Yanks bullpen ? Best of all time ? Another question mark coming up for good measure ?

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 10-04-17, 06:46 PM

thanks for agreeing

no one opposed

**Louisvillekid1** · 10-04-17, 07:11 PM

Kc few years back was better

and how the fukk is Yanks best off all time

dont include THE BEST OFF TIME

jeez

**MinnesotaFats** · 10-04-17, 07:35 PM

Cant be the best if you're playing in the house that Riveria built

**krk1030** · 10-04-17, 07:36 PM

Deepest maybe but back end cant compare to Rivera years.

**MJFtheGenius** · 10-04-17, 07:41 PM

Not even as good as late 90s Yanks pen with Rivera, Mendoza, Nelson, Lloyd, Stanton

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 10-04-17, 08:12 PM

numbers wise you guys, show me better numbers

Those strikeouts per innings pitched and WHIP
Look at each of those players stats this year
Id have to see better numbers

Originally posted by krk1030

Deepest maybe but back end cant compare to Rivera years.

Rivera was great but

Robertson in the 7th
Betances in the 8th
Chapman in the 9th

is better than what any team has ever had

Even

those Royals Lkid is talkin about didnt match those numbers

Herrera , Wade, and Holland put up

Plus the Royals didnt have those other guys putting up the numbers the Yanks are
outside of the Big 3. Its all right there in the stats, they dont lie . Im amazed at what I saw

**themike78** · 10-04-17, 08:14 PM

Rivera, he had better numbers. The guys postseason e.r.a was like 0.95 or something.

**MinnesotaFats** · 10-04-17, 08:16 PM

I just looked this up.

2006 MN TWINS bullpen had

Joe Nathan
Francisco Liriano (started later)
Matt Garza
Kyle Lodge
Pat Neshek
Matt Guerrier
Glen Perkins

I think each of those guts was an all star in 24 months of this.

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 10-04-17, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by themike78

Rivera, he had better numbers. The guys postseason e.r.a was like 0.95 or something.

im talking overall , every single guys stats included.
Id have to see something numbers wise that proves this wrong
im not a yankee fan whatsoever but thats incredible

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 10-04-17, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by MinnesotaFats

I just looked this up.

2006 MN TWINS bullpen had

Joe Nathan
Francisco Liriano (started later)
Matt Garza
Kyle Lodge
Pat Neshek
Matt Guerrier
Glen Perkins

I think each of those guts was an all star in 24 months of this.

Looks good , but hate to keep repeating this
numbers wise, there is no way they matched what Yankees did this year

**Louisvillekid1** · 10-04-17, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow

numbers wise you guys, show me better numbers

Those strikeouts per innings pitched and WHIP
Look at each of those players stats this year
Id have to see better numbers

Cmon gueye

here’s all the numbers you need

More people have walked on the moon (12) than men who have scored against Mariano Rivera in the postseason (11)

dont forget the 0.70 era

and how many rings?

Fidel love you , but

cmon man!!!!

**themike78** · 10-04-17, 08:19 PM

And yeah nothing compares to their bullpen of the late 90's. Chapman is overrated. He is the reason the Yankees didn't win the division this year because of all his blown saves. I miss Mariano Rivera. Guy was the best ever.

**Louisvillekid1** · 10-04-17, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

Cmon gueye

here’s all the numbers you need

More people have walked on the moon (12) than men who have scored against Mariano Rivera in the postseason (11)

dont forget the 0.70 era

and how many rings?

Fidel love you , but

cmon man!!!!

Fukk here we go w/ the conspiracies again

sigh

**Louisvillekid1** · 10-04-17, 08:19 PM

Wettland also

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 10-04-17, 08:19 PM

Fidel, 2 Q:

1) U like Yankees in upcoming series?

2) How early will Girardi go to the pen? 5th inning? Sooner, if necessary?

**grease lightnin** · 10-04-17, 08:20 PM

Fidel I took yanks to win WS back a few weeks aho

Cheers

**Sam Losco** · 10-04-17, 08:21 PM

all time? this isnt even the best yankees bullpen ever (late 90s), or the best of 2017 (cleveland)

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 10-04-17, 08:22 PM

no one is listening

SHOW ME BETTER NUMBERS THAT ANY GROUP OF BULLPEN GUYS PUT UP THAN THIS YEARS YANKEES CORE

Notice the ??? in the title, im wondering this , but have to see stats to disprove
Have any of you clicked on those guys links to break down there stats, strikeouts and WHIP

**themike78** · 10-04-17, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

Fukk here we go w/ the conspiracies again

sigh

Yeah now you will have guys here claiming nobody went to the moon. I do know that Rivera was real. I seen him play many times and there will never be anybody like him who dominated for so long.

**Louisvillekid1** · 10-04-17, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow

no one is listening

SHOW ME BETTER NUMBERS THAT ANY GROUP OF BULLPEN GUYS PUT UP THAN THIS YEARS YANKEES CORE

Kc few years back

**MJFtheGenius** · 10-04-17, 08:25 PM

2017 yanks are 3rd in majors in blown saves. that rules them out of the discussion. and I am a yankees fan

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 10-04-17, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

Kc few years back

was amazing trio of guys, Herrera , Wade Davis and Holland

but even there numbers dont stand up to what Yankees did as a whole

Chapman is maybe the weakest of everyone of that group and even he is dominant

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 10-04-17, 08:27 PM

Its easy to debunk this , click on the teams roster you thinks better, click on their stats
link their individual stats for any one year as a group , and bammy

Until then ,ill be eating pop rock slushies wondering if this is actually true myself

Im more confident than ever now , I even tried to nominate my first post in this thread

but the government stopped it

Post Nomination

You cannot nominate your own post.

**fourlokobro** · 10-04-17, 08:27 PM

Yankees Offense and Bullpen make them pretty dangerous.... even against the invincible Tribe... Cleveland factor might come into play... this matchup could be closest of all the divisional series

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 10-04-17, 08:43 PM

was hoping someone else helped with this

Looked at the biggest competitors , the big 3 KC had

Glanced over 2015,2015,and 2016 and even they are tied at best with Yanks big 3 this year

and thats going by any of the 3 years they pitched together, and Chapman had a way off year this year

so imagine if he was up to form , plus the rest of Royals bullpen sucked those years

they didnt have 3 more guys doing this like the Yanks did

http://www.espn.com/mlb/player/_/id/33325/chad-green----------- 0.74 WHIP

http://www.espn.com/mlb/player/_/id/31101/adam-warren----------0.87 WHIP

http://www.espn.com/mlb/player/_/id/31867/tommy-kahnle------ 1.13 WHIP

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 10-04-17, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

Fidel, 2 Q:

1) U like Yankees in upcoming series?

2) How early will Girardi go to the pen? 5th inning? Sooner, if necessary?

Yes I like the Yankees at the great price you are going to get them at if you have multiple sportsbooks

And Girardi will have a short leash on every single pitcher which could tax the bullpen

but when your bullpen has 6 guys with the output these guys bring ... that might not matter

Cleveland might be in for a surprise in the upcoming series

**Sam Losco** · 10-04-17, 08:58 PM

as a whole, cleveland has best era this year from the bullpen. dont know about the core itself numbers, but guys in the indians pen are nasty (miller, allen, mcalister, otero, shaw)

if you want a statistically better bullpen, ive got you. 2003 dodgers

2003 Los Angeles Dodgers Statistics | Baseball-Reference.com

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/LAD/2003.shtml

Los Angeles Dodgers latest stats and more including batting stats, pitching stats, team fielding totals and more on Baseball-Reference.com

even more impressive that they pitched more innings

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 10-04-17, 08:59 PM

Sammy L , lying to yourself isnt helping anybody in this mess

**Sam Losco** · 10-04-17, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow

Sammy L , lying to yourself isnt helping anybody in this mess

green, robertson, betances, warren, kahnle, chapman = 298ip, 174h, 124bb, 78er, 413so

gagne, mota, quantrill, shuey, martin = 384.2ip, 262h, 133b, 92er, 391so

yankees = 1.00whip, 2.35era, 12.47so/9
dodgers = 1.02whip, 2.15era, 9.16so/9

i think .02 more whip, .2 less era, 3 less k/9 is more impressive given its 5 guys pitching 90 more innings than the 6 yankees guys (2 came over at deadline)

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 10-04-17, 09:17 PM

gagne, mota, quantrill, shuey, martin

wow hard to believe that group of guys matched the Yanks numbers this year

almost 100 more innings logged though and still didnt strike out as many as Yanks

but I see your point, def on par

**Sam Losco** · 10-04-17, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow

gagne, mota, quantrill, shuey, martin

wow hard to believe that group of guys matched the Yanks numbers this year

almost 100 more innings logged though and still didnt strike out as many as Yanks

but I see your point, def on par

i forgot how deep that pen was honestly. and while they didnt strike them out, they still got them out as shown by the whip

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 10-04-17, 09:30 PM

Sam thanks for taking this thread seriously and checking into it with some in depth research
You think there are any other teams that come close as well ?

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 10-04-17, 09:32 PM

U guys see Clev/NYY being a low-scoring series?

**Sam Losco** · 10-04-17, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow

Sam thanks for taking this thread seriously and checking into it with some in depth research
You think there are any other teams that come close as well ?

how about the nasty boys? maybe the giants when they won in 2010? casila to romo to wilson and javy lopez when a lefty was needed