The 76ers and Celtics pull off big NBA trade...

**kidcudi92** · 06-17-17, 09:53 PM

76ers Super Team

**jjgold** · 06-17-17, 10:02 PM

Means nothing
Phila 25-57 next year

**Mackballs** · 06-17-17, 10:05 PM

27-55

**eidolon** · 06-17-17, 10:11 PM

Who will the Lakers draft?

**The Giant** · 06-17-17, 10:16 PM

Lonzo Ball.

**lakerboy** · 06-17-17, 10:19 PM

Will the sixers make the playoffs next year?

**lakerboy** · 06-17-17, 10:19 PM

This fultz kid isn't good is he?

**Mackballs** · 06-17-17, 10:24 PM

Way too much hype in Boston over fultz. Fans fell victim of the allure of the number one pick and know nothing about the player. They just assume he's the franchise savior because draft boards say he is. He may be great but this draft does not have a clear cut number one player. The top 5 are all equal and have similar potential. Take the player you really want and get whatever else you can on top of it.

**The Giant** · 06-17-17, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Will the sixers make the playoffs next year?

Probably not. It's a man's league. It'll take these kids a while.

Originally posted by lakerboy

This fultz kid isn't good is he?

No clue. It seems like the NBA draft has turned into a crapshoot. There hasn't been a star come into the league in a while.

**Crusherrr** · 06-17-17, 10:58 PM

I watched the highlight film of this dude play and it was all in games his team was losing. Clip started off with them down 15 points to Yale this season. They finished 2-16 in conference, 9-22 overall and lost their last 13 games. When he played Lonzo and UCLA they lost by 32 points and 41 points. If you can't lead your college team to a positive record I'm not sure how you can be drafted number one overall and be so highly coveted. I'd take Fox, Ball, Jackson, and Tatum over him for sure.

**The Giant** · 06-17-17, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by Crusherrr

I watched the highlight film of this dude play and it was all in games his team was losing. Clip started off with them down 15 points to Yale this season. They finished 2-16 in conference, 9-22 overall and lost their last 13 games. When he played Lonzo and UCLA they lost by 32 points and 41 points. If you can't lead your college team to a positive record I'm not sure how you can be drafted number one overall and be so highly coveted. I'd take Fox, Ball, Jackson, and Tatum over him for sure.

Keep in mind Ben Simmons wasn't a winner either in college.

The 76ers are all about the upside, they don't care about winning.

**mdunlap3** · 06-17-17, 11:11 PM

Sixers stacked with a ton of young studs...Simmons,Embiid,Fultz. Will be interesting to see how the personalities mesh.

**The Kraken** · 06-17-17, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by Mackballs

Way too much hype in Boston over fultz. Fans fell victim of the allure of the number one pick and know nothing about the player. They just assume he's the franchise savior because draft boards say he is. He may be great but this draft does not have a clear cut number one player. The top 5 are all equal and have similar potential. Take the player you really want and get whatever else you can on top of it.

True, number one draft picks never turn out to be franchise players or anything. Has anyone good ever gone number one that changed the fortune of a team?

**Fire in da hole** · 06-17-17, 11:28 PM

Would be sweet irony if the lakers pass on ball, then he hopes the team he refused to work out for takes him third..

would love over to see ball drop

**shadymcgrady** · 06-17-17, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

True, number one draft picks never turn out to be franchise players or anything. Has anyone good ever gone number one that changed the fortune of a team?

Lebron james, dwight howard, john wall, Karl anthony towns to name a few

**Mase of Base** · 06-17-17, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

True, number one draft picks never turn out to be franchise players or anything. Has anyone good ever gone number one that changed the fortune of a team?

Iverson. Shaq and LeBron at least made their teams good for awhile but bailed.

*I'll throw in Rose as well and be ridiculed he was something before his knees gave out, unlucky guy.

**The Giant** · 06-17-17, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by shadymcgrady

Lebron james, dwight howard, john wall, Karl anthony towns to name a few

Lebron James the last #1 overall pick to lead a team to the NBA championship since Tim Duncan.

**VeggieDog** · 06-17-17, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

True, number one draft picks never turn out to be franchise players or anything. Has anyone good ever gone number one that changed the fortune of a team?

Don't forget about future hall-of-famer Greg Oden taken first by Portland in 2007. Portland passed up some dude named Keven Durant.

**krk1030** · 06-17-17, 11:55 PM

Sixers needed a PG so if he is your guy its a great deal. Personally would have just taken Fox at 3, or maybe even move back and get him a couple picks later.

For the Celtics this is a total head scratcher....stockpiling assets is great, but eventually you need to turn it into a team on the floor. I assume this means they are keeping Thomas long term and will take Jackson with the pick.

If they get heyward you will then have two top picks sitting on the bench behind him.....

**firekillex** · 06-18-17, 02:49 AM

celtics will trade these picks for jimmy butler , or use this years pick get hayward as a free agent and use the next years 1st rd as an asset.... plus they have brooklyns first round next year which will be top 5 probably... smfh brooklyn with the worst move in nba history giving 4 first round picks for an old paul pierce and KG really gave boston life

76ers great young core , people saying 25 wins next year ya its a rebuilding team lol... fultz, simmons, saric and embiid is an amazing core but injury problems could plague them

**Goat Milk** · 06-18-17, 04:40 AM

Not sure but Simmons and Embiid are sick. Never seen Fulz play. Embiid is already one of the best big men in basketball, probably the third best pure center after Demarcus and Marc Gasol.

Simmons will be a great all around player even in his first year. I wouldn't be surprised if Philly made the playoffs if those guys stay healthy, which is a big if.

**jjgold** · 06-18-17, 04:58 AM

Originally posted by The Giant

Keep in mind Ben Simmons wasn't a winner either in college.

The 76ers are all about the upside, they don't care about winning.

Yeh but they never win

NBA kids develop fast and Phila players are not

**Otters27** · 06-18-17, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by The Kraken

True, number one draft picks never turn out to be franchise players or anything. Has anyone good ever gone number one that changed the fortune of a team?

Shaq

**Goat Milk** · 06-18-17, 06:06 AM

Shaq Duncan Kareem Magic Bron AI Hakeem

Lots of number 1s legendary

Most number 1s are effective nba players at least. very few busts

**manny24** · 06-18-17, 06:52 AM

Fulz nice player couldn't get his team a sniff of the post-season

Boston not looking for game changers they are looking for a winners

**Cuse0323** · 06-18-17, 07:06 AM

Celtics do it again. Great move. They will be the leaders of the East soon enough. I don't like them, but great move. Let Fultz, and Ball off the board then get picks too. Robbery. Fox is the best PG. Tatum is the best player. In my opinion, and I hate Duke, and Kentucky. Josh Jackson, I'm not sure on. Looks like the Celtics are down to him, or Tatum. Tatum is a special talent, and should be numero uno. Wish he would fall to the Magic, or Knicks. Hope Fox falls too. Monk is overrated, but Fox is legit.

**Mackballs** · 06-18-17, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by The Kraken

True, number one draft picks never turn out to be franchise players or anything. Has anyone good ever gone number one that changed the fortune of a team?

So you're really gonna compare this kid to coming out as the "consensus" number one pick to guys like LeBron and AD who were the number one pick in their draft year when they're sophomores in high school? C'mon, he's been rated the best of the top tier but 9-22 at Washington shouldn't be ignored.
2-16 in conference with one of the wins coming against D3 Oregon St.

**klemopixx** · 06-18-17, 07:16 AM

The Celtics will get #3 this year and either the Lakers 2018 1st rd pick if it falls between 2 and 5. If it falls outside of that then the Sixers keep the Lakers pick and give up the 2019 1st rd pick from Sacramento.

So basically it's an extra lottery pick to move up two spots to get the #1 pick. Philly needs a franchise PG so I guess it makes sense, I'm just not sold on the guy. He's fast, has nice size, has a great shot and can play defense well, he just doesn't come from a winning program which is a huge red flag for me. I can see why they made the move though.

**jjgold** · 06-18-17, 07:25 AM

All we do is talk about Phil and they get worse every year

It is a terrible Organization

Players always hurt

**thetrinity** · 06-18-17, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by Cuse0323

Celtics do it again. Great move. They will be the leaders of the East soon enough. I don't like them, but great move. Let Fultz, and Ball off the board then get picks too. Robbery. Fox is the best PG. Tatum is the best player. In my opinion, and I hate Duke, and Kentucky. Josh Jackson, I'm not sure on. Looks like the Celtics are down to him, or Tatum. Tatum is a special talent, and should be numero uno. Wish he would fall to the Magic, or Knicks. Hope Fox falls too. Monk is overrated, but Fox is legit.

This is highway robbery. I figured Boston would deal this pick to some stupid ass team. Fultz is far from a sure thing and people seem to think he's the automatic number 1. Also, there wasn't really any room for him in Boston. Then they get another high pick next year from the Lakers (good chance) or 2 years from now from the Kings team that sucks.

**thetrinity** · 06-18-17, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by klemopixx

The Celtics will get #3 this year and either the Lakers 2018 1st rd pick if it falls between 2 and 5. If it falls outside of that then the Sixers keep the Lakers pick and give up the 2019 1st rd pick from Sacramento.

So basically it's an extra lottery pick to move up two spots to get the #1 pick. Philly needs a franchise PG so I guess it makes sense, I'm just not sold on the guy. He's fast, has nice size, has a great shot and can play defense well, he just doesn't come from a winning program which is a huge red flag for me. I can see why they made the move though.

I agree with this too. I like the Sixers core. I feel like they will at least be close to the playoffs next year, but I think it's too high a price to pay for fultz. Kinda wish they were just patient.

**thetrinity** · 06-18-17, 08:09 AM

I'd love to watch these "workouts" these guys do. Supposedly, Philly was blown away by him and that's why they did this deal. They r basically saying he's so much better than Ball, Fox, etc. by doing this move

**lakerboy** · 06-18-17, 08:51 AM

Fultz has maturity. Sixers like that part the most.

**t-wizzle** · 06-18-17, 09:24 AM

Trust the process