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  • Ez Money 77
    SBR MVP
    • 11-23-11
    • 2585

    #1
    Advice for trying to bet in game bets to middle
    What up fellas been a minute since I've been on the site. Hope all is well. Anyways I want to get some feedback on when do you feel it's a good time to try to middle a game u bet ? I'm sure most of you know what I mean but in case some don't I'll give an example. I've been doing a lot of these recently but what to get some advice of maybe when is best.

    Tonight I bet
    Cleveland +1.5

    Then end of the first quarter I bet
    Boston +4.5

    So I basically have a 5 point middle where I'll win both sides of this bet. Worse case I lose the juice only one one bet.

    So when is it best to try to middle in your opinion. 5 points in the first half of an NBA game seems like a great middle to me.
  • gauchojake
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 09-17-10
    • 34103

    #2
    Almost every game I tale a live middle on is a blowout at the end.
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    • Chi_archie
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-22-08
      • 63165

      #3
      the pros KNOW

      its 6.5 point middle if its under 18 mins gone by or less in a 48 min game

      the standard deviation and regression analysis would show you that you went from a 77.86% chance of winning bet A

      to a 93.454 chance of only winning 1 bet and losing $ on the juice and just a 6.546% chance of winning both, or actually winning money on this game

      is the bigger payout worth it?
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      • Ez Money 77
        SBR MVP
        • 11-23-11
        • 2585

        #4
        Wow only a 6.5% chance of hitting that middle ? That seems awfully low. Though I'm not the pro. Thanks for that info Archie.
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        • Ez Money 77
          SBR MVP
          • 11-23-11
          • 2585

          #5
          Well didn't hit the middle but glad I made the bet now.
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          • BuckyOne
            SBR MVP
            • 01-02-15
            • 2728

            #6
            I will say that I don't think you can beat up too bad doing this. The places with the 20 cents juice kill us on these plays. Get in and out a couple more times to improve your chances?
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            • INVEGA MAN
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-30-08
              • 6791

              #7
              You have to bet big money to make money on a middle
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              • Sam Odom
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-30-05
                • 58063

                #8
                Originally posted by INVEGA MAN

                You have to bet big money to make money on a middle

                they hit few and far between

                can lose a lot of $$$ waiting

                taking scalps is much better approach even for a few 'cents' each
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388189

                  #9
                  Middles a losing prop

                  Odds stacked against you

                  Even scalping game got squashed

                  Lines all basically the same
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                  • Sam Odom
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-30-05
                    • 58063

                    #10
                    JJ

                    you are too fukking negative

                    need to take a vacation
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                    • BuckyOne
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-02-15
                      • 2728

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sam Odom
                      they hit few and far between

                      can lose a lot of $$$ waiting

                      taking scalps is much better approach even for a few 'cents' each
                      Good point! Value is where you find it. You have to watch a lot of games to get tuned in-really know teams. In answer to JJ. You need about ten outs and 50k on deposit to play this game well - not in a sock - not blue smoke - not seat of the pants butt scratching and nose picking. This is too hard for a lot of players.

                      Sam - you could offer free lessons to JJ and show him how to win! After seeing it he would say I am not going to work that hard to win. Will not work at it 10 hours a day - will not fork out 50 k for deposits. What have you got that is easy?

                      Some people go deer hunting for the sport and entertainment.

                      Some people are hungry and need the meat to feed their family.

                      Which one should the deer be worried about?
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388189

                        #12
                        You get banned being a scalper everywhere

                        Vegas even now limits scalpers

                        Cannot do offshore if you do not have pinnacle
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                        • jayc88
                          Restricted User
                          • 12-30-07
                          • 6785

                          #13
                          If you middle a -ev bet with a -ev bet you will lose your bankroll much faster. If you are a recreational gambler it is best to not middle at all.
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                          • Hu$tle
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-31-15
                            • 1365

                            #14
                            middle is better in o/u i thnk

                            all depends what sport!
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                            • Sam Odom
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-30-05
                              • 58063

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BuckyOne

                              Sam - you could offer free lessons to JJ and show him how to win! After seeing it he would say I am not going to work that hard to win. Will not work at it 10 hours a day - will not fork out 50 k for deposits.

                              Bucky

                              well known Advantage Gambler in Vegas , Fishhead , laid it all out for jjgold... showed jj the ends and outs

                              jj was too hard headed and/or lazy... got ran out of Las Vegas broke
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388189

                                #16
                                Vegas to many distractions

                                Escorts
                                Pimps
                                Beer
                                Hot Weather
                                Slots
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                                • BuckyOne
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-02-15
                                  • 2728

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                  Bucky

                                  well known Advantage Gambler in Vegas , Fishhead , laid it all out for jjgold... showed jj the ends and outs

                                  jj was too hard headed and/or lazy... got ran out of Las Vegas broke
                                  I have met Fishead-he convinced me he knows how to play. Alan Dinkenson can play as well. There are people that can play and it all comes down to their ability to define value and they can do it. jayc88 - you make a good point - each leg has to have value at the time you play it - not just implied value.
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                                  • BuckyOne
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-02-15
                                    • 2728

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    Vegas to many distractions

                                    Escorts
                                    Pimps
                                    Beer
                                    Hot Weather
                                    Slots
                                    Those things are not even variables or factors in identifying value in a sports bet. Those vices are in a lot of cities in America. To be a good sports bettor distractions have to be at an absolute minimum. Absolutely, positively cannot survive if easily distracted. The intensity - give a crap discipline just gets up and goes.
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