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    Many Vegas Books Grading Future Bets A Loss on Johnson

    Others, including MGM, Boyd Gaming, Caesars, CG Tech and William Hill (the largest Nevada sportsbook operator in terms of number of sportsbooks and market share), told bettors that Johnson's lack of a single stroke in the year's first major championship still results in a lost futures bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Others, including MGM, Boyd Gaming, Caesars, CG Tech and William Hill (the largest Nevada sportsbook operator in terms of number of sportsbooks and market share), told bettors that Johnson's lack of a single stroke in the year's first major championship still results in a lost futures bet.
    That is standard in most Futures markets. All bets have action, no refunds.

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    What if you bet Dustin Johnson not to win?

    No action prolly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otters27 View Post
    What if you bet Dustin Johnson not to win?

    No action prolly
    A very interesting question. One that should be posed I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otters27 View Post
    What if you bet Dustin Johnson not to win?

    No action prolly
    That is different, those are "vs. field" bets which are refunded even if you bet on Johnson vs. field. The bets that stand and have action no matter what are the straight futures.

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    Thats kind of rough. Gives the book the edge there. Why they do it that way lt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otters27 View Post
    What if you bet Dustin Johnson not to win?

    No action prolly
    I got screwed, they voided my bet for DJ to not make the cut (+650 odds).

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    buried

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM_Toretto View Post
    I got screwed, they voided my bet for DJ to not make the cut (+650 odds).
    That is not getting screwed, just about any non-future bet involving Johnson is a refund. The topic in thread title is strictly futures.

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    Some books gave refunds

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    That is not getting screwed, just about any non-future bet involving Johnson is a refund. The topic in thread title is strictly futures.
    Well I bet a 3-way bet, Bubba over DJ & Walker and that one held up. Interesting how they pick n choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM_Toretto View Post
    Well I bet a 3-way bet, Bubba over DJ & Walker and that one held up. Interesting how they pick n choose.
    I would think that would be refunded too. If it for whole tourney or first round only?

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    Interesting how Vegas books are split.

    To me, he didn't take a stroke so he wasn't in the tournament
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    You can make Masters futures bets in January...you can get long odds on guys that won't qualify for The Masters. As LT said, futures bets are action. Tournament matchups and other bets have different rules. Dead heat rules, etc. Always do your research before making a wager.

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    Cash grab

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    If you lose, play stands
    If you win, refund

    They know what they are doing
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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyb25 View Post
    If you lose, play stands
    If you win, refund

    They know what they are doing
    Not true at all. All bets on futures stand. All other bets involving Johnson should be refunds. I am curious to see what happens (happened?) to DOM's 3-way bet.

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    thats awful.unfair. on 5dimes u usually get the money back if the player doesent play

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    johnson was in on the fix

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler23 View Post
    thats awful.unfair. on 5dimes u usually get the money back if the player doesent play
    Not on futures unless specifically stated. The default is all plays stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Not true at all. All bets on futures stand. All other bets involving Johnson should be refunds. I am curious to see what happens (happened?) to DOM's 3-way bet.
    I thought it was funny too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Not true at all. All bets on futures stand. All other bets involving Johnson should be refunds. I am curious to see what happens (happened?) to DOM's 3-way bet.
    It was for 1st round only, and it was graded void / cancelled. 😩

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM_Toretto View Post
    It was for 1st round only, and it was graded void / cancelled. ��
    Ah, OK so no issues.

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