Why are the patriots -5 on thursday?

**lakerboy** · 10-03-17, 11:39 AM

TB ml might be my biggest play all season.

**krk1030** · 10-03-17, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

TB ml might be my biggest play all season.

same

usually just take points but tampa wins this game.

**jtoler** · 10-03-17, 11:54 AM

Right, why is it -5 when it should be no more than -3.

**lakerboy** · 10-03-17, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by jtoler

Right, why is it -5 when it should be no more than -3.

Cause everyone will take the pats cause they can't lose 2 in a row. This might be the year when the books get all of there ne money back.

**jtoler** · 10-03-17, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Cause everyone will take the pats cause they can't lose 2 in a row. This might be the year when the books get all of there ne money back.

Yea I think this is the year. I would have made it -4 myself instead of -5 and watch it get bet closer to 7, more money on Pats that way, closer to game time it will come back down some, but opening at -5 it may not move towards Pats much.

**brooks85** · 10-03-17, 12:05 PM

has anyone looked at the o/u record for pats, it's been great.

**Harry N. Lloyd** · 10-03-17, 12:06 PM

New England is 36-13 ATS after a loss going all the way back to 2003. That's 75%, boyz. Fade 'em in this situation at your own risk.

**A4K** · 10-03-17, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by Harry N. Lloyd

New England is 36-13 ATS after a loss going all the way back to 2003. That's 75%, boyz. Fade 'em in this situation at your own risk.

**jtoler** · 10-03-17, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by Harry N. Lloyd

New England is 36-13 ATS after a loss going all the way back to 2003. That's 75%, boyz. Fade 'em in this situation at your own risk.

What about in the last 2 or 3 years and what about on the road in those last 2 or 3 years. I just dont factor trends going back that far different team and times, sure Brady is still great but he's older also. Pats are 1-3 ats so far this year.

**tony_come** · 10-03-17, 12:18 PM

whos the qb for pats?

**A4K** · 10-03-17, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by tony_come

whos the qb for pats?

Thomas Brady

**tony_come** · 10-03-17, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by A4K

Thomas Brady

do we trust thomas?

**A4K** · 10-03-17, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by tony_come

do we trust thomas?

He's old as Moses in NFL terms

**krk1030** · 10-03-17, 12:28 PM

Thomas played great at home on sunday and they still lost.

pats will score, but tampa will score more.

**LT Profits** · 10-03-17, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by Harry N. Lloyd

New England is 36-13 ATS after a loss going all the way back to 2003. That's 75%, boyz. Fade 'em in this situation at your own risk.

Means nothing because their defense has never been this bad all those years.

**paco** · 10-03-17, 12:47 PM

Will close probably 6, everyone will have em in all teasers. And Pat's will likely lose straight up

**jjgold** · 10-03-17, 12:57 PM

Tampa huge

**WWCD** · 10-03-17, 01:01 PM

I liked Tampa Bay as soon as I saw the number. That makes me worry.

For what it's worth, TB 0-4 in TNF.

**MalikHusam** · 10-03-17, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Means nothing because their defense has never been this bad all those years.

It was, in 2014 I think

**shocka1212** · 10-03-17, 01:28 PM

they covered at NO... they'll probably cover this off a deflection or two (last night still has me salty)

**DOM_Toretto** · 10-03-17, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Harry N. Lloyd

New England is 36-13 ATS after a loss going all the way back to 2003. That's 75%, boyz. Fade 'em in this situation at your own risk.

Yeah well Pats were also something like 14-2 ATS last season. Last year they had an elite defense, this year they have the worst defense.

Bucs SU

**krk1030** · 10-03-17, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by shocka1212

they covered at NO... they'll probably cover this off a deflection or two (last night still has me salty)

Tampa is much better than NO.

**JayDr3am** · 10-03-17, 02:03 PM

Last time Pats were on the road at saints the line did some funky shit as well. opened -4.5 and ended ended -7. probably similar movement here as well

**JayDr3am** · 10-03-17, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by shocka1212

they covered at NO... they'll probably cover this off a deflection or two (last night still has me salty)

lol man i dont know what i would have done if i was the opposite side of that. still cant believe it

**sweep** · 10-03-17, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by krk1030

If this was generic team A, this would be a PK.

People betting logos here boys.

Pats defense is an absolute train wreck. Bellicheck and company will fix it but not on a short week going to tampa against an explosive offense.

how about a hundy for charity you broke roosterlicker

**biggie12** · 10-03-17, 03:35 PM

<------- have new england at -4 on the open for a large amount.

SQUARED UP! i also lost about 12k last sunday so what the fukk do i know.

I highly doubt the number will be pushed up to -6

**Goat Milk** · 10-03-17, 03:49 PM

Risky either way

Tampa bay defense is hurting right now, Gerald Mccoy is banged up, not 100%, and their best two linebackers David and I think Alexander? forgot his name...are out. Their CBs are atrocious. Safety play sucks. Who's gonna cover Gronk? Cooks? I don't see a pass rush getting to Brady in this game.

Tampa has some good weapons but we are talking about Winston at the end of the day. Never put your life savings on an avg qb.

**grease lightnin** · 10-03-17, 03:52 PM

Over is the play on this one, imo

**Harry N. Lloyd** · 10-03-17, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Means nothing because their defense has never been this bad all those years.

Come on, LT. Regression to the mean. You gotta know they won't keep this up. Look for a better effort, more man to man coverage. Gilmore is too dumb to know his role in a zone.

**jjgold** · 10-03-17, 04:34 PM

Pats look too easy

They have many faults

**paco** · 10-03-17, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Risky either way

Tampa bay defense is hurting right now, Gerald Mccoy is banged up, not 100%, and their best two linebackers David and I think Alexander? forgot his name...are out. Their CBs are atrocious. Safety play sucks. Who's gonna cover Gronk? Cooks? I don't see a pass rush getting to Brady in this game.

Tampa has some good weapons but we are talking about Winston at the end of the day. Never put your life savings on an avg qb.

Who's gonna cover Evans?

**Demonata** · 10-03-17, 04:57 PM

I wont take winston over tom brady. Patriots play fine on the road.

**Rich Boy** · 10-03-17, 06:08 PM

Just take Pats OVERs every game and watch them throw up a TD and then their D give it back in a couple minutes.

**krk1030** · 10-03-17, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by paco

Who's gonna cover Evans?

With the way the patriots are playing either nobody will be on him or 3 guys will mistakenly be on him with everyone else open.