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    Brady mvp by far...read

    27 tds and only 2 ints...that's better then great

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    From paddypower today

    +180 Matt Ryan
    +180 Aaron Rodgers
    +275 Tom Brady

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    matt ryan def

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    Brady.. Not a Pats fan but no argument here.
    With his walking wounded, next-man-up receiver corp it's amazing.

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    I'm amazed that nobody mentions David Johnson. RBs don't do anything near what they used to in the NFL and the guy had an unreal year. I don't care if the Cards didn't make the playoffs. Over 1200 rush yards and nearly 900 receiving, plus 20 TDs? There are more than a dozen QBs in the league don't have 20 TDs. The guy does everything. Not saying he should absolutely win it, but there's no reason he shouldn't be in the conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slambam View Post
    I'm amazed that nobody mentions David Johnson. RBs don't do anything near what they used to in the NFL and the guy had an unreal year. I don't care if the Cards didn't make the playoffs. Over 1200 rush yards and nearly 900 receiving, plus 20 TDs? There are more than a dozen QBs in the league don't have 20 TDs. The guy does everything. Not saying he should absolutely win it, but there's no reason he shouldn't be in the conversation.
    Yeah, this was a sick year for RBs, with him and Zeke and a few others!

    I'm biased, but I too am a Brady guy. 28 TDs vs. 2 picks?! Goes 11-1 at the helm again? Shame about the four missed games, probably would have been like 37 and 3. He also broke the most-wins record this year and climbed up the all-time yards list.

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    Twelve games isn't enough. He's had an amazing season and I'm a huge Brady fan, but this would be an absurd precedent to set.

    Besides, he's not the most VALUABLE player. His team was 3-1 without him, and that included starting two guys who had basically never played in a pro game before.

    Derek Carr is the most valuable player. That Raiders team is a three win team with McGloin at the helm. For that kid to take that franchise out of a rut and have them at 12-3 is amazing. You can see the way the players rally around him. They love him. When he got injured, the entire sideline lost hope. Those guys know how VALUABLE he is.

    MVP is not the best player. Brady is still a better player. Hell, he's the best player probably ever. But no one means as much to their team as Derek Carr does to the Raiders.

    If Brady goes down, do any of us really think the Pats are toast? None of us are that stupid. Belichick winning a super bowl with Jimmy at the helm is unlikely, but not outside the realm of reality. I mean, he's done it before with some kid named Brady.

    But the Raiders with McGloin or Cook at the helm? They don't have a prayer. Their season ended on the play that Carr broke his leg, and everyone who watches football knows it. That's an MVP.

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    Every qb seems to thrive in that system, had Garappolo played entire season he'd probably be in the running. Brady missed 4 games thats 25% of the season, you gotta count that against him. Ryan has higher qb rating, slightly higher ypg, higher td percentage, higher completion percentage, and has thrown for almost 1500 more yards.

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    TB12 = The GOAT, hands down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooleez21 View Post
    TB12 = The GOAT, hands down
    Terry Bradshaw? To each his own.

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    I would vote for Brady

    he lost one game right????????????

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    4 games. Brady could win it but his legacy has more to do with bill belicheat. Bringing up his Int ratio is misleading when all he throws are dink and dunk passes. Brady is what alex smith would be if he played for belicheat. Arod in green bay or Derek Carr in the bay city r more mvp worthy this yr imo

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    Philip Rivers

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    Matt Ryan the favorite now

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    Brady plays with no talent also

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    12 games it NOT enough for Brady to win MVP

    Running backs are disregarded in this league now so they are out of the conversation

    Dak is behind one of the best o-lines ever

    Ryan and Rodgers are the only true candidates for MVP. Julio Jones is ELITE and they have two very good running backs. Rodgers has had an injury stricken team all year, was damn near buried and then they RAN THE TABLE behind Rodgers who had the best 6 game streak in HISTORY. Without Ryan, Falcons go 8-8. Without Rodgers, Packers go 3-13. Rodgers wins MVP.

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    Any QB that fills a brief case up with cash like Brady has this year gets my Vote.....

    "Brady for MVP"
    Last edited by Philmill; 01-04-17 at 02:15 PM.

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    See how VALUABLE Carr is to the Raiders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyplayer33 View Post
    27 tds and only 2 ints...that's better then great
    Most Valuable Player

    Pats go 3-1 without Tom - sorry you shouldn't win MVP that right there should tell you he doesn't win

    A.Rodgers has great stats... but at one point his team was 4-6 and you don't win MVP in a season when you lose for a month straight. The rest of their division just collapsed first the Vikings then the Lions. You don't win MVP because you have your best game in week 17.

    M.Ryan was the most consistent and most valuable player to his team in 2016. Ryan never had his team at a losing record besides 0-1 after a week 1 7 point loss to Tampa. They lost back to back games once by a combined 5 points & the loss at Seattle had the refs letting blatant pass interference go without a flag to end the game.

    Oh yeah... Tom threw 2 picks in 12 games. Whoop-dee-do! He played the Browns, Rams, 49'ers and the Jets twice (Revis is washed up) That's 5 of his 12 games vs some of the worst teams of 2016.

    He tossed zero TD vs Seattle and Denver secondaries.

    Ryan is MVP or the award is defunct and should be re-named Most Popular Player

    that's my take

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Brady plays with no talent also
    don't be a clown. you don't play for the Pats unless you have talent and use it and you excel at doing something better than most

    or else you get your ass cut

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    Aaron Rodgers is the MVP!!! I cant make my point any clearer

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    NE was 3-1 without Brady. The MVP of NE actually was Blount. It doesn't diminish what Brady did though, 27/2 is amazing.

    Take Ryan away from Atl and they are probably 5-11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockBottom View Post
    NE was 3-1 without Brady. The MVP of NE actually was Blount. It doesn't diminish what Brady did though, 27/2 is amazing.

    Take Ryan away from Atl and they are probably 5-11.
    It's 28/2 actually. Just clarifying.

    It's Brady for me, but I'd have no problem with Rodgers. A bit more of a problem with Ryan, but I'll live with it. They really should have these awards include the postseason. It's always lame in sports when a guy wins a big personal award for the season after his team just got annihilated and bounced from the playoffs.

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    most valuable player = team loses when you don't play


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    mvp is a popularity contest for statboys nothing more ..... thats why 99% of them go to qb's

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    Brady is belicheat puppet

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    Silly they dont announce till right before Super Bowl.

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