When you guys say "opinionated lines", you mean...

**bigboydan** · 12-24-05, 01:34 AM

pags, are we talking about opening type lines. or, money movement type stuff here ?

**pags11** · 12-24-05, 02:15 AM

I think in regards to sportsbooks themselves...I'm assuming books that use -110 all the time are un-opinionated lines, and books like pinnacle that move them all the time are ones that are considered to have opinionated lines...

**Doug** · 12-24-05, 02:51 AM

It could be moving the pointspread instead of just the vig, you need to know what half-points are worth. There's the much-discussed Pinny lean, I personally gamble on the "beted lean", they had Toronto Rapters +600 a few weeks ago to win NBA championship, that's a sharp book !

**raiders72001** · 12-24-05, 03:21 AM

Opinionated lines means that the book is setting lines that's different than most books. Since they have the best line on a game bettors are all going to bet one side. The book does this as their opinion is that the other side is what they think will win or they have a big need for one side.

Ex: All other books have a line of 6. The opinionated book sets the line at 5.5 meaning that they are looking for -5.5 action.

**isetcap** · 12-24-05, 04:49 AM

raiders' description is what i would best describe as an opinionated line. that which deviates from the majority of the industry. essentially the book is willing to gamble in an effort to capture a payout far exceeding standard juice.

**bigboydan** · 12-24-05, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Opinionated lines means that the book is setting lines that's different than most books. Since they have the best line on a game bettors are all going to bet one side. The book does this as their opinion is that the other side is what they think will win or they have a big need for one side.

Ex: All other books have a line of 6. The opinionated book sets the line at 5.5 meaning that they are looking for -5.5 action.

that basicly sums it up really.

bottom line is that these books cater to there clients betting styles/patterns.

**JoshW** · 12-24-05, 07:32 AM

The best "opinionated" lines are those offered based on client action as books are more likely to let you bet into those lines long term. TopCat/Trojan was an example with their sometimes one point off of consensus lines on west coast basketball games. Don't see that as much anymore since EVERYONE seems to be playing with them since they went hard after postup.

"opinionated" is sometimes used more broadly to also include slow books or books that don't pay attention to their lines.

**Brick Tamland** · 12-24-05, 09:13 AM

lakerfan
did you play at topcat befor trojan came out?

**pags11** · 12-25-05, 03:03 AM

OK, that makes sense...I just wanted to know my terminology when reading stuff around here...Merry Christmas...