When Are You Guys Going to Realize Football Capping All QB's

**juicername** · 09-13-17, 06:01 AM

Capping QBs is what everyone tries to do and it's impossible to get an edge. I only look at teams wide receivers and offensive line. That's where the keys to success are.

**BIGDAY** · 09-13-17, 07:13 AM

Defensive tendencies is where it's at.

**Sam Odom** · 09-13-17, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

Defensive tendencies is where it's at.

D line
D in general
O run game

**manny24** · 09-13-17, 07:20 AM

Coaches game management

fade teams with guys kneeling for the anthem

**Sam Odom** · 09-13-17, 07:24 AM

jjgold is a clown

here to amuse us

**7deuceoff$uit** · 09-13-17, 09:04 AM

Capping QB's is over thinking it. Just fade the Bag.

**klemopixx** · 09-13-17, 09:16 AM

Look for a dominant defense, then look for bad game conditions, bet the under. Collect your cash!

**hankcream** · 09-13-17, 09:35 AM

I think your on to something Coach - Alex Smith > Tom Brady, Sam Bradford > Drew Brees, Trevor Simien > Phillip Rivers

**MinnesotaFats** · 09-13-17, 09:45 AM

I'm with BigDay on this, I look at defensive stats and possessions. Red zone D especially.

QBs are hit and miss. Bradford over Brees? Smith over Brady? Siemien over Rivers?

No no no...but you know that Zimmer will play D and only give 5 possessions per half, you know Reid will give up yards but not points and you know Denver can get off the field on 3rd down.

Those are 3 teams right there that will be in every game this year just due to defense, and are live dogs anytime you get a +$

**JIBBBY** · 09-13-17, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

Defensive tendencies is where it's at.

Defense wins championships.. Yep...

**jjgold** · 09-13-17, 09:52 AM

Watch the games it comes down to the quarterback goddamnit

**DiggityDaggityDo** · 09-13-17, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Watch the games it comes down to the quarterback goddamnit

**Philmill** · 09-13-17, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Watch the games it comes down to the quarterback goddamnit

**milwaukee mike** · 09-13-17, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

jjgold is a clown

here to amuse us

he's failing at that

**Sam Odom** · 09-13-17, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Watch the games it comes down to the quarterback goddamnit

**House** · 09-13-17, 10:07 AM

How did that work out for NE backers vs the Chiefs first game of the year ?

Its much much more than just capping QBs lol

**House** · 09-13-17, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

D line
D in general
O run game

especially on the road

you win with you defense and run game on the road normally

**JayDr3am** · 09-13-17, 10:16 AM

knowing the personnel helps but also knowing the character or identity of the team as well if that makes any sense. run heavy teams, teams that air it out often, kind of like how georgia tech always runs the option. as well as navy.

**2daBank** · 09-13-17, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by House

How did that work out for NE backers vs the Chiefs first game of the year ?

Its much much more than just capping QBs lol

Or saints backers Monday night. And I'm sure many others. JJ just talking out his ass, this may be a qb league now but there still plenty of other equally important factors oline being way up the list as qb don't matter if he getting killed, ask russel Wilson.

**2daBank** · 09-13-17, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by House

especially on the road

you win with you defense and run game on the road normally

Defense and run game travel is one of my favorite sayings.. good things to have in a doggie as well.

**funnyb25** · 09-13-17, 10:51 AM

Smith > Brady

Easy

**MinnesotaFats** · 09-13-17, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Watch the games it comes down to the quarterback goddamnit

The QB can't do it all if he's limited in possessions and has bad down and distance trying to move the chains.

When considering a QB to play or fade I look at long yardage passes. If you get a mad bomber out there I like betting on that because he need not sustain drives. Matt Ryan comes to mind. Kirk Cousins is another who creates TDs in the air of over 25 yards.

FYI MN, KC, Den, Atl and Wash are all +2 or greater ATS since 2016 wk1

**2daBank** · 09-13-17, 11:29 AM

Cousins problem is he lost his deep threat and he terrible in red zone.

**jjgold** · 09-13-17, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by MinnesotaFats

The QB can't do it all if he's limited in possessions and has bad down and distance trying to move the chains.

When considering a QB to play or fade I look at long yardage passes. If you get a mad bomber out there I like betting on that because he need not sustain drives. Matt Ryan comes to mind. Kirk Cousins is another who creates TDs in the air of over 25 yards.

FYI MN, KC, Den, Atl and Wash are all +2 or greater ATS since 2016 wk1

Fatty not a bad write up

I just see how QB basically is one that wins and loses games

**2daBank** · 09-13-17, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Fatty not a bad write up

I just see how QB basically is one that wins and loses games

That what you see if you don't look any deeper. Fact is most qb's only winning games when they have protection and guys making plays for them.

**Ryermkd** · 09-13-17, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

jjgold is a clown

here to amuse us

For real lol...

I could cap QBs and the overall offense as a child...
Coaching/Management is the next big step. Ole Sammy said it best Dline/Oline and D in general is the key.

**Chi_archie** · 09-13-17, 12:58 PM

Long snapper and gunner metrics are the new thing

**Mike2332** · 09-13-17, 01:22 PM

Obviously there is more to the game than the QB BUT it is the single most important position there is........If you are going to focus in on one thing it better be QB..........The QB affects every part of the game.

**2daBank** · 09-13-17, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by Mike2332

Obviously there is more to the game than the QB BUT it is the single most important position there is........If you are going to focus in on one thing it better be QB..........The QB affects every part of the game.

Unless the qb is named Rodgers there are lots of factors that determine whether or not said qb is successful.

**Ryermkd** · 09-13-17, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by Mike2332

Obviously there is more to the game than the QB BUT it is the single most important position there is........If you are going to focus in on one thing it better be QB..........The QB affects every part of the game.

This is why you're new to the forum, it'll get better over the years...

I've actually learned a lot from some guys here; I don't even post much, hoping to change that slowly.

**WWCD** · 09-13-17, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Mike2332

Obviously there is more to the game than the QB BUT it is the single most important position there is........If you are going to focus in on one thing it better be QB..........The QB affects every part of the game.

Bradford is better than Brees.

**KVB** · 09-13-17, 07:27 PM

As simple as it sounds, when it comes to handicapping, there is nothing more important than predicting points scored and points allowed.

Unless you're dealing with high vig props, the sides, moneylines and Totals all focus on points.

Start your handicapping there, then build upon it. The QB is only part of the equation.

**Slipknot26** · 09-13-17, 07:48 PM

It's matchup vs. matchupFinesse against power
Travel across country , starting time
You have to look at it overall
If we're as easy as QB vs. QB
Pitcher vs. pitcher
Vegas wouldnt be Vegas , it would be Detroit
It does matter but if the OL can't block the DL or has issues vs. a specific scheme , it doesn't matter how good he is .

**House** · 09-13-17, 08:33 PM

Alex Smith was 12 and 4 last year ...He averaged less then 1 TD and 197 yards a game < That sucks

.... Huh interesting that he got outplayed by most QB's in those games yet the Chiefs won ..... Talk to me JJ