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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #36
    what really is positive expected value but a wrong line that did not move???????
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    • Clutchut12
      SBR MVP
      • 09-20-16
      • 3632

      #37
      Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
      Best case scenario: Let's say I have 2 bags full of marbles. Bag #1 has 53 Blue marbles and 47 Red marbles. Bag #2 has 60 Blue marbles and 40 Red marbles. The Blue marbles will represent Wins and the Red marbles will represent losses. I could reach into Bag #2 five times per month and if I'm REALLY good I will pull out Blue marbles 3 times(Wins) and pull out Red marbles twice(losses). Or, I could reach into Bag #1 as often as possible and have a slight edge over the books and still reach into Bag #2 five times per month. I'm far better off reaching into both bags as often as I can as long as my data says that my expected value is positive. Knowing what kind of bag you are reaching into is the hardest part of the problem. Most guys reach into the bags with almost no idea of how many Blue and Red marbles are in the bag. I agree with some of your points however, I still believe that anything with a positive expected value should be played. For people that have no idea of their expected value it doesn't really matter what they do because they are likely going to lose in the long run anyway.
      I swear this guy is bill nye the science guy.
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      • RudyRuetigger
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-24-10
        • 65084

        #38
        Originally posted by Clutchut12
        I swear this guy is bill nye the science guy.
        I agree

        1. clueless

        2. tries to argue points he heard from someone else but wants to apply them
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        • RudyRuetigger
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-24-10
          • 65084

          #39
          Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
          Best case scenario: Let's say I have 2 bags full of marbles. Bag #1 has 53 Blue marbles and 47 Red marbles. Bag #2 has 60 Blue marbles and 40 Red marbles. The Blue marbles will represent Wins and the Red marbles will represent losses. I could reach into Bag #2 five times per month and if I'm REALLY good I will pull out Blue marbles 3 times(Wins) and pull out Red marbles twice(losses). Or, I could reach into Bag #1 as often as possible and have a slight edge over the books and still reach into Bag #2 five times per month. I'm far better off reaching into both bags as often as I can as long as my data says that my expected value is positive. Knowing what kind of bag you are reaching into is the hardest part of the problem. Most guys reach into the bags with almost no idea of how many Blue and Red marbles are in the bag. I agree with some of your points however, I still believe that anything with a positive expected value should be played. For people that have no idea of their expected value it doesn't really matter what they do because they are likely going to lose in the long run anyway.
          how about I made your thread look like a fukkin 4th grader question with the boy/girl paradox

          you are as dumb as bricks

          atleast most here realize they don't know math

          whereas you get a D- and still raise your hand when the fukkin teacher asks to show your work on the board
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          • BeatTheJerk
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 08-19-07
            • 31794

            #40
            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
            I'm not going to listen to a guy that uses his vacation at the grocery store to check in to sbr to get a free vacation

            PASS
            You are directly disrespecting professional gambler here. Mike is where we all want to be. So what if he's smart/frugal with his money to stretch out his dollar. In this economy & the cost of living comparisons are brutal. I do the same !
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            • RudyRuetigger
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-24-10
              • 65084

              #41
              Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
              You are directly disrespecting professional gambler here. Mike is where we all want to be. So what if he's smart/frugal with his money to stretch out his dollar. In this economy & the cost of living comparisons are brutal. I do the same !
              speak for yourself

              not many want to be 60 years old, broke, single and lives for the sbr bash

              if that is you, ok cool
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              • BeatTheJerk
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 08-19-07
                • 31794

                #42
                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                speak for yourself

                not many want to be 60 years old, broke, single and lives for the sbr bash

                if that is you, ok cool

                Let Mike tell us how his situation really is. I am led to believe he is NOT broke, gambles sensible as you mention in this thread as a key factor for success & lives a "comfortable" life. Mikes been posting profits on here with his picks since inception of SBR. I think your assessment on him is largely false.
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                • RudyRuetigger
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-24-10
                  • 65084

                  #43
                  Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                  Let Mike tell us how his situation really is. I am led to believe he is NOT broke, gambles sensible as you mention in this thread as a key factor for success & lives a "comfortable" life. Mikes been posting profits on here with his picks since inception of SBR. I think your assessment on him is largely false.
                  at no point do I say that

                  you are a fukkin dumbass bro
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                  • jtoler
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 12-17-13
                    • 30967

                    #44
                    Budy doesnt follow his own advice.
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                    • RudyRuetigger
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-24-10
                      • 65084

                      #45
                      Originally posted by jtoler
                      Budy doesnt follow his own advice.
                      that might be true

                      but your fukkin fingers cant even follow your brain
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                      • BeatTheJerk
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 08-19-07
                        • 31794

                        #46
                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                        Big shots

                        Know everything

                        Why not play 1 game per month, your absolute best




                        Well you can take 5 shots per month


                        If you start in January with $100 by your last game in December you will have over $230,000

                        take $500 for 5 tries at it

                        worst case scenario you lose $500





                        well I would try it, and did try it but drink too much and always just fukkin go with a 3 teamer within 2 days

                        You start right now in February and you will have over $100k

                        WHY NOT??

                        I will try again when I stop drinking
                        Chosen in accordance with wisdom or prudence; likely to be of benefit: I guess I misinterpreted you & gave you way too much credit. So you revert to name calling how lame.
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                        • jtoler
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 12-17-13
                          • 30967

                          #47
                          Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                          that might be true

                          but your fukkin fingers cant even follow your brain
                          and what does this riddle mean Budy.
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                          • RudyRuetigger
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-24-10
                            • 65084

                            #48
                            Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                            Chosen in accordance with wisdom or prudence; likely to be of benefit: I guess I misinterpreted you & gave you way too much credit. So you revert to name calling how lame.
                            the guy that failed as a fukkin electrician wants to give me advice

                            as they say

                            ONLY ON SBR
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                            • BeatTheJerk
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 08-19-07
                              • 31794

                              #49
                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                              the guy that failed as a fukkin electrician wants to give me advice

                              as they say

                              ONLY ON SBR
                              There's no reasoning with a drunk off the wagon internet attention whore. Failed Electrician ? That's a source of income for me other than gambling. After your idiotic rebuttal of this post. You're on my ignore list, I gave you a chance to be normal. You are not !
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                              • RudyRuetigger
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-24-10
                                • 65084

                                #50
                                Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                There's no reasoning with a drunk off the wagon internet attention whore. Failed Electrician ? That's a source of income for me other than gambling. After your idiotic rebuttal of this post. You're on my ignore list, I gave you a chance to be normal. You are not !
                                you have admitted you lost in gambling

                                you admitted you had to quit your job and now have nothing

                                truth hurts

                                I know
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                                • RudyRuetigger
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 08-24-10
                                  • 65084

                                  #51
                                  this brings up another point

                                  many guys want to block me

                                  well, the truth hurts


                                  sbr should hire me as a COUNSELOR

                                  you can pay drinking guy 1k per month
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                                  • BeatTheJerk
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 08-19-07
                                    • 31794

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                    you have admitted you lost in gambling

                                    you admitted you had to quit your job and now have nothing

                                    truth hurts

                                    I know
                                    I feel like I could kill you. If given the right opportunity & moment. Now go ahead & be a bitch made mama's boy & complain to SBR about my death threat.
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                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-24-10
                                      • 65084

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                      There's no reasoning with a drunk off the wagon internet attention whore. Failed Electrician ? That's a source of income for me other than gambling. After your idiotic rebuttal of this post. You're on my ignore list, I gave you a chance to be normal. You are not !
                                      Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                      I feel like I could kill you. If given the right opportunity & moment. Now go ahead & be a bitch made mama's boy & complain to SBR about my death threat.
                                      wow

                                      things escalated quickly
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                                      • BeatTheJerk
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 08-19-07
                                        • 31794

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                        this brings up another point

                                        many guys want to block me

                                        well, the truth hurts


                                        sbr should hire me as a COUNSELOR

                                        you can pay drinking guy 1k per month
                                        Your version of "my truths" are a whole other life story brought on by your imagination & daily drinking benders.
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                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-24-10
                                          • 65084

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                          Your version of "my truths" are a whole other life story brought on by your imagination & daily drinking benders.
                                          let me know where I went wrong

                                          hopefully you know the difference between opinions and facts


                                          so please don't continue your usual drivel
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                                          • kaliboyz
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-30-09
                                            • 3121

                                            #56
                                            This thread is motivated me. I'll do that but 1 play a day for 5 days, $100 bet to win $3200....
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                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 08-24-10
                                              • 65084

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by kaliboyz
                                              This thread is motivated me. I'll do that but 1 play a day for 5 days, $100 bet to win $3200....
                                              not a long enough span

                                              you will give in

                                              plus your first bet will not matter if its 5 fukkin days
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                                              • kaliboyz
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-30-09
                                                • 3121

                                                #58
                                                How about 1 a week?
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                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                  • 65084

                                                  #59
                                                  don't be a cukkold like those that go to bashes

                                                  you do you, and if you prove me wrong...great job bro

                                                  if you want to piss away your money, go ahead

                                                  you will not be back to say damn, I should've done 1 play per month after you lose though
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #60
                                                    gamblers have old cars, no money and no chicks
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                                                    • kaliboyz
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-30-09
                                                      • 3121

                                                      #61
                                                      I like you since day one! Very straight forward and helpful..thanks
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                                                      • stevenash
                                                        Moderator
                                                        • 01-17-11
                                                        • 65405

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                        you provided nothing other than you like getting your iceberg lettuce paid for
                                                        Tough crowd, you left out the bestr part though, I won back to back MVP's and Shaq is still pouting he got ripped off.
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                                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 08-24-10
                                                          • 65084

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                                          Tough crowd, you left out the bestr part though, I won back to back MVP's and Shaq is still pouting he got ripped off.
                                                          I don't know you or shaq
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                                                          • stevenash
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • 01-17-11
                                                            • 65405

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                            I don't know you or shaq
                                                            Those Miller's still going down smooth?
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                                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 08-24-10
                                                              • 65084

                                                              #65
                                                              nash you are pretty smart

                                                              you leave openings for me to make jokes so I take them

                                                              that's all

                                                              ok?


                                                              we drink buds, rudy has millers
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                                                              • thetrinity
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-25-11
                                                                • 22430

                                                                #66
                                                                Of course this would be smart.

                                                                To take a step further divide by 5 whatever you were planning on losing in a year and then do this.

                                                                Guys need action is why this doesn't happen
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                                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                                  • 65084

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                                  Of course this would be smart.

                                                                  To take a step further divide by 5 whatever you were planning on losing in a year and then do this.

                                                                  Guys need action is why this doesn't happen
                                                                  I thought $500 would be divided by 5

                                                                  I didn't account for fukks working at mcdonalds though, you are right
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                                                                  • stevenash
                                                                    Moderator
                                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                                    • 65405

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                    nash you are pretty smart

                                                                    you leave openings for me to make jokes so I take them

                                                                    that's all

                                                                    ok?


                                                                    we drink buds, rudy has millers
                                                                    Just like to keep the line moving.
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