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  • sam9ball
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    • 07-01-09
    • 4454

    #1
    MLB commissioner: 'We are re-examining our stance on gambling'


    With former casino owner Donald Trump in the White House, there has been renewed momentum around the effort to get sports betting legalized in America.
    And on Wednesday at the Yahoo Finance All Markets Summit in New York, MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred confirmed that he is monitoring the issue and re-thinking pro baseball’s long-held stance on the issue.
    “There is this buzz out there in terms of people feeling that there may be an opportunity here for additional legalized sports betting,” Manfred said. “We are reexamining our stance on gambling. It’s a conversation that’s ongoing with the owners.”
    <figure> <figcaption> MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred at the Yahoo Finance All Markets Summit (Reuters) </figcaption></figure> When fans bet on games, Manfred continued, it “can be a form of fan engagement, it can fuel the popularity of a sport. We all understand that.”
    And make no mistake: fans are betting on games. The American Gaming Association estimates that $4.7 billion was bet on this year’s Super Bowl, an all-time high—but 97% of those bets were placed illegally.
    “Sports betting happens,” Manfred said. “Whether it’s legalized here or not, it’s happening out there. So I think the question for sports is really, ‘Are we better off in a world where we have a nice, strong, uniform, federal regulation of gambling that protects the integrity of sports, provides sports with the tools to ensure that there is integrity in the competition … Or are we better off closing our eyes to that and letting it go on as illegal gambling? And that’s a debatable point.”
    You can certainly discern what Manfred’s own opinion might be from his comments, especially the part on the benefits of federal regulation. And his peer over in basketball, NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, has argued passionately and publicly for legalizing and regulating form of sports betting. Silver, Manfred says, “has framed it the best.”
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388189

    #2
    might help

    they need to save the game
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    • Snowball
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      • 11-15-09
      • 30042

      #3
      Originally posted by jjgold
      might help

      they need to save the game
      The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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      • Sam Odom
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-30-05
        • 58063

        #4
        hope Sammy lives to see legal online sports wagering in USA

        congress just needs to figure out a way to tax it then it will fly

        vig will be stiff tho... -115 on ATS and min 20c on baseball at the bottom going up
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        • Smoke
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-09-09
          • 48111

          #5
          Eat that fiber sammy
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          • GunShard
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            • 03-05-10
            • 10026

            #6
            Trump should legalize sports betting so we get taxed to help our country's economy unlike offshore books.
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            • Snowball
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              • 11-15-09
              • 30042

              #7
              Originally posted by GunShard
              Trump should legalize sports betting so we get taxed to help our country's economy unlike offshore books.
              he can't. They won't change the law in Congress, too many conservative Republicans
              are against it, even if Trump would sign the bill.
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              • Philmill
                SBR MVP
                • 09-30-11
                • 4275

                #8
                some times its not good to get what you ask for....Legalize sports betting will not be good...IMA

                keep government out of this business
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                • VeggieDog
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-21-09
                  • 7214

                  #9
                  Practically every state has a lottery, but I can't put a few bucks down on a ball game.
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                  • lakerboy
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 04-02-09
                    • 94368

                    #10
                    So Pete Rose now gets in?
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                    • irish1
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-25-12
                      • 4837

                      #11
                      some easy credits for students, a new course called sports betting. All college athletes who are taking bowling I and II will now have another good class to take. Even the education institutions will make money on that.
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                      • Auto Donk
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-03-13
                        • 43559

                        #12
                        in somewhat related news, and in an effort to not have to start a new thread, last night trump had dinner with tillerson and sheldon adelson.....
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                        • xKMACKx
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-16-08
                          • 1274

                          #13
                          Trump won't legalize it because of Sheldon Adelson, nor would Congress be for it.
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                          • Auto Donk
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 09-03-13
                            • 43559

                            #14
                            exactly..... adelson way too inside in this administration.... will be dictating policy on online gaming
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                            • RockBottom
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                              • 12-03-08
                              • 1447

                              #15
                              Seeing how the government runs things, do you really want them to have their hands in sports gambling?
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                              • 19th Hole
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-22-09
                                • 18845

                                #16
                                Silver and Manfred breaking the ice on wagering in their respective sports?
                                Ready to grab another revenue stream.
                                They are not going to do the guy on the street any favors.

                                Baseball is my favorite sport to wager.
                                Been with my local for years and I don't see my routine changing.
                                I'm happy with "The Boys" getting their piece rather than the real crooks in D.C. and
                                MLB and NBA glomming onto sports money.

                                If you can't find a local to take your action, then
                                you're not trying.
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388189

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by xKMACKx
                                  Trump won't legalize it because of Sheldon Adelson, nor would Congress be for it.
                                  That is what I think
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                                  • ManOfValue
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-29-08
                                    • 1437

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                    So Pete Rose now gets in?
                                    Love It.. It would be great to see him given a reprieve.
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                                    • Sam Odom
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-30-05
                                      • 58063

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by xKMACKx

                                      Trump won't legalize it because of Sheldon Adelson...

                                      did he stop Obama the last 8 yrs ? If not... who did
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                                      • rkelly110
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                                        • 10-05-09
                                        • 39691

                                        #20
                                        Govt won't make any money. 97% of gamblers lose. They would have to get their income from books.
                                        Books would have to charge more juice to compensate.
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                                        • Sam Odom
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-30-05
                                          • 58063

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Sam Odom

                                          hope Sammy lives to see legal online sports wagering in USA

                                          congress just needs to figure out a way to tax it then it will fly

                                          vig will be stiff tho... -115 on ATS and min 20c on baseball at the bottom going up
                                          Originally posted by rkelly110

                                          Govt won't make any money. 97% of gamblers lose. They would have to get their income from books.
                                          Books would have to charge more juice to compensate.

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                                          • StackinGreen
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-09-10
                                            • 12140

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Philmill
                                            some times its not good to get what you ask for....Legalize sports betting will not be good...IMA

                                            keep government out of this business
                                            my response to this is that for those of us who bet, more entry into the market is a good thing

                                            Notice I'm not saying that betting is a good thing in general for society, I'm saying that given that we bet, this expanding of the market only helps us

                                            locals will not go away for LOTS of reasons, most of which are obvious

                                            But they'll have more competition, all of a sudden
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                                            • BuckyOne
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-02-15
                                              • 2728

                                              #23
                                              How would you tax it then if you did? Like a 1 % sales tax? Who would it help and who would it hurt? Tax systems are invented by people who want other people to pay taxes. Would more people go to the games? How many games would you watch if you did not have a bet or the opportunity to make one?

                                              if there is more donkey money or even monster sharp money-that would be good for players who can define value!
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                                              • SharpAngles
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 04-15-14
                                                • 9467

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                                in somewhat related news, and in an effort to not have to start a new thread, last night trump had dinner with tillerson and sheldon adelson.....
                                                They were 100% discussing Sheldons desires in Israel.

                                                So funny considering Trumps tweet during the primaries

                                                “Sheldon Adelson is looking to give big dollars to Rubio because he feels he can mold him into his perfect little puppet. I agree!”
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                                                • Auto Donk
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 09-03-13
                                                  • 43559

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by RockBottom
                                                  Seeing how the government runs things, do you really want them to have their hands in sports gambling?
                                                  if the typical red-tape and bureaucracy driven delays creep in to their handling of it, JJ might be able to last a whole month in vegas.....
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                                                  • biggie12
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-30-05
                                                    • 13784

                                                    #26
                                                    Kleinburg ontario... call me
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                                                    • slambam
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-07-10
                                                      • 1653

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BuckyOne
                                                      How would you tax it then if you did? Like a 1 % sales tax? Who would it help and who would it hurt? Tax systems are invented by people who want other people to pay taxes. Would more people go to the games? How many games would you watch if you did not have a bet or the opportunity to make one?

                                                      if there is more donkey money or even monster sharp money-that would be good for players who can define value!
                                                      Tax it the same way gambling winnings are taxed now, with a W-2G. Require bets to be placed with a players card or online. If you make over a certain amount, the casino or state sends you a W-2G form.
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                                                      • unluckysob
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                                                        • 05-21-08
                                                        • 1527

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by StackinGreen
                                                        my response to this is that for those of us who bet, more entry into the market is a good thing

                                                        Notice I'm not saying that betting is a good thing in general for society, I'm saying that given that we bet, this expanding of the market only helps us

                                                        locals will not go away for LOTS of reasons, most of which are obvious

                                                        But they'll have more competition, all of a sudden
                                                        Locals have already gone away. Might be very few. All the old locals I knew from 70 s and 80s where you called in everything are gone. Offshore put them out of business.
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                                                        • recon1
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-13-12
                                                          • 2579

                                                          #29
                                                          Wouldn't hurt the game, that's for sure.
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                                                          • 19th Hole
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 03-22-09
                                                            • 18845

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by unluckysob
                                                            Locals have already gone away. Might be very few. All the old locals I knew from 70 s and 80s where you called in everything are gone. Offshore put them out of business.
                                                            Not sure where you live but there is no problem in major markets.
                                                            The economy hurt the books more than offshore.
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                                                            • newguy
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 12-27-09
                                                              • 6100

                                                              #31
                                                              I use local as well but would love a few other options just for pricing. Like my guy but there are times he floats teaser protection lines and is obviously taking too much money on a side and I'm betting into bad lines. Or passing on games because of the lines. Would love a way to have another out somewhere. I know you can go online but that has its issues too.
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                                                              • StackinGreen
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-09-10
                                                                • 12140

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by 19th Hole
                                                                Not sure where you live but there is no problem in major markets.
                                                                The economy hurt the books more than offshore.
                                                                I've always wondered why it's been sorta difficult (more than expected) to find locals... I use a guy out of town, and I'm in a major American city

                                                                Still, you gotta think a lot of guys running PPH sites are out there... I guess I should just check sports bars more often
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                                                                • davisca86
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 03-12-15
                                                                  • 73

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Players will lose out just like the books. Players could be taxed on winnings. Books could be taxed on winnings. In the end books will adjust lines to reflect this. Not a win for the players in my opinion.
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                                                                  • stevenash
                                                                    Moderator
                                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                                    • 65229

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Snowball
                                                                    The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
                                                                    Then what's the New Jersey Turnpike paved with?
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                                                                    • stevenash
                                                                      Moderator
                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65229

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                      might help

                                                                      they need to save the game
                                                                      The game is not in danger.
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