Kings won't even give up their first round draft pick for Irving

[jjgold]

I knew it to Fox would've been the steal of the century if he went to Cleveland

Sacramento laughed at Cleveland

Not going to be a lot of interest in Irving meaning nobody is giving up a great player for him

This has to be the silliest trade the I've ever seen as Irving is a ball hog and is a big part of Cleveland offense he doesn't play second fiddle to James

Has to be more of a personality conflict

[Mackballs]

Fox a stud. Will be best nba player in this draft

[IBetYou]

Irving seems like one of the good guys of the NBA. Probably offended by something James did.

[jjgold]

No way it is about being bigger part of offense

The loser averaged 25 a game

[rm18]

Fox has legs like a chicken and cannot shoot he will be pretty good but I would probably ship him for Irving.

[shadymcgrady]

Irving and love have NEVER had anything close to a winning season when they were the team centerpiece. I think kyrie had a 19 win season as the primary for cavs 1 yr

[jjgold]

Irving and love have NEVER had anything close to a winning season when they were the team centerpiece. I think kyrie had a 19 win season as the primary for cavs 1 yr

He wants to score 30 and win 20 games a year

Team ball only wins in nba

[lakerboy]

He wants to score 30 and win 20 games a year

Team ball only wins in nba

Send him to OKC. Imagine him and Westbrook beating each other up on the court

[jjgold]

[The Kraken]

Irving is a sure thing, one of the elite players in the NBA.

Although fox has potential to reach his level, there are no guarantees. And even if he does, he's doesn't have the size to be much better than Kyrie is now.

It's silly of the Kings to not do the trade unless there is more to the story

[jjgold]

Like I said you can't win with elite guards like Irving that play no defense and do not pass

He's a losing player unless with an all time great like James

[milwaukee mike]

Like I said you can't win with elite guards like Irving that play no defense and do not pass

He's a losing player unless with an all time great like James

you can win with guys like that if they shoot 3's well like curry/thompson

[JaimeMiro]

you can win with guys like that if they shoot 3's well like curry/thompson

Thompson and Curry actually play defense... Kyrie pretends. Not as hard as James Harden though

[shadymcgrady]

Kyrie is a makeshift, rag tag player. A very skilled but scrap baller due to his size

Many elite stars today do not demonstrate good defense but succeed in wins and even championships in done respects.

The difference is the ability or ATHLETIC capability of said superstar. Lebron for example was a nonexistent defender while he was ascending in his career but got a pass bc of his athleticism and his potential to pkay good defense rather than being unable to perform.

It is assumed that at some point stars with such capability will improve their defense in order to win and while it isn't a complete 180 degree change in mindset, it has happened when stars want to try and win.

Kyrie simply does not have the athletic capability to turn that switch even if he wanted to one day. He's a street ball version of Mike conley

[milwaukee mike]

Thompson and Curry actually play defense... Kyrie pretends. Not as hard as James Harden though

he doesn't pinch people all the time like harden either

[IBetYou]

Irving is a sure thing, one of the elite players in the NBA.

Although fox has potential to reach his level, there are no guarantees. And even if he does, he's doesn't have the size to be much better than Kyrie is now.

It's silly of the Kings to not do the trade unless there is more to the story

Stupid idea. Fox is their franchise player and will be for years to come. Irving would be out of town in 3 years.

[The Kraken]

Stupid idea. Fox is their franchise player and will be for years to come. Irving would be out of town in 3 years.

Fox may be out in a few years as well. Why do you think Fox is going to stay after his contract but Kyrie wouldn't? By the time Fox is on Kyries level his contract will be up and he'll be out too

If you're serious about winning, go with the sure thing. 3 years a long time to build around and try to convince Kyrie to stay.

[IBetYou]

Because Fox is on a rookie contract. Look at other kids in the NBA; there's a reason they don't switch teams after their 4 year deal is up. They get a lot more if they accept the extension before the 4th year. Fox will be in Sacramento long enough for them to build around him.

[lakerboy]

Because Fox is on a rookie contract. Look at other kids in the NBA; there's a reason they don't switch teams after their 4 year deal is up. They get a lot more if they accept the extension before the 4th year. Fox will be in Sacramento long enough for them to build around him.

The rest of his life? It's Sacramento

[beavis13]

Not his whole life but he will sign the first extention with them. Would be leaving a ton of money on the table if not. Almost assuredly more years then they could hope to have Kyrie for.

[IBetYou]

Randidive needs to sack d'alessandro/ divac and then sell the team, and then they will have a chance...

[Darkside Magick]

The rest of his life? It's Sacramento

Webber never stay in SAC..he would fly in all the time from LA.

He will sign extension..They all do

Like kyrie never wanted to stay with Cavs but when they came to his house in Jersey on the first day of free agency he sign that day!

[shadymcgrady]

Randidive needs to sack d'alessandro/ divac and then sell the team, and then they will have a chance...

Randadive needs to jump off a bridge and take James dolan with him

[thomorino]

People forget how horrible Cleveland was before James came back and horrible Cleveland was when James would sit out. Kyrie Irving is nothing close to a point guard - he makes no one else better and plays no defense. He belong in New York where he can put up the stats and with Porzingis doing nothing but shooting threes because he can't post up or drive to the basket. I think his feelings were hurt that Cleveland mentioned him in trades - I think he stays.

[shadymcgrady]

People forget how horrible Cleveland was before James came back and horrible Cleveland was when James would sit out. Kyrie Irving is nothing close to a point guard - he makes no one else better and plays no defense. He belong in New York where he can put up the stats and with Porzingis doing nothing but shooting threes because he can't post up or drive to the basket. I think his feelings were hurt that Cleveland mentioned him in trades - I think he stays.

Yeah we forgot... that's why it was all brought up in posts #1-6. Stick to giving us tennis fades

[thomorino]

Yeah we forgot... that's why it was all brought up in posts #1-6. Stick to giving us tennis fades

I didn't lose a dime with the tennis plays I posted and am up very nicely this year with my baseball plays - most of which are documented in the contest. Your comment that Kyrie lacks athletic ability is laughable - Kyrie's problem is he thinks like a shooting guard - he doesn't see the court like a point guard and can't be a centerpiece of a team - he's as athletic as anyone in the game. Keep trolling.

[milwaukee mike]

Stupid idea. Fox is their franchise player and will be for years to come. Irving would be out of town in 3 years.

i guess it's a done deal then... since no #5 picks have ever failed to be the most awesome thing ever

oh wait
sacramento 2012 #5 pick thomas robinson

2013 #5 alex len
2014 #5 dante exum
2015 #5 mario hezonja
2016 #5 kris dunn

so please forgive some of us if we don't write fox in as the franchise player for years to come JUST YET

[shadymcgrady]

I didn't lose a dime with the tennis plays I posted and am up very nicely this year with my baseball plays - most of which are documented in the contest. Your comment that Kyrie lacks athletic ability is laughable - Kyrie's problem is he thinks like a shooting guard - he doesn't see the court like a point guard and can't be a centerpiece of a team - he's as athletic as anyone in the game. Keep trolling.

He lacks size and strength compared to the elite players at his position. Westbrook, wall, lillard, etc. The only body type that is comparable to his is curry but curry is an exception. Kyrie is a streaky shooter at best in comparison to curry.

I'm sure u always win pal, I wouldn't be trolling if we met up in real life, puzzy

[thomorino]

i guess it's a done deal then... since no #5 picks have ever failed to be the most awesome thing ever

oh wait
sacramento 2012 #5 pick thomas robinson

2013 #5 alex len
2014 #5 dante exum
2015 #5 mario hezonja
2016 #5 kris dunn

so please forgive some of us if we don't write fox in as the franchise player for years to come JUST YET

Lol - this draft was far deeper than 2013-2016 drafts - in fact Fox would have been the #1 or #2 pick in those drafts. Len wasn't very good in college - Maryland was horrible, exum was 18 and never played in college, hezonja never played in college, and dunn was good but not great in college. Comparing Fox to those players is laughable. Fox dropped in this draft because it was the deepest draft in at least 5 years he's not a great perimeter shooter - no one questions his athleticism - he destroyed Ball all game long sweet 16.

[thomorino]

He lacks size and strength compared to the elite players at his position. Westbrook, wall, lillard, etc. The only body type that is comparable to his is curry but curry is an exception. Kyrie is a streaky shooter at best in comparison to curry.

I'm sure u always win pal, I wouldn't be trolling if we met up in real life, puzzy

Your a fool - let's first start with your comment that he lacks size and strength - do you even watch the NBA. What kind of idiot thinks Lillard is much stronger than Irving - have you ever seen these guys even play.

Irving is bigger and stronger than Lillard who is 195. He's about the same size as Wall -1 inch and 10 pound lighter. He's built much bigger and stronger than Curry.

I don't always win never said I do - I do win more than I lose and I've posted nearly 200 baseball picks and am up double digits -what have you posted.

[jtoler]

best draft since bron's draft

[shadymcgrady]

Your a fool - let's first start with your comment that he lacks size and strength - do you even watch the NBA. What kind of idiot thinks Lillard is much stronger than Irving - have you ever seen these guys even play.

Irving is bigger and stronger than Lillard who is 195. He's about the same size as Wall -1 inch and 10 pound lighter. He's built much bigger and stronger than Curry.

I don't always win never said I do - I do win more than I lose and I've posted nearly 200 baseball picks and am up double digits -what have you posted.

My youngest brother actually played aginst Irving in a summer league game back in the day. I saw him then but it was before even his duke days. He was tiny, the best player on the court 10 times over but tiny.

Point is that his size makes him unathletic in terms of nba standards.

I don't post my picks, they would be great fade material especially with all the chasing I do but I will most definitely beat ur puzzy a$$ anyday

[thomorino]

Yeah little guy - people grow in high school and college. To say that Irving who is 6-3 205 pounds and a great athlete, bigger than Lillard, Paul,Curry, and other elite point guards, lacks size and athleticism, makes you look like a fool. He's bigger than Isiah Thomas, Lillard, Curry, and Chris Paul - your comment makes no sense. Kyrie Irving is great athlete - he's had 2 issues his whole career - injuries and problems with the fact he doesn't make anyone else better. Size and athelticism have never been an issue for him - you need to watch more basketball. Feel free to post your plays.

[milwaukee mike]

Lol - this draft was far deeper than 2013-2016 drafts - in fact Fox would have been the #1 or #2 pick in those drafts. Len wasn't very good in college - Maryland was horrible, exum was 18 and never played in college, hezonja never played in college, and dunn was good but not great in college. Comparing Fox to those players is laughable. Fox dropped in this draft because it was the deepest draft in at least 5 years he's not a great perimeter shooter - no one questions his athleticism - he destroyed Ball all game long sweet 16.

even so, maybe we should let at least part of his nba career play out before saying how much better he is than all of those guys

and i love the euphemism of "not a great perimeter shooter"... he shot less than 25% from 3 point range, kyrie shot 46% from college 3

[shadymcgrady]

Yeah little guy - people grow in high school and college. To say that Irving who is 6-3 205 pounds and a great athlete, bigger than Lillard, Paul,Curry, and other elite point guards, lacks size and athleticism, makes you look like a fool. He's bigger than Isiah Thomas, Lillard, Curry, and Chris Paul - your comment makes no sense. Kyrie Irving is great athlete - he's had 2 issues his whole career - injuries and problems with the fact he doesn't make anyone else better. Size and athelticism have never been an issue for him - you need to watch more basketball. Feel free to post your plays.

U wouldn't be so cavalier in ur talk if we met in person puzzy, stay coward behind the keyboard