 5D today, it was BM. I was going to do a CC deposit, and I'm not allowed to do that because of a payout issue from another book... A payout issue, how is that my fault?
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                                                    • MMANick
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-06-16
                                                      • 4075

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by 5mike5


                                                      totally agree, and I couldn't begin to tell u the things I have to do about that part , but its worth it for now

                                                      everything has a drawback


                                                      they offering mma stuff Nick? no nascar as of yet
                                                      If there is no MMA, I'll have to still use an offshore book, but that'll be all I use it for and I'll be pretty upset lol
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                                                      • 5mike5
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-21-11
                                                        • 51844

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by MMANick
                                                        If there is no MMA, I'll have to still use an offshore book, but that'll be all I use it for and I'll be pretty upset lol
                                                        im sure there will be...there will be nascar i heard, but think the couple early states wanted to get off ground first with more main stream stuff maybe

                                                        keep us updated when it starts up bud..GL
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                                                        • jjgold
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-20-05
                                                          • 388189

                                                          #29
                                                          I cannot see myself playing at USA books when my state gets it

                                                          I am too spoiled
                                                          matchbook
                                                          pinnacle
                                                          5Dimes
                                                          Heritage

                                                          It makes zero sense maybe others it makes sense
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                                                          • cincinnatikid513
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 11-23-17
                                                            • 45360

                                                            #30
                                                            where will books be big cities
                                                            Last edited by cincinnatikid513; 06-13-18, 03:55 PM.
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                                                            • JIBBBY
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 12-10-09
                                                              • 83691

                                                              #31
                                                              Why go out and then drive to a legal casino to bet sports when you can get all your bets in online? Can also search books online for best odds.. I'll never give up online sports gambling even if a Casino opened up right next door to me...

                                                              The only advantage I see to betting in a land Casino is that you get your payout and winnings right after the game in hard cash..
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                                                              • no1here
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 03-23-09
                                                                • 5914

                                                                #32
                                                                I've been screwed several times. Straight up thieves. Intertops headlined here got me for $1500. Money is never safe online.

                                                                Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                                never sweated an online payout or been stiffed in 15 yrs

                                                                only had verification 1 time...but i do not take bonuses or use CC..ever

                                                                and the casinos are also paying attention if u win as well considering 1k bet needs approval so far and limits are based on ur past wagers..and so is the tax man

                                                                im sure some will choose 1 or other for various reasons, i just cant find a single reason I would go to my state casino over online and but many many to reasons stay offshore

                                                                just personal prefrences
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                                                                • cincinnatikid513
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 11-23-17
                                                                  • 45360

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                  Why go out and then drive to a legal casino to bet sports when you can get all your bets in online? Can also search books online for best odds.. I'll never give up online sports gambling even if a Casino opened up right next door to me...

                                                                  The only advantage I see to betting in a land Casino is that you get your payout and winnings right after the game in hard cash..
                                                                  no paper trail
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                                                                  • 5mike5
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 09-21-11
                                                                    • 51844

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by no1here
                                                                    I've been screwed several times. Straight up thieves. Intertops headlined here got me for $1500. Money is never safe online.
                                                                    just speaking with my experiences..thankfully havent been stiffed 1 dollar in my years
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                                                                    • 5mike5
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 09-21-11
                                                                      • 51844

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                                      no paper trail
                                                                      States will have plenty of that lol
                                                                      Last edited by 5mike5; 06-13-18, 04:15 PM.
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