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  • ABEHONEST
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-27-09
    • 9470

    #1
    A curiosity question about this Book?
    Is there one or more members who can state they have taken the 200% roll with HRWAGER, and truthfully, matched the roll and dep, so to be eligible for a withdrawal?
    They claim their have been several to do just that.

    For instance: If you Dep. $500, you'll get a $1000 of free-play . Now, to ever get a withdrawal you will have to roll thus figure: 18 X 1500.
    That equals 27,000 you must match for any withdrawal. Anyone?
    Any member can PM me if he feels more comfortable?
  • Dollars2Donuts
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-07-13
    • 8803

    #2
    I would be interested in a bonus like that. I would clear that rollover, Lickety Split.

    Anyone know now if they are somewhat legit?
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    • Optional
      Administrator
      • 06-10-10
      • 60734

      #3
      Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts
      I would be interested in a bonus like that. I would clear that rollover, Lickety Split.

      Anyone know now if they are somewhat legit?
      Yeah they have been reliable for a small bonus book.

      Only thing to watch out for is Rollover = deposit amount + WINNINGS from the freeplay x 18 (or is it 16?), so you may prefer to just try to hedge the freeplay part out against another book and just do rollover x deposit amount.



      @Abe... I'll send you 100 points if you can finally find someone to agree you with that this deal is a rippoff in this, your 5th or 6th thread begging for anyone to agree with you.

      And this is borderline trolling now too mate. Although I suspect HRwager are actually getting new players taking the offer thanks to you promoting it so hard rather than your intention to damage them, so you can have a pass on that this time. lol
      Last edited by Optional; 02-18-17, 12:58 AM.
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      • Dollars2Donuts
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-07-13
        • 8803

        #4
        Originally posted by Optional
        Yeah they have been reliable for a small bonus book.

        Only thing to watch out for is Rollover = deposit amount + WINNINGS from the freeplay x 18 (or is it 16?), so you may prefer to just try to hedge the freeplay part out against another book and just do rollover x deposit amount.



        @Abe... I'll send you 100 points if you can finally find someone to agree you with that this deal is a rippoff in this, your 5th or 6th thread begging for anyone to agree with you.

        And this is borderline trolling now too mate. Although I suspect HRwager are actually getting new players taking the offer thanks to you promoting it so hard rather than your intention to damage them, so you can have a pass on that this time. lol
        I haven't used a lot of books with a bonus.

        If, for example, I deposited $500 and received $1000 in free play, could I immediately bet $1500 on my first wager? Then, you ether win and have approximately $3k to use or touch are bust. Using $3k properly, it should be easy to hit the rollover of $27k (or whatever it is). Would there be any issue with this?
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        • Dollars2Donuts
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-07-13
          • 8803

          #5
          Or wait....do you only get the winnings from the free play, and not the actually funds. Ie. $500 deposit, $1k free play is a winner...you would have $2000?
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          • Optional
            Administrator
            • 06-10-10
            • 60734

            #6
            Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts

            I haven't used a lot of books with a bonus.

            If, for example, I deposited $500 and received $1000 in free play, could I immediately bet $1500 on my first wager? Then, you ether win and have approximately $3k to use or touch are bust. Using $3k properly, it should be easy to hit the rollover of $27k (or whatever it is). Would there be any issue with this?
            I think they limit you to max bet = your deposit amount but have heard they vary it on request sometimes.

            If they think you are sharp $250 is a common number.

            Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts
            Or wait....do you only get the winnings from the free play, and not the actually funds. Ie. $500 deposit, $1k free play is a winner...you would have $2000?
            Yes a freeplay means you only get teh winnings credited to your account, not the bet amount.

            So $500 deposit plus a +100 winner with the freeplay would = $1500 balance
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            • Dollars2Donuts
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-07-13
              • 8803

              #7
              Originally posted by Optional
              I think they limit you to max bet = your deposit amount but have heard they vary it on request sometimes.

              If they think you are sharp $250 is a common number.



              Yes a freeplay means you only get teh winnings credited to your account, not the bet amount.

              So $500 deposit plus a +100 winner with the freeplay would = $1500 balance
              Gotcha, thanks Opti.
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              • shooterman
                SBR Sharp
                • 08-19-08
                • 443

                #8
                I played at HR Wager for a good 1.5 to 2 years before George the owner booted me. He is an honorable man and you will be paid.
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                • Sam Odom
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-30-05
                  • 58063

                  #9
                  yes , it can be done

                  have done it

                  In fact... loaded up at HRWager now

                  Agree with shooterman !
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                  • downsouth
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-13-11
                    • 11580

                    #10
                    Have completed it and similar rolls at other shops. Common rollover for bonus shops.

                    27000/500 game is 54 bets. High volume player so wouldn't take me too long.
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                    • ABEHONEST
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-27-09
                      • 9470

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      Yeah they have been reliable for a small bonus book.

                      Only thing to watch out for is Rollover = deposit amount + WINNINGS from the freeplay x 18 (or is it 16?), so you may prefer to just try to hedge the freeplay part out against another book and just do rollover x deposit amount.



                      @Abe... I'll send you 100 points if you can finally find someone to agree you with that this deal is a rippoff in this, your 5th or 6th thread begging for anyone to agree with you.

                      And this is borderline trolling now too mate. Although I suspect HRwager are actually getting new players taking the offer thanks to you promoting it so hard rather than your intention to damage them, so you can have a pass on that this time. lol
                      Why do we have sarcastic moderators such as the deserter-OPT? I mean, are they not obligated, somewhat, to listen to a member's complaint and make an honest attempt to listen intently to the "whole story, " as to why this Book, in his blunt and honest opinion, has this roll strapped with unusual obstacles that further hinder any serious attempt to fulfill this roll obligation.
                      I was going to make a serious attempt to show all hurdles a gambler must overcome, if you dare take that 200% roll.

                      OPT, here, again, jumps on the first chance he can get to defend this Book. Why does he so passionately defend this particular Book? Well, we can guess? He claims he knows the owner [or was it the AD], and they have had conversations previously. So, hmm, I suppose their might other motivations for his defense of HRW?

                      I will, now, soon, try and show, why I think this is not a fair deal from HRW. I was going to listen to members on this thread first, but with biased viewpoints from OPT, already, before the ink is even dry on this thread, I will have to do it sooner than I wanted to. But I will call HRW again, and talk first.

                      Now, this, after all, is only MY opinion that I will offer and I see no reason for negative BS from, well, especially moderators such as the one who left me in limbo--after he volunteered to help me solve any problem I had with this Book, weeks ago.

                      Well, again, OPT has spent more time bragging how well he knew the owner[?] and not one credible word toward me through the PM route for the answer he promised. Not one. And this was after that initial PM he sent way back in early January. No, he never got back with any info concerning that situation. Not one. Yet, he firmly stated he would be doing that on my behalf, and after discussing this problem I had with them.
                      As a loyal member of SBR, probably, 18 years or longer, I need some respect here, not some biased sounding MOD coming in and defending a Book such as HRW, one they have rated as a C+.

                      Okay, so much with the personal stuff that never should have been expressed in that manner, so in a day or two, I will plead my case to the members. Members only, because SBR moderators, even the two or three nice sounding ones, have only offered me the idea of a buyout possibility.
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388189

                        #12
                        HR Wager will boot you if your taking weak lines
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                        • ABEHONEST
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 06-27-09
                          • 9470

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          HR Wager will boot you if your taking weak lines
                          And what happens to your funds, afterwards?
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                          • Sam Odom
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-30-05
                            • 58063

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ABEHONEST

                            And what happens to your funds, afterwards?

                            HRW_George pays fast - that is his track record
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                            • downsouth
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-13-11
                              • 11580

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                              Why do we have sarcastic moderators such as the deserter-OPT? I mean, are they not obligated, somewhat, to listen to a member's complaint and make an honest attempt to listen intently to the "whole story, " as to why this Book, in his blunt and honest opinion, has this roll strapped with unusual obstacles that further hinder any serious attempt to fulfill this roll obligation.
                              I was going to make a serious attempt to show all hurdles a gambler must overcome, if you dare take that 200% roll.

                              OPT, here, again, jumps on the first chance he can get to defend this Book. Why does he so passionately defend this particular Book? Well, we can guess? He claims he knows the owner [or was it the AD], and they have had conversations previously. So, hmm, I suppose their might other motivations for his defense of HRW?

                              I will, now, soon, try and show, why I think this is not a fair deal from HRW. I was going to listen to members on this thread first, but with biased viewpoints from OPT, already, before the ink is even dry on this thread, I will have to do it sooner than I wanted to. But I will call HRW again, and talk first.

                              Now, this, after all, is only MY opinion that I will offer and I see no reason for negative BS from, well, especially moderators such as the one who left me in limbo--after he volunteered to help me solve any problem I had with this Book, weeks ago.

                              Well, again, OPT has spent more time bragging how well he knew the owner[?] and not one credible word toward me through the PM route for the answer he promised. Not one. And this was after that initial PM he sent way back in early January. No, he never got back with any info concerning that situation. Not one. Yet, he firmly stated he would be doing that on my behalf, and after discussing this problem I had with them.
                              As a loyal member of SBR, probably, 18 years or longer, I need some respect here, not some biased sounding MOD coming in and defending a Book such as HRW, one they have rated as a C+.

                              Okay, so much with the personal stuff that never should have been expressed in that manner, so in a day or two, I will plead my case to the members. Members only, because SBR moderators, even the two or three nice sounding ones, have only offered me the idea of a buyout possibility.
                              Translation: Nobody has agreed me yet so I will continue to start the same thread over and over. I didn't know it would be hard to complete an 18x rollover and thought the book was just handing out free money. Despite numerous people telling me otherwise I believe I am right and nothing anyone says will change my mind.


                              Just out of curiosity ABE, what do you believe is a fair resolution this issue? I'm sure your answer will not be forthcoming.
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                              • Sam Odom
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-30-05
                                • 58063

                                #16
                                Originally posted by downsouth

                                Translation: ... I didn't know it would be hard to complete an 18x rollover and thought the book was just handing out free money.




                                There are smart ways to complete a large RO... then there are not so smart way
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                                • allabout the $$$
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 04-17-10
                                  • 9837

                                  #17
                                  Abe Optional is a very good dude if he didnt help you i wonder why?

                                  maybe because as downsouth just said he doesnt agree with you and you just think your right so there is no reason to deal with someone who isnt willing to change their opinion.

                                  everything you complain about is in the terms and conditions. if you didnt read them its your fault!

                                  ive dealt with hrwager and been paid every time. dont take a bonus and you will not have any issue
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388189

                                    #18
                                    Most bonus rollovers are just not worth it especially at small books
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                                    • BetweenHerCheeks
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 12-17-15
                                      • 974

                                      #19
                                      anybody got a kock for abe to suck?
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                                      • ABEHONEST
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 06-27-09
                                        • 9470

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by BetweenHerCheeks
                                        anybody got a kock for abe to suck?
                                        No thanks, but I am sure you are bedding down with OPT.
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                                        • ABEHONEST
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-27-09
                                          • 9470

                                          #21
                                          And does anyone see where I insulted HRW on this thread?
                                          It was a question children. A question to see other HRW clients and see if they had an opinion. Seems we have way too many sarcastic gay buddies on this thread. They just luv to frog in and avoid the question with a meaningful answer.
                                          Also, so many children on here with so little time to beat them with commonsense. Darn it.
                                          Have a good one til I get back.
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                                          • BigOrange
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 08-13-09
                                            • 6745

                                            #22
                                            Abe I've followed your threads on this subject and I've kept biting my tongue and stayed quiet in them but I just can't take it anymore.

                                            The rollover requirement imposed by HR Wager for this type of bonus is very standard in the industry. It is so standard in fact that the only sportsbooks that have offered large bonuses like this with a smaller rollover have all dissolved either because of their stupidity and they thought they could overcome the bonus or they were offering the bonuses just to get deposits and run off with the money with no intention of paying anyone.

                                            Everyone that has taken these type of bonuses in the last 10+ years knows this. Anyone that doesn't or can't understand this is just a rube.

                                            It's not like this isn't completely standard and it's also not like this was a bait and switch. Their bonus rules are very clear and they did not change on you.

                                            Play the bonus out and either collect if you can beat them or lose and go to another book. Fukk you could have rolled over this amount on today's basketball schedule alone.

                                            The fact that you continue to blast Opti for not helping you get out of a situation that you were either too dumb to understand or, unwilling to look at the bonus rules before taking the offer is absurd.

                                            You owe SBR Mod staff and specifically Opti as well as the rest of the forum an apology for going on and on about this.
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                                            • gauchojake
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 09-17-10
                                              • 34103

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BigOrange
                                              Abe I've followed your threads on this subject and I've kept biting my tongue and stayed quiet in them but I just can't take it anymore.

                                              The rollover requirement imposed by HR Wager for this type of bonus is very standard in the industry. It is so standard in fact that the only sportsbooks that have offered large bonuses like this with a smaller rollover have all dissolved either because of their stupidity and they thought they could overcome the bonus or they were offering the bonuses just to get deposits and run off with the money with no intention of paying anyone.

                                              Everyone that has taken these type of bonuses in the last 10+ years knows this. Anyone that doesn't or can't understand this is just a rube.

                                              It's not like this isn't completely standard and it's also not like this was a bait and switch. Their bonus rules are very clear and they did not change on you.

                                              Play the bonus out and either collect if you can beat them or lose and go to another book. Fukk you could have rolled over this amount on today's basketball schedule alone.

                                              The fact that you continue to blast Opti for not helping you get out of a situation that you were either too dumb to understand or, unwilling to look at the bonus rules before taking the offer is absurd.

                                              You owe SBR Mod staff and specifically Opti as well as the rest of the forum an apology for going on and on about this.
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                                              • downsouth
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-13-11
                                                • 11580

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                                And does anyone see where I insulted HRW on this thread?
                                                It was a question children. A question to see other HRW clients and see if they had an opinion. Seems we have way too many sarcastic gay buddies on this thread. They just luv to frog in and avoid the question with a meaningful answer.
                                                Also, so many children on here with so little time to beat them with commonsense. Darn it.
                                                Have a good one til I get back.
                                                You asked if anyone has ever completed one of these rolls. I informed you that I have on multiple occasions. So by meaningful answer I have to wonder what it is you are actually looking for.

                                                Act like you have been there before. This is all pretty standard stuff.
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                                                • Sam Odom
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-30-05
                                                  • 58063

                                                  #25
                                                  ABE is looking bad...
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388189

                                                    #26
                                                    Abe forget bonuses

                                                    More than not they are -EV
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                                                    • Sam Odom
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-30-05
                                                      • 58063

                                                      #27
                                                      JJ

                                                      one can flip a coin and get 48% of the bonus into cash acct...

                                                      the old days were better tho could make multiple leg parlays with bonus
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                                                      • gauchojake
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 09-17-10
                                                        • 34103

                                                        #28
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                                                        • swordsandtequila
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 02-23-12
                                                          • 9756

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by BigOrange
                                                          Abe I've followed your threads on this subject and I've kept biting my tongue and stayed quiet in them but I just can't take it anymore.

                                                          The rollover requirement imposed by HR Wager for this type of bonus is very standard in the industry. It is so standard in fact that the only sportsbooks that have offered large bonuses like this with a smaller rollover have all dissolved either because of their stupidity and they thought they could overcome the bonus or they were offering the bonuses just to get deposits and run off with the money with no intention of paying anyone.

                                                          Everyone that has taken these type of bonuses in the last 10+ years knows this. Anyone that doesn't or can't understand this is just a rube.

                                                          It's not like this isn't completely standard and it's also not like this was a bait and switch. Their bonus rules are very clear and they did not change on you.

                                                          Play the bonus out and either collect if you can beat them or lose and go to another book. Fukk you could have rolled over this amount on today's basketball schedule alone.

                                                          The fact that you continue to blast Opti for not helping you get out of a situation that you were either too dumb to understand or, unwilling to look at the bonus rules before taking the offer is absurd.

                                                          You owe SBR Mod staff and specifically Opti as well as the rest of the forum an apology for going on and on about this.
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                                                          • ABEHONEST
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-27-09
                                                            • 9470

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Optional
                                                            Yeah they have been reliable for a small bonus book.

                                                            Only thing to watch out for is Rollover = deposit amount + WINNINGS from the freeplay x 18 (or is it 16?), so you may prefer to just try to hedge the freeplay part out against another book and just do rollover x deposit amount.



                                                            @Abe... I'll send you 100 points if you can finally find someone to agree you with that this deal is a rippoff in this, your 5th or 6th thread begging for anyone to agree with you.

                                                            And this is borderline trolling now too mate. Although I suspect HRwager are actually getting new players taking the offer thanks to you promoting it so hard rather than your intention to damage them, so you can have a pass on that this time. lol
                                                            I am waiting for my 100 points and I haven't even began to fight yet. A well known SBR celeb has already stated 2 negatives of playing there and taking the 200% roll'
                                                            Meanwhile, I will wait and see if OPT is going to welch again? If he does, that will be twice for him and a perfect 0/2 record?
                                                            And the other Bud of his, S.O., hmm, I will be back to challenge him in a few days. He's the fellow, if I recall, who started a thread all about HRW about 5 months ago. Seems he loved this Book, yet, forgot to mention why he would not play the whopping 200% bonus, or why he didn't want even try. This is where I fell right into what I call, my 200% trap. And remember, S.O., I didn't even thank you for your helping hand.

                                                            Now, it takes time to gather all the info I need to have to defend against all these groupies I see falling in line for their Bud, OPT.
                                                            But, you can bet your bottom dollar, I will be back and may have the winning hand to play. Don't hold your breath, though.
                                                            * And, for some unknown reason, OPT, seems to be at a loss for words, too, as to how I lost my outgoing PM messages and all the history between him and I for that 3 weeks or more, when he went missing? Big mystery at the time, but now, since OPT is back and still piling on the negatives concerning my opinions, those PM's suddenly came back about the same time. Hmm?
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                                                            • Samfourteen
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 02-18-12
                                                              • 239

                                                              #31
                                                              Honest Abe isnt so honest. Haha
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                                                              • gauchojake
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 09-17-10
                                                                • 34103

                                                                #32
                                                                Abe, shut it down. This will not end well for you.
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                                                                • Sam Odom
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-30-05
                                                                  • 58063

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Sam Odom

                                                                  In fact... loaded up at HRWager now

                                                                  aint going well for Sammy this time

                                                                  nothing to do with HRW

                                                                  Sammy betting on losers
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388189

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Abe you have no business gambling
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                                                                    • Buffalo Nickle
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-12-14
                                                                      • 3228

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Have never bet at HR Wager but there are many people that have bet there and are not eligible for bonuses because they beat the rollover. This can be found all over the internet.

                                                                      You can only do that once at HRWager. As you have surmised, you will probably not be one of them.
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