Nine, MyBookie, GCS post merger feedback wanted.

**marc** · 12-25-05, 02:09 PM

payouts are really quick. But they are still cut limits for no clear reason. Two years ago I played at parlaybook and I was a net loser. So last year they called me and offered me a reup bonus which would include a netloss bonus from the prvious year. I took it, and lost again. This year, again they called and offered me a netloss bonus for last year plusa regular reup bonus. So I sent them $2500. I lost it, and they offered to give me another reup bonus. This time I won 5k. But for the season, I'm only up $2500. And overall I'm still down. I then requested a $2500 withdrawal. THey proccessed it right away. But the next time I went to place a wager, my limits were cut to $200.

They certainly have the right to pick and choose whose bsuiness they want. I just don't understand their logic. If it was something about my plays that they didn't like, why wait for me to request a withdrawal, before cutting my limits. IF it was the fact that i won, why not take into account that over the life of my account I'm still down. Other books like Legendz are also like this. I just don't get it

**BAUS** · 12-25-05, 02:57 PM

They are a firm "B".

I recently opened an account, sending $2500. 10% bonus added automatically. When I tried to place a bet, my limits were only $100. When I inquired about it, they told me that "all new account have $100 limits for 10 days so we can determine your type of action".

I told them I wasn't going to waste my time, and requested a payout, which I received promptly, no fees.

They just succeeded in driving away a player who deposited cash. They can decide who let in their book, of course, but I may have won, I may have lost. But now they will never know and they never had the chance to "earn" my money. Bad business, IMO.

If they have all this strong backing of VIP behind them, why can't they loosen up their policies a little? What could they really stand to lose? I don't get it.

BAUS

**Santo** · 12-25-05, 03:57 PM

They tried that 10 day stunt with me, though apparantly I got through to the right guy (via TheRX) and had it lifted. They were $1000, then $500, now $300... I might ask for a review again soon.

**Dave** · 12-25-05, 04:15 PM

submit a review

**marc** · 12-25-05, 04:22 PM

The beauty of being a credit shop is that you get the players through agents. And presumably the agents screen the players for you, as its in everyones best interest to only take on players who lose.

The great thing about post up players, is that you get thier money upfront and don't have to chase them down when they lose.

The impression I'm getting from this 10 day screening proccess is that they are trying to fgure out how to get the best of both worlds, and as Baus said, all they are going to do is chase players away.

What I don't understand is why hire a line amnager with as much experience as Rick, if the strategy is to simply carefully pick and choose your players. YOu don't need a great lineman for that. And if they are really going to limit new players to $100 maximums, they should put a cap on how much new players can deposit. They shouldn't be accepting $2500 deposits from people whom they won't allow to place wagers for 10 days.

And I'd love to know what they are thinking. Do they really believe that anyone who is looking to bet a few hundred dollars agame, is really going to take the time to even look at their lines if they know the max wager is $100

I think they really need to rehtink their strategy. And its a shame, because it could be a great book. They offer more lines than most other books. One of the few books aside from Pinny, that offers totals on all the ncaab games.

**pags11** · 12-26-05, 02:07 AM

I say hold strong john and when more players come forward with stronger reviews, then bump them up...as I'm sure you guys will do...

**bigboydan** · 12-26-05, 02:18 AM

Originally posted by SBR_John

VIP is not to happy with our B rating of MyBookie since they now own them. Their arguement is they should be rated closer to their own A+ rating.

John, I don't care what they want. If they want an A+ they gotta earn it, just like everyone else does. just because they own them now doesn't neccesarrily mean they deserve an A+ by association.

I'm sorry if i'm out of line here on this one. but, thats just the way i feel.

**Illusion** · 12-26-05, 02:28 AM

Originally posted by bigboydan

John, I don't care what they want. If they want an A+ they gotta earn it, just like everyone else does. just because they own them now doesn't neccesarrily mean they deserve an A+ by association.

I'm sorry if i'm out of line here on this one. but, thats just the way i feel.

You aren't out of line dan. Hell, I feel the same way.

**raiders72001** · 12-26-05, 03:07 AM

I know that it hurts many players to have there limits slashed but does SBR take this into consideration in the ratings of a book? I don't see why it should as long as your money is safe and payouts are fast.

**JoshW** · 12-26-05, 10:54 AM

I might try them again, but IMO they are one of the worst paying books out there. $100 limits for 10 days, if that is a A+ book I might as well give up on the industry. The way they are run now puts them so far out of the league of Bodog, WSEX, and Bowmans it is a joke. Even VIP is still so far ahead of them.

If they are given a higher rating it is an insult to a lot of quality books on the top of this page.

AK · 12-26-05, 11:26 AM

I have had zero problems with this group.

SOLID SHOP

Give mybookie an A

**DamianDunlap** · 12-26-05, 05:48 PM

mybookie, nine should not get a rating no more than a B
There not on the same level is pinnacle or betjamica

**Bill Dozer** · 12-26-05, 06:21 PM

I agree with most of what was said here. Knowing your book is profitable is comforting but Nine needs to find a way to be super conservative without letting it inconvenience new players. They have gotten better as of late and with some help from their new big brother they can surpass the B. They have all the tools.

**Louie Diamond** · 12-26-05, 08:43 PM

How about the $20,000 I'm owed by the Granny Scammers? If you don't think I'm owed, please explain why.

**applepicks** · 12-26-05, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by bigboydan

John, I don't care what they want. If they want an A+ they gotta earn it, just like everyone else does. just because they own them now doesn't neccesarrily mean they deserve an A+ by association.

I'm sorry if i'm out of line here on this one. but, thats just the way i feel.

I couldn't agree more BBD. All books get what ratings based on what they earn not what their partners earn. A+ by associated is a hard one to swallow.APPLE

**marc** · 12-26-05, 10:32 PM

Neteller payouts have gotten much faster. You can usually get paid within an hours time if you call in the middle of the day.