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    Clemson Beats Bama +1044

    Just put $100 on this.

    Don't normally bet college and don't claim to know anything either. Just think Clemson with loss last time will learn from it and I don't see Bama having a Henry type player this year. Young inexperienced QB. Watson should be rolling. It's just one game as well so anything can really happen with these 20 yr old kids honestly, let's face it, this isn't an NFL game.

    Think Ohio State is overrated and not sure about Washington. Haven't really seen them play. Just taking a chance here.

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    You never know

    They eventually have to lose

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    Well... it's basically a parlay because Clemson has to beat the Buckeyes before they get to play Bama...

    Did you realize this?

    Seems like you have the playoff teams mixed up

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    Washington might beat alabama guy. Value in washington ml

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    It was 4 in the morning, cut the guy some slack.

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    whooops. # seems way off with paylaying 2 dogs....but this would be an epic win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM-Ganador View Post
    whooops. # seems way off with paylaying 2 dogs....but this would be an epic win.
    It would be +1020 if you could parlay the lines as of now, so the +1044 is good.

    I think dimes pays a little better than usual, so it's probably right on +1044.

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    Only team with a chance to beat Alabama is Ohio State. Bama will manhandle a finesse team like Washington and Clemson defense is garbage.

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    Alabama's defense is to good....bama will have there way with Washington and Clemson

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    Quote Originally Posted by reigle9 View Post
    It would be +1020 if you could parlay the lines as of now, so the +1044 is good.

    I think dimes pays a little better than usual, so it's probably right on +1044.
    Not sure about the nice number.

    Does it require 3 things to happen?

    Bama to beat Washington, Clemson to beat Ohio St and then Clemson to beat Bama?

    If that is the case then 1044 is a bad bad number. I'd rather bet straight MLs

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    The outcome of the games are irrelevant to what I was talking about...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderous View Post
    Not sure about the nice number.

    Does it require 3 things to happen?

    Bama to beat Washington, Clemson to beat Ohio St and then Clemson to beat Bama?

    If that is the case then 1044 is a bad bad number. I'd rather bet straight MLs

    This. Terrible bet, imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by reigle9 View Post
    The outcome of the games are irrelevant to what I was talking about...
    This.

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    I'll hold your hands and explain it to you.

    Look at the post i was replying to. I was just saying the +1044 # is better than if you could parlay the current clemson lines. That's all.

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    Obviously if Clemson or 'Bama lose their semi final game, he loses his wager. Let's face it. NO ONE would give Clemson +1044 and state that they must play each other for their to be action.

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    not a bad bet

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    Quote Originally Posted by reigle9 View Post
    I'll hold your hands and explain it to you.

    Look at the post i was replying to. I was just saying the +1044 # is better than if you could parlay the current clemson lines. That's all.
    You can't look at it that way though because if Washington somehow upsets Alabama, you are screwed. Way to maximize your profit is parlaying Clemson AND Alabama in semis to Clemson in Championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philmill View Post
    Alabama's defense is to good....bama will have there way with Washington and Clemson
    Bamas defense is very good but teams have ample time to try and counter that and if they do Bamas offense is mediocre at best so they can be beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkwind View Post
    Bamas defense is very good but teams have ample time to try and counter that and if they do Bamas offense is mediocre at best so they can be beat.
    But how? I get what you are saying with the added preparation time, but there is not much Washington can do vs. a defense that is only vulnerable to mobile quarterbacks or quarterbacks that can throw the deep ball. Browning is neither.

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    I think Clemson has better shot than Ohio st

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    But how? I get what you are saying with the added preparation time, but there is not much Washington can do vs. a defense that is only vulnerable to mobile quarterbacks or quarterbacks that can throw the deep ball. Browning is neither.
    Absolutely agree was referring more to the second round matchup

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    Guys I did the math. This line is the best value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Guys I did the math. This line is the best value.
    No, I told you what the best value was in Post #17. If this is really the play you want, you would have gotten better odds by parlaying Clemson and Alabama ML in semis and, if that wins, parlaying full return to Clemson in Championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rizespor View Post
    I think Clemson has better shot than Ohio st
    Ohio State has the far superior defense between those two, you need a physical defense like theirs to have a chance to compete with Bama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkwind View Post
    Absolutely agree was referring more to the second round matchup
    But whoever wins semis will not have much extra time to prepare for Bama, will be 9 days between games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    No, I told you what the best value was in Post #17. If this is really the play you want, you would have gotten better odds by parlaying Clemson and Alabama ML in semis and, if that wins, parlaying full return to Clemson in Championship.
    Clemson is +135
    Bama is -950

    Clemson in the finals will be about +250 against Bama

    That's +809.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Clemson is +135
    Bama is -950

    Clemson in the finals will be about +250 against Bama

    That's +809.
    Clemson is +365 vs. Bama, parlay is +1290

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Ohio State has the far superior defense between those two, you need a physical defense like theirs to have a chance to compete with Bama.
    I'm not convinced. I assume this is based on your model? Clemson didn't really give max effort in some of their games

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Clemson is +365 vs. Bama, parlay is +1290
    Yeah but that prop is not parlayable at the moment, right? Or is it? That's a hypothetical. If Clemson makes championship and beats Ohio State convincingly, I project them to be about +260ish against Bama. Don't see them being +365. I see that line being hung out right now in reference to how books project this'll play out, and how they project these teams right now.

    Having 1 month off almost changes everything. These teams are not NFL teams. Clemson is better than Ohio State. They have more NFL prospects on their team than Ohio State. That's all that matters.
    Whatever the case, I already placed the bet LT. And I think it'll win too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Yeah but that prop is not parlayable at the moment, right? Or is it? That's a hypothetical. If Clemson makes championship and beats Ohio State convincingly, I project them to be about +260ish against Bama. Don't see them being +365. I see that line being hung out right now in reference to how books project this'll play out, and how they project these teams right now.

    Having 1 month off almost changes everything. These teams are not NFL teams. Clemson is better than Ohio State. They have more NFL prospects on their team than Ohio State. That's all that matters.
    Whatever the case, I already placed the bet LT. And I think it'll win too.
    Yes it is playable and has action only if teams meet.

    NCAA Division I - College Football Playoff - Championship Game
    teams must meet in championship game for action
    Mon 1/9 28071 Washington U +3 -115 +135
    8:00PM 28072 Ohio State -3 -105 -155
    teams must meet in championship game for action
    Mon 1/9 28073 Washington U +1 -110 +100
    8:00PM 28074 Clemson -1 -110 -120
    teams must meet in championship game for action
    Mon 1/9 28075 Alabama -9½ -110 -350
    8:00PM 28076 Ohio State +9½ -110 +290
    teams must meet in championship game for action
    Mon 1/9 28077 Alabama -12 -110 -460
    8:00PM 28078 Clemson +12 -110 +365

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Yes it is playable and has action only if teams meet.

    NCAA Division I - College Football Playoff - Championship Game
    teams must meet in championship game for action
    Mon 1/9 28071 Washington U +3 -115 +135
    8:00PM 28072 Ohio State -3 -105 -155
    teams must meet in championship game for action
    Mon 1/9 28073 Washington U +1 -110 +100
    8:00PM 28074 Clemson -1 -110 -120
    teams must meet in championship game for action
    Mon 1/9 28075 Alabama -9½ -110 -350
    8:00PM 28076 Ohio State +9½ -110 +290
    teams must meet in championship game for action
    Mon 1/9 28077 Alabama -12 -110 -460
    8:00PM 28078 Clemson +12 -110 +365
    Na bro just tried it, you can't parlay Clemson to beat Bama and Clemson to beat Ohio State.

    Those odds are not gonna be the same if Clemson beats Ohio State easily.

    Telling you, these odds are legit.

    Sure taking the +365 is great right now but rather get the better odds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Na bro just tried it, you can't parlay Clemson to beat Bama and Clemson to beat Ohio State.
    Obviously not. You are supposed to parlay Clemson over Ohio State and Alabama over Washington. Then if that hits, put total return on Clemson over Alabama. Bama will stay a double-digit fave, so ML should not change much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Obviously not. You are supposed to parlay Clemson over Ohio State and Alabama over Washington. Then if that hits, put total return on Clemson over Alabama. Bama will stay a double-digit fave, so ML should not change much.
    Lol then that's not a +1290 parlay any longer bro. Your parlay is more like +1100. Watch the math below.

    You get the bama clemson parlay for +160....
    Then let's say you win $160. You put that $160 +$100 (so $260) on Clemson to win at +365 = $949. 950 + 160.... So you win around 1100 bucks total. That's IF it stays at +365, which guaranteed it won't if Clemson beats Ohio state convincingly.

    In both these scenarios, if Clemson loses in the championship, you lose $100. I think I did that math right?

    So my parlay is still better because Clemson isn't gonna be +365 in the finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Lol then that's not a +1290 parlay any longer bro. Your parlay is more like +1100. Watch the math below.

    You get the bama clemson parlay for +160....
    Then let's say you win $160. You put that $160 +$100 (so $260) on Clemson to win at +365 = $949. 950 + 160.... So you win around 1100 bucks total. That's IF it stays at +365, which guaranteed it won't if Clemson beats Ohio state convincingly.

    In both these scenarios, if Clemson loses in the championship, you lose $100. I think I did that math right?

    So my parlay is still better because Clemson isn't gonna be +365 in the finals.
    My bad. +135, -950 and +365 is +1108. Still better than your +1044.

    I was looking at Mathematical Odds instead of True Parlay Odds. http://www.sportsbookreview.com/pick...ay-calculator/

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    My bad. +135, -950 and +365 is +1108. Still better than your +1044.

    I was looking at Mathematical Odds instead of True Parlay Odds. http://www.sportsbookreview.com/pick...ay-calculator/
    You good np.

    Don't think it's better though like I said clemson not gonna be +365 in the ship. Think my odds will be slightly better, but gonna be a matter of 40 bucks prolly. Nothing major. Either bet is good. Perception is low on clemson. I just know when you take 1 month off, anything can happen. Especially with bunch of kids. You can throw every stat you have to cap this game out the window, literally.

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