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  • RudyRuetigger
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-24-10
    • 65086

    #1
    I will never understand this about gamblers
    Big shots

    Know everything

    Why not play 1 game per month, your absolute best


    Well you can take 5 shots per month


    If you start in January with $100 by your last game in December you will have over $230,000

    take $500 for 5 tries at it

    worst case scenario you lose $500





    well I would try it, and did try it but drink too much and always just fukkin go with a 3 teamer within 2 days

    You start right now in February and you will have over $100k

    WHY NOT??

    I will try again when I stop drinking
  • RudyRuetigger
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-24-10
    • 65086

    #2
    most guys here laugh at $100 bets

    so why not just fukkin set that aside?
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    • pimike
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 03-23-08
      • 37139

      #3
      Rudy stop drinking
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      • RudyRuetigger
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-24-10
        • 65086

        #4
        Originally posted by pimike
        Rudy stop drinking
        mike I have been on your side lately

        you act like a big shot

        maybe you are I do not know

        why not stop trying to winning grocery money and free sbr trips?
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        • firedawg
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 10-08-08
          • 39219

          #5
          Go all in 5x
          It’s the only way
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          • RudyRuetigger
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-24-10
            • 65086

            #6
            yea but if you hit 60%

            it is hard to pick 5 out of 10 plays

            better to pick 5 out of 10,000 plays
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            • Sam Odom
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-30-05
              • 58063

              #7
              mBR = Mini Bankroll

              3 bets max... 100% mBR -- win -- 75% mBR -- win -- 50% mBR

              start over
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              • RudyRuetigger
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-24-10
                • 65086

                #8
                instead we have posters betting in terms of UNITS

                that is the problem

                GUYS WITHOUT MODELS SHOULD NOT BET UNITS



                smart guys with models laughed and said FUKKIN obviously bet anything with an edge

                that's just flat out wrong for the majority
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                • RudyRuetigger
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-24-10
                  • 65086

                  #9
                  by the way, I'm not even trolling

                  this is a great service I am offering
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                  • Sam Odom
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-30-05
                    • 58063

                    #10
                    Rudy relax

                    no one cares
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                    • RudyRuetigger
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-24-10
                      • 65086

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sam Odom
                      Rudy relax

                      no one cares
                      well if mike would follow my advice

                      he might afford his own vacation instead of using SBR for a free one
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                      • arie1985
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-19-08
                        • 1611

                        #12
                        There isn't any 5 best picks, I can't see it happening, you can never guess a random outcome accurately.
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                        • A4K
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-08-12
                          • 5243

                          #13
                          HMMMMMMM....gamble less and make more you say.....hmmmmm
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                          • RudyRuetigger
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-24-10
                            • 65086

                            #14
                            Originally posted by A4K
                            HMMMMMMM....gamble less and make more you say.....hmmmmm
                            many preach to bet more

                            including all sharps
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                            • Sam Odom
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-30-05
                              • 58063

                              #15
                              Originally posted by arie1985

                              There isn't any 5 best picks, I can't see it happening, you can never guess a random outcome accurately.

                              thats the problem with 'Kelly' ... only a handful of posters can accurately calculate their advantage on a wager. Rest are guessing
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                              • hotcross
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-04-17
                                • 7934

                                #16
                                agree with everything said,

                                except units - although I do understand the point Rudy makes about units

                                Units can be relative to anyone's bankroll, whether a 10, 50, 100, 500, 1000 dollar bettor

                                in other words I use the units as a standardized measurement format
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388189

                                  #17
                                  spot bettors always the most successful

                                  Less occurrences apply to about 90% of players if you want to win
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                                  • Sam Odom
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 10-30-05
                                    • 58063

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold

                                    spot bettors always the most successful


                                    jjgold is one of the best... spot bettor that is
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                                    • firedawg
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 10-08-08
                                      • 39219

                                      #19
                                      JJ is correct
                                      It’s the only way to win
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                                      • pimike
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 03-23-08
                                        • 37139

                                        #20
                                        Rudy,

                                        Please stop drinking.

                                        I care pal.
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                                        • Cuse0323
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 12-09-09
                                          • 30169

                                          #21
                                          Action is most of the fun. Money is just a result of the real reason most of us gamble.
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                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-24-10
                                            • 65086

                                            #22
                                            set $500 for action

                                            $500 for all in type plays once per month only and break them to 5 categories

                                            BEST CHANCE YOU HAVE
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                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 08-24-10
                                              • 65086

                                              #23
                                              what do I know?

                                              well I am living the good life at 12:53 pm on a Thursday while drinking millers
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                                              • Cuse0323
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 12-09-09
                                                • 30169

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                set $500 for action

                                                $500 for all in type plays once per month only and break them to 5 categories

                                                BEST CHANCE YOU HAVE
                                                Solid idea right there.
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                                                • firedawg
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 10-08-08
                                                  • 39219

                                                  #25
                                                  Problem is discipline
                                                  I have NONE
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                                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                    • 65086

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                                    Solid idea right there.
                                                    I don't post bad ideas to exercise my fingers

                                                    if I post it

                                                    it is worth reading and thinking about

                                                    OK?
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                                                    • Cuse0323
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 12-09-09
                                                      • 30169

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                      I don't post bad ideas to exercise my fingers

                                                      if I post it

                                                      it is worth reading and thinking about

                                                      OK?
                                                      Gotcha.
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                                                      • pimike
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 03-23-08
                                                        • 37139

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                        what do I know?

                                                        well I am living the good life at 12:53 pm on a Thursday while drinking millers
                                                        Patience is the KEY to winning big money long term. Action junkies are like all junkies addicted losers.

                                                        If you add beer to he equation it will influence your patience. .

                                                        Just at least slow down your drinking bud.

                                                        This can work if you can be patient.

                                                        I think your a great guy otherwise. Willing to help you in anyway you need bro.

                                                        Cheers!
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                                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 08-24-10
                                                          • 65086

                                                          #29
                                                          If we could have SPONSORS, like AA

                                                          it would ensure many win 100k per year

                                                          I should come up with that idea
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                                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 08-24-10
                                                            • 65086

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by pimike
                                                            Patience is the KEY to winning big money long term. Action junkies are like all junkies addicted losers.

                                                            If you add beer to he equation it will influence your patience. .

                                                            Just at least slow down your drinking bud.

                                                            This can work if you can be patient.

                                                            I think your a great guy otherwise. Willie ng to help you in anyway you need bro.

                                                            Cheers!
                                                            I'm not going to listen to a guy that uses his vacation at the grocery store to check in to sbr to get a free vacation

                                                            PASS
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388189

                                                              #31
                                                              Thank you all
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                                                              • RudyRuetigger
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 08-24-10
                                                                • 65086

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                Thank you all
                                                                sorry wrong account

                                                                mods change this post to RUDYRUETIGGER
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                                                                • stevenash
                                                                  Moderator
                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 65199

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                  yea but if you hit 60%

                                                                  it is hard to pick 5 out of 10 plays

                                                                  better to pick 5 out of 10,000 plays
                                                                  MLB, spot play live 'dogs.

                                                                  If you play 80 games during the course of the season, with 100 dollar flat bets, you only need to go 33 and 37 to turn a profit.
                                                                  You would lose 3700 for the 37 losses.
                                                                  You would collect 4125 dollara for the 33 wins.
                                                                  That's net a profit of 425 dollars by losing 59 percent of your selections (33/80 = 41.25%) even though the implied odds of winning one game at +125 is 44.44%

                                                                  *aside to Rudy, not trying to be a showoff here, not trying to prove anything to anybody, just wanted to add my insight.
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                                                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                                    • 65086

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                    MLB, spot play live 'dogs.

                                                                    If you play 80 games during the course of the season, with 100 dollar flat bets, you only need to go 33 and 37 to turn a profit.
                                                                    You would lose 3700 for the 37 losses.
                                                                    You would collect 4125 dollara for the 33 wins.
                                                                    That's net a profit of 425 dollars by losing 59 percent of your selections (33/80 = 41.25%) even though the implied odds of winning one game at +125 is 44.44%

                                                                    *aside to Rudy, not trying to be a showoff here, not trying to prove anything to anybody, just wanted to add my insight.
                                                                    you provided nothing other than you like getting your iceberg lettuce paid for
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                                                                    • JohnGalt2341
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 12-31-09
                                                                      • 9138

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Best case scenario: Let's say I have 2 bags full of marbles. Bag #1 has 53 Blue marbles and 47 Red marbles. Bag #2 has 60 Blue marbles and 40 Red marbles. The Blue marbles will represent Wins and the Red marbles will represent losses. I could reach into Bag #2 five times per month and if I'm REALLY good I will pull out Blue marbles 3 times(Wins) and pull out Red marbles twice(losses). Or, I could reach into Bag #1 as often as possible and have a slight edge over the books and still reach into Bag #2 five times per month. I'm far better off reaching into both bags as often as I can as long as my data says that my expected value is positive. Knowing what kind of bag you are reaching into is the hardest part of the problem. Most guys reach into the bags with almost no idea of how many Blue and Red marbles are in the bag. I agree with some of your points however, I still believe that anything with a positive expected value should be played. For people that have no idea of their expected value it doesn't really matter what they do because they are likely going to lose in the long run anyway.
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