Spurs at Rockets - very strange opening line and movement

**magaman** · 03-12-18, 08:59 AM

my gut tells me grab +13 while you can

**ako** · 03-12-18, 09:12 AM

Yeah...I saw this and couldn't believe my eyes. Very odd to jump 12+ points in any time frame lol

**Auto Donk** · 03-12-18, 09:16 AM

indeed, wtf????

i like the spurs now (originally had the timing of the movement backward....) i like the spurs +12 1/2 for sure.....

unless ginobili broke his f'n leg and can "no longer put his team on his back"

(he ain't no greg jennings, mother fukka)

**DOM-Ganador** · 03-12-18, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by magaman

3/12/2018 9:49:09 AM	San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets	13.0-105	-13.0-115	100%	0%
3/12/2018 9:36:30 AM	San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets	9.5+105	-9.5-125	100%	0%
3/12/2018 9:08:50 AM	San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets	9.5-105	-9.5-115	100%	0%
3/12/2018 8:30:29 AM	San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets	9.5+100	-9.5-120	100%	0%
3/12/2018 8:28:54 AM	San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets	8.5+105	-8.5-125	100%	0%
3/12/2018 8:27:45 AM	San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets	8.0+100	-8.0-120	100%	0%
3/12/2018 8:27:29 AM	San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets	8.0-105	-8.0-115	100%	0%
3/12/2018 8:26:23 AM	San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets	6.5-105	-6.5-115	100%	0%
3/12/2018 8:25:33 AM	San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets	5.0-102	-5.0-118	100%	0%
3/12/2018 8:12:22 AM	San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets	4.0-105	-4.0-115	100%	0%
3/12/2018 8:09:10 AM	San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets	3.0-105	-3.0-115	100%	0%
3/12/2018 8:01:24 AM	San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets	2.5-105	-2.5-115	100%	0%
3/12/2018 7:57:20 AM	San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets	1.5-110	-1.5-110	100%	0%

I have never seen anything like this in 30+ years

This is obviously a misprint. Took a look at a few sites and lines have only moved from 11.5/13.

**magaman** · 03-12-18, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

This is obviously a misprint. Took a look at a few sites and lines have only moved from 11.5/13.

It is not a misprint... these lines are from Betonline and are actual from the times indicated. The line history you are looking at are after this time period. This did indeed happen

**DOM-Ganador** · 03-12-18, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by magaman

It is not a misprint... these lines are from Betonline and are actual from the times indicated. The line history you are looking at are after this time period. This did indeed happen

NO fuggin way.
Not saying this wasn`t on a BOL site, but looking at a ton of other books, nothing but 11s and 12s and 13s.
Lines were out before 8 AM with 12s all over the place.
So your claim is BOL was letting anyone take Hou -1.5, then immediately go across the street ( or wait 90 minutes) and get SA +13?
Still sticking to your claim, so be it.

**jjgold** · 03-12-18, 10:33 AM

injuries

check reports

**chargers4222** · 03-12-18, 10:35 AM

James Harden was hurt, and now he's probable, so the odds adjusted accordingly. What's so hard to understand about that?

**magaman** · 03-12-18, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by chargers4222

James Harden was hurt, and now he's probable, so the odds adjusted accordingly. What's so hard to understand about that?

Harden was worth a 3 pt adjustment yesterday... this has nothing to do with HArden.

Betonline severely misread the market, and they saw a 12 swing in a matter of a couple hours from their opening.

The real question is Betonline more correct or is the market that severely moved the market?

**DOM-Ganador** · 03-12-18, 10:41 AM

03/12/2018
04:57:28 AM

-11.5 -118 (Open)

214.5 -111 (Open)

Small book, Guts, but check time and opener.

Getting an 11.5 middle in the NBA seems too good to be true.

**Auto Donk** · 03-12-18, 10:41 AM

HARDEN PUT THE FUKKIN' TEAM ON HIS BACK, and the spurs ain't got no darren sharper

**magaman** · 03-12-18, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

03/12/2018
04:57:28 AM

-11.5 -118 (Open)

214.5 -111 (Open)

Small book, Guts, but check time and opener.

Getting an 11.5 middle in the NBA seems too good to be true.

I agree it is all very odd. Betonline is no fringe shop - very best of reputation and they take big action. If it were a bad line, they would have taken it down, but they did not. They made adjustments over the course of 2 hours

**chargers4222** · 03-12-18, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by magaman

Harden was worth a 3 pt adjustment yesterday... this has nothing to do with HArden.

Betonline severely misread the market, and they saw a 12 swing in a matter of a couple hours from their opening.

The real question is Betonline more correct or is the market that severely moved the market?

Yeah because they were double-digit favorites. What do you want them to be -22 with Harden, or -2 without him? We're talking about 5 points either way...-2 without him, and -12 with him. That's perfectly reasonable for the league MVP.

**Auto Donk** · 03-12-18, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by chargers4222

Yeah because they were double-digit favorites. What do you want them to be -22 with Harden, or -2 without him? We're talking about 5 points either way...-2 without him, and -12 with him. That's perfectly reasonable for the league MVP.

has a nice ring to it.....

**STAY STRONG** · 03-12-18, 01:35 PM

All in.

**magaman** · 03-12-18, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by chargers4222

Yeah because they were double-digit favorites. What do you want them to be -22 with Harden, or -2 without him? We're talking about 5 points either way...-2 without him, and -12 with him. That's perfectly reasonable for the league MVP.

You are nuts.

Vegas had Jordan worth 4-5 points in his prime. Lebron is worth 4-5 points today. But Harden is worth 12 points?

This is not me talking, this is vegas oddsmakers. The 12 points has NOTHING to do with Harden... time to dig deeper WE just don't know what else is in play

**ikid2groove415** · 03-12-18, 01:41 PM

Houston due for a bad game !!

**dlowilly** · 03-12-18, 01:47 PM

Had to be a combination of Harden uncertainty and then him playing, and Aldridge and Ginobli being ruled out

**advantageU** · 03-12-18, 03:43 PM

Is Pop going to rest players?

**phinfan27615** · 03-12-18, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by Auto Donk

HARDEN PUT THE FUKKIN' TEAM ON HIS BACK, and the spurs ain't got no darren sharper

**JIBBBY** · 03-12-18, 06:05 PM

Alot of points but the Spurs kinda suck right now.. Houston at home is no joke but they are on a back to back tonight..

I think the Spurs could cover but it's a sketchy bet...(the Spurs are not totally getting blown out lately but losing) .. I'm leaning that the Spurs cover the 12 points but lose the game, oh and totals go OVER 210...

Spurs last 5 -

Feb 28	vs	New Orleans	L	121 - 116
Mar 3	vs	LA Lakers	L	116 - 112
Mar 5	vs	Memphis	W	100 - 98
Mar 8	@	Golden State	L	110 - 107
Mar 10	@	Oklahoma City	L	104 - 94

Mar 12

@

Houston

5:00 PM PDT
ESPN, C+ D

Rockets last 5 -

Mar 3	vs	Boston	W	123 - 120
Mar 6	@	Oklahoma City	W	122 - 112
Mar 7	@	Milwaukee	W	110 - 99
Mar 9	@	Toronto	L	108 - 105
Mar 11	@	Dallas	W	105 - 82

Mar 12

vs

San Antonio

5:00 PM PDT
ESPN, C+ D

**jjgold** · 03-12-18, 06:17 PM

You’ll never get hurt backing very good teams

**ediamonds2001** · 03-12-18, 06:17 PM

Houston a B2B would probably be more important if harden played and they had a competitive game. But Dallas was worthless last night and Harden can't really be stopped by anyone on the spurs.

**magaman** · 03-12-18, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

You’ll never get hurt backing very good teams

very good teams are public favs... and generally lose money over the course of a season

you should know this JJ

**TheHaus** · 03-12-18, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by magaman

very good teams are public favs... and generally lose money over the course of a season

you should know this JJ

o yes the patriots never cover over a season smart

**newton0038** · 03-12-18, 06:43 PM

By that lines history the 100% and 0% column would have all the bets on Spurs. Lines wont be shifting 12pts against the money

**magaman** · 03-12-18, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by newton0038

By that lines history the 100% and 0% column would have all the bets on Spurs. Lines wont be shifting 12pts against the money

This data was from sportsinsights... this is typical for this line service. It reports all 0% and 100% until there is enough data to report the data with any meaning. It is the same on any/every game in the first few hours

**Plaza23** · 03-12-18, 06:47 PM

Has to be a misprint. None of the books that Covers has show that.

https://www.covers.com/sports/NBA/Odds/linehistory?eventId=969635

Bet365 opened it at -12

**magaman** · 03-12-18, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by Plaza23

Has to be a misprint. None of the books that Covers has show that.

https://www.covers.com/sports/NBA/Odds/linehistory?eventId=969635

Bet365 opened it at -12

You might want to take another look.... if you scroll down on that covers link is shows the same data I reported for lines from Betonline

**magaman** · 03-12-18, 07:01 PM

Line now down to 7

still a couple minutes left to take a bite

**tony_come** · 03-12-18, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by magaman

Line now down to 7

still a couple minutes left to take a bite

What's the play@7

**JIBBBY** · 03-12-18, 07:11 PM

Spurs have been fading late in games recently, they keep it close early from what I've been seeing then fade late.. Spurs 1st half line might be worth a shot..

**magaman** · 03-12-18, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by tony_come

What's the play@7

my bad I was referring to the Memphis game... not spurs

**ikid2groove415** · 03-12-18, 08:22 PM

Can Houston play like this in the playoff? We all know frauds like James harden and Chris Paul will be ghosting come playoff time !!